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Kate Mossad
05-04-2010, 05:33 PM
Posted this in Nature but here might be more appropriate. Thoughts? Experiences?

nochexxx
05-04-2010, 05:47 PM
Posted this in Nature but here might be more appropriate. Thoughts? Experiences?

precise clarity aiding track selection. bobby O and many classics at FULL volume, no messing around with middling numbers.

Mr. Tea
05-04-2010, 07:37 PM
It struck me the other day that mephedrone is to ecstasy as 'nu-rave' is to the original acid house/rave culture.

I can't really back this up in any rigorous way, it just seemed to fit at the time. Something to do with how meph seems like a shallower, more nakedly hedonistic version of MDMA - like ecstasy for the MySpace generation, or summat like that.

massrock
05-04-2010, 07:46 PM
True enough. I'm sure Zizek / Mark Fisher / SR would find something to say about that. NuDrugs, all the buzz without any of the challenging social or political implications.

Then again MDMA had already become a 'shallower, more nakedly hedonistic' version of itself outside the lovedup late 80s / early 90s utopian PLUR / vaporub contexts, don't you think? The effect of the drug had actually changed due to different expectations, set and setting I guess.

massrock
05-04-2010, 07:53 PM
It's still possible to experience those effects but you could end up feeling a bit anachronistic amongst others for whom it is merely a component in a general poly-buzz soup. Although mostly I think that's a fairly healthy approach to these things, done safely of course. And it was always about group experiences so if the group ain't feeling it it's not really working. Those magical parties where everyone is on the same pills and hits that collective plateau where, yeah, you know.

massrock
05-04-2010, 07:55 PM
Most of the time anything that's like MDMA but isn't is kind of disappointing. There is something special about that one I think.

mms
05-04-2010, 08:24 PM
where can u easily get it now i'd like to try it

Sectionfive
05-04-2010, 08:32 PM
Head shops,though no for long or online

Damien
05-04-2010, 10:05 PM
urrggghhh

massrock
05-04-2010, 10:26 PM
But don't get it from where Damien got his. You'll be alright son, deep breaths. :p

Mr. Tea
06-04-2010, 12:18 AM
Then again MDMA had already become a 'shallower, more nakedly hedonistic' version of itself outside the lovedup late 80s / early 90s utopian PLUR / vaporub contexts, don't you think? The effect of the drug had actually changed due to different expectations, set and setting I guess.

True, as far as it goes - but it can still happen to anyone, especially on their first time or while still in the "honeymoon" period. I found it to be so, and I came to it a good decade or more after its supposed heyday. Depends wholly on the context, as you say, and this has more to do with what kind of mates you have and the kind of clubs and parties you like to go too than with what calendar year it is.

Can't really imagine someone having quite the same experience on the 'drone though, can you? However you look at it, there's a lot more to MDMA than just 'fun'.

grizzleb
06-04-2010, 01:06 AM
I don't think you get the same loved up buzz going by the 1 times I've taken da mephs. And that was really the only thing about pills that was worth much IMO. Heavy Empathy.

FairiesWearBoots
06-04-2010, 09:17 AM
ime, you get a buzz and connect a bit more but as BN said you end up chatting shit away from the dancefloor (defeats the aim?)

not bad but would prefer real MDMA 100%

Boming it is much better than sniffing it

also can still be bought online as even though the ban has been announced, it isnt in place yet

massrock
06-04-2010, 09:54 AM
Boming it is much better than sniffing it
Is that when you take it with a comedy French accent?

FairiesWearBoots
06-04-2010, 10:59 AM
Ha! missed ze B,

Listen very carefully, I shall zay ziz only once . . . .

benjybars
06-04-2010, 01:38 PM
Is that when you take it with a comedy French accent?

haha..

big up all my 'allo allo crew!

tom lea
06-04-2010, 01:47 PM
i didnt mind it the first time i did it, but three/four times down the line it just seems a bit shit. i'd rather not now. the nu-rave mdma comparison is on point.

has anyone done NRG-1? (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2914372/NRG-1-is-25p-a-hit-and-will-kill-many-more-than-meow.html)

FairiesWearBoots
06-04-2010, 01:56 PM
no but it sounds crap

I have found the best resource when searching for info on drugs is
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/index.php

go to the European and African drug discussion sub-forum,
there are quite a few intelligent discussions without any of the hype

Mr. Tea
06-04-2010, 01:56 PM
has anyone done NRG-1? (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2914372/NRG-1-is-25p-a-hit-and-will-kill-many-more-than-meow.html)

Oh god, that looks like an MDPV analogue - sorry, don't want to drag a Music thread into pharma geekery, but - that stuff is pretty fucked. Just far, far too strong and with too much strain on the heart for the dubious 'euphoria' you get from it. Useful in tiiiny doses as a coffee alternative if you want to sharpen up and fend off tiredness, but that's about it.

Though I've not tried this 'NRG' stuff itself.

alex
06-04-2010, 02:01 PM
Took this shit once or twice, both times palmed off by someone saying it was ‘weak MD’ (yes yes yes, I should have known)

Can assure you though, NYD was spent cleaning sick out of my ex’s bed, hallway and toilet floor.

Never ever again.

edit** although it might of had something to do with a fried slice, not too sure, either way I felt like balls after both occasions

tom lea
06-04-2010, 02:07 PM
Oh god, that looks like an MDPV analogue - sorry, don't want to drag a Music thread into pharma geekery, but - that stuff is pretty fucked. Just far, far too strong and with too much strain on the heart for the dubious 'euphoria' you get from it. Useful in tiiiny doses as a coffee alternative if you want to sharpen up and fend off tiredness, but that's about it.
yeah it looks rough, i think i'm past the point where i'm bothered about trying new drugs or really doing much of them at all. we'll see.

wonk_vitesse
06-04-2010, 10:05 PM
i didn't think much of it but i only had a few dabs. Just like a bit of speed really. Those 'NeoDove' things are alot more pleasant. Had some 'fake' legal Es last year and they were good, pretty nice and a bit trippy.

Kate Mossad
07-04-2010, 10:45 AM
precise clarity aiding track selection. bobby O and many classics at FULL volume, no messing around with middling numbers.

Interesting because 'precise clarity aiding track selection' is very similar to my experience. I've found that, unlike other substances especially stimulants, I get a very clear idea of exactly what I want to hear, almost like an order.

I've a strong feeling that people are overlooking the unique characteristics of this substance because they're disappointed that it isn't MDMA 2.0

boo
08-04-2010, 08:13 PM
there's def a correlation between this shit and the ubiquity of brostep imo.

can't believe nobody has mentioned the smell yet. nearly every club i've been in for the last 9 months has reeked of the stuff. it's very distinctive. nowt to do with music tho i guess.

nochexxx
09-04-2010, 01:29 PM
Interesting because 'precise clarity aiding track selection' is very similar to my experience. I've found that, unlike other substances especially stimulants, I get a very clear idea of exactly what I want to hear, almost like an order.

I've a strong feeling that people are overlooking the unique characteristics of this substance because they're disappointed that it isn't MDMA 2.0

i guess if you have a fair amount of clarity to begin with, then a small dose amplifies it ever so slightly, just enough weight to give you a more assertive mental balance. it never seems to over step it's mark and turn you into an instant cock like charlie does.