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Slothrop
05-12-2009, 10:52 PM
Anyone want to recommend some? "Intelligent layman" sort of stuff, so ideally not ultra-specialized or densely theoretical, but not dumbed down either.

Particular points of interest would be:
* social / cultural / economic stuff rather than or as well as political and military
* pre-roman europe / africa / central asia
* europe after rome
* the renaissance / enlightenment / beginnings of recognizably modern society
* non-european history generally
but generally I'd be interested to hear about anything that people have to suggest or discuss.

reeltoreel
06-12-2009, 12:57 AM
I really enjoyed Sidney Mintz' Sweetness and Power:

http://www.amazon.com/Sweetness-Power-Place-Modern-History/dp/0140092331

Excellent economic anthropology...

I will try and think of more.

Kate Mossad
06-12-2009, 01:01 AM
Pursuit of the Millenium by Norman Cohn.

grizzleb
06-12-2009, 01:08 AM
Adam Hochschild - King Leopold's Ghost. About Belgian slaving in the Congo.

Gavin
06-12-2009, 03:28 PM
I really enjoyed Sidney Mintz' Sweetness and Power:

http://www.amazon.com/Sweetness-Power-Place-Modern-History/dp/0140092331


Been meaning to read this one when I get a chance (which will probably mean never!)... any other good commodity histories out there, particularly drug related? Coffee, tobacco, opiates, etc.?

grizzleb
06-12-2009, 03:33 PM
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sacred-Gifts-Profane-Pleasures-Chocolate/dp/0801444934

I've heard that this is good.

vimothy
07-12-2009, 01:46 PM
I'm reading this and it's great: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Fall-Roman-Empire-New-History/dp/0330491369/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1260193585&sr=1-2

crackerjack
07-12-2009, 02:48 PM
Tony Judt - Postwar (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Postwar-History-Europe-Since-1945/dp/0712665641/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1260197183&sr=1-1). Europe from 45-now (or about 2005ish), it is epic in scope, but always readable (even the bits on the evolution of the EU). Fair measure of cultural overview in there, not always convincing, but great on the political context of people like Almodovar, and also the way American govt used Hollywood as its propaganda arm in the post-war period.

this is good fun (http://www.amazon.com/Rubicon-Last-Years-Roman-Republic/dp/1400078970/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1260197212&sr=1-1), Roman republican history as a kinda tragicomedy, something you can read in about the time it would take to watch Spartacus

crackerjack
07-12-2009, 02:50 PM
* the renaissance / enlightenment / beginnings of recognizably modern society


yeah, yeah, i know it doesn't count. (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Q-Luther-Blissett/dp/0099439832/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1260197402&sr=1-1) but i really fucking love it.

vimothy
07-12-2009, 03:01 PM
Guns, Germs and Steel

vimothy
07-12-2009, 03:02 PM
This is a tour de force, if pretty controversial: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Farewell-Alms-Economic-History-Princeton/dp/0691141282/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1260198123&sr=1-1

Slothrop
18-07-2011, 01:55 PM
Currently reading The English Civil War - A People's History by Diane Purkiss, which is pretty good on a subject that I knew very little about. If I've got a quibble it's that she's a bit too willing to take religious belief as a motivation in itself rather than examining it as a product of other forces or a convenient cover for another motivation. The general content is very good, though, and the approach via lots of first-hand accounts and the continuing focus on what was actually happening to real people as well as the grand narrative of the war is very interesting.

Another recent read was this The Culture of Power and the Power of Culture: Old Regime Europe 1660-1789 by TCW Blanning, which was pretty excellent. Much denser and more academic that the Purkiss, but a really interesting concept: a look at the growth of the public sphere, with a focus on the way that european culture (particularly music, art, theatre and architecture) developed from a way for the monarch to demonstrate their power to a popular mood that the monarch has to keep in touch with to stay relevant.

That book about sugar looks interesting, too. I've just realized that I started a thread asking for recommendations and then ignored all of them (although I've since read Q and thought it was fairly crap). Oops...

DannyL
18-07-2011, 04:19 PM
I have really enjoyed Martin Gilbert's 3 part "History of the 20th Century". A chapter on each year, with the major political and global events delineated. Draws on a monstrous range of primary sources, including letters, contemporary newspapers and so forth. He normally has a tiny bit at the end of each chapter about inventions and natural disasters which feels like lip service but ywell, ou can't have everything. Lots of material from Africa and the Far East as well, which shakes up your normal Westocentrism a bit. I found parts of it - the revolution and it's supression in Hungary for instance - as gripping as any thriller.

Gilbert is I believe Churchill's offical biographer, and it's hard to find a bad word about him in here, but I don't know enough about Churchill's life to critque Gilbert on this point really. It's just apparent on reading the related sections that he thinks very highly of him. Still not finished the third volume - stalled on about 1965, I think, which is funny as I regard this as the point where recent history becomes really interesting. But it's great, and I will persist.

Benny B
18-07-2011, 05:22 PM
Is Giles Milton a bit too 'dumbed down' for this thread? His books are so readable, 'White Gold', 'Samurai William', 'Big chief Elizabeth'- I loved them all. What do people think of him?

Thoroughly enjoyed this too: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/0007149530/ref=pd_lpo_k2_dp_sr_1?pf_rd_p=103612307&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=0007149522&pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_r=1F3Q7WDC768NCKFT05XQ

blacktulip
18-07-2011, 05:40 PM
Adam Hochschild - King Leopold's Ghost. About Belgian slaving in the Congo.

Seconded!

ifp
20-07-2011, 10:33 PM
Mark Mazower's Salonica is probably the best non-academic (ie not too theory-laden) history book I've read. Looks at a really broad range of perspectives and historiographically is very well crafted.

On the more academic side, Close Encounters of Empire (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Close-Encounters-Empire-U-S--Latin-Interactions/dp/0822320991/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1311197184&sr=8-1) is a book I read at undergrad that has always stuck in my memory as being very good, largely because it doesn't stick to any simplistic "USA good/bad" narrative.

Also, i found Patrick Joyce's The Rule of Freedom and James Scott's Seeing Like A State good accounts of the emergence of liberalism, but they can be quite dense.

Recently read David Blackbourne's The Conquest Of Nature: Water, Landscape, and the Making of Modern Germany (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Conquest-Nature-Landscape-Making-Germany/dp/0712667261/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1311197380&sr=1-3) which looks at how notions of landscape have changed, and how the landscape itself has been changed since the industrial revolution. Get's a little repetitive, but still surprisingly interesting for a book about canals and dams (disclosure: I have a bit of a thing for canals).

ifp
20-07-2011, 10:37 PM
And while both very Eurocentric and very dense, I think Foucault writes better history than 90% of historians...

zhao
20-08-2011, 05:01 PM
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