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nochexxx
23-04-2010, 07:18 PM
as discovered via Twitter. i've not given it much thought but did think it was an interesting perpective nonetheless.

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zhao
24-04-2010, 06:32 AM
yeah a lotta these thoughts were spinning around my head for some time. glad someone blurted them out.

DannyL
24-04-2010, 11:57 AM
That guy is too annoying to watch though. He's so self-important.

nomadthethird
24-04-2010, 05:16 PM
That guy is too annoying to watch though. He's so self-important.

yeah, maybe he has a point, but my mind kept wandering to other things during that... like how many people on earth are starving, or dying of preventable diseases, and the wars going on...

I think we'll all be ok if the aura around indie culture dies, really. I can't imagine giving that much of a shit about it.

zhao
24-04-2010, 05:39 PM
yeah, maybe he has a point, but my mind kept wandering to other things during that... like how many people on earth are starving, or dying of preventable diseases, and the wars going on...

I think we'll all be ok if the aura around indie culture dies, really. I can't imagine giving that much of a shit about it.

in a way "art" (used here in loosest possible way) is frivolous in the face of life and death problems, but in another it is the most important thing we can do - for it makes life worth living.

i'm reminded of the stories of people in war torn africa getting up and dancing immediately when someone switches on a record player...

nomadthethird
24-04-2010, 06:53 PM
in a way "art" (used here in loosest possible way) is frivolous in the face of life and death problems, but in another it is the most important thing we can do - for it makes life worth living.

i'm reminded of the stories of people in war torn africa getting up and dancing immediately when someone switches on a record player...

ya, people like to dance and whatever...

i just can't fathom getting so worked up about a sector of the entertainment industry and its workings... only if it was your livelihood could you possibly care so much...

grizzleb
25-04-2010, 01:08 AM
It's hardly the internet that creates trends and makes shit stuff popular and good stuff unappreciated. I'm pretty sure that was happening back when there was just radios and no trendy magazines to cater for whatever niche group you fit into. Music writing and journalism can be interesting, but it's not really the same as actually listening to music. I mean, I read wire magazine and laugh, it's really daft, fair enough some of it I agree with, or it's about music I like, but it's pretty frivolous. And all the records it reviews I've heard a month before. How relevant really is it? Someone spouting a few words about a gig elevated to the status of art...hmm

zhao
25-04-2010, 02:44 AM
i just can't fathom getting so worked up about a sector of the entertainment industry and its workings... only if it was your livelihood could you possibly care so much...

well yeah. chefs getting worked up about recipes, film directors getting worked up about some camera lens... it's all terribly unimportant in a way isn't it. so should they all give up what they love to become fire fighters or relief workers?

zhao
25-04-2010, 02:49 AM
ya, people like to dance and whatever...


yes. and we should never forget that life is a blessing, and should be celebrated when ever it is possible.

(in a conscious and responsible way preferably, which is different from disgusting blind indulgence)

stephenk
25-04-2010, 07:24 AM
he isn't talking about art, he's talking about his job reviewing records, and that is definitely not art. fair enough points though, there probably does need to be more hate. for example, his clothes are terrible.

but i'm generally with grizzleb...if you're interested in it, you'll sift through and find good stuff regardless. hypem is generally disgusting in its fickleness and shameless promotion but even if it's feeding its viewers the "lowest common denominators" it isn't preventing me from making my own choices as a consumer.

zhao
25-04-2010, 08:46 AM
he isn't talking about art, he's talking about his job reviewing records, and that is definitely not art.

but me and nomad are.


if you're interested in it, you'll sift through and find good stuff regardless.

really?? wow. good point there man. mind: blown.

zhao
25-04-2010, 11:58 AM
stop trolling youve got nothing to say

poor marcus, still sore from what i said about Warp Records all that time ago.

zhao
25-04-2010, 12:05 PM
??

why would i care about warp or what you've got to say about it, oand why has that little snipey aside got anything to do with you being a troll?

lol you are dummy stop fucking trolling.

don't you work for warp records?

zhao
25-04-2010, 12:08 PM
??

why would i care about warp or what you've got to say about it, and why has that got anything to do with you being a troll?


you're trolling about a topic you don't care about with mother teresa there, stop it and we might have a conversation running here about an interesting subject.

and what thing of any value have YOU added to this interesting subject other than repeat what the video said, Mr. Edit Master?

zhao
25-04-2010, 12:09 PM
hes quite interesting - the lack of music in music mags and the need for the first - you see that alot its stupid
respectable magazines esp in the state turned into salivating monkeys to get whatever they can leaks anything whatever.

quoted before he edits it.

zhao
25-04-2010, 12:10 PM
mother teresa

did make me chuckle

DannyL
25-04-2010, 12:46 PM
I don't know if he addressed this as I didn't watch it to the end.... but to me, one of the real strengths of the internet is the way that anybody can actually set themselves up as a critic (or creator for that matter) outside of mainstream media - obviously this generates loads of chaff but the good stuff will rise and generate a following. I think this leads to new discourses and discussions and ways of interacting (this place for one, Woebot, Uncarved, verygoodplus etc etc). I didn't see this recognised in what he was saying - the swings that blogs give us as well as the roundabouts.

swears
25-04-2010, 12:46 PM
I kind of like our high-speed ADHD info-junkie culture with it's fingers constantly hovering over the fast forward or NEXT button. It's cool and futuristic.



James Flint: Why is it that much of the content on the Internet, this supposedly amazingly democratic, anarchic forum, is becoming dull and corporate and organised?

Nick Land: Your question suggests that there's some pre-existing social pool of liberatory, revolutionary, emancipatory creative potential that could be expected to spontaneously express itself as soon as it had an opportunity to do so. But there is no such intrinsic power of innovation latent in the human organism that's just waiting to bounce out onto the web. So the question really is what are the assemblages that are emerging? And correspondingly to what extent are distributed systems becoming operative as such?

nomadthethird
25-04-2010, 09:59 PM
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nomadthethird
25-04-2010, 10:09 PM
I kind of like our high-speed ADHD info-junkie culture with it's fingers constantly hovering over the fast forward or NEXT button. It's cool and futuristic.

Love that quote.

Ah, so now 'trolling' is writing one slightly negative and dismissive comment on a message board where you've contributed tons of very lengthy, in-depth posts on hundreds of topics.

Whatever, mms. Every so often you get into a little huff whenever someone suggests that the music industry might not be the be-all, end-all of human existence.

Maybe it's you who needs to settle down a bit.

zhao
26-04-2010, 07:15 AM
Ah, so now 'trolling' is writing one slightly negative and dismissive comment on a message board where you've contributed tons of very lengthy, in-depth posts on hundreds of topics.


so i made fun of something someone said: "mind: blown".

and mms comes in guns blazing: "you are a troll and you have nothing to say."

what's wrong with you marcus? seriously?

zhao
26-04-2010, 10:55 AM
you are the one who started being agressive toward me, little boy.

and please do send me more hate mail on face book, it is at once shocking and humorous that someone can be this petty and immature over a non-issue like this thread.

you are choosing your battles very well, Marcus Scott, and taking the things in life which needs to be taken seriously, seriously.

you are a winner. keep winning.

mms
26-04-2010, 12:02 PM
you are the one who started being agressive toward me, little boy.

and please do send me more hate mail on face book, it is at once shocking and humorous that someone can be this petty and immature over a non-issue like this thread.

you are choosing your battles very well, Marcus Scott, and taking the things in life which needs to be taken seriously, seriously.

you are a winner. keep winning.

i emailed you privately to try and sort this out, i asked you a question, i didn't send you any hate mail. I've always tried to sort things out, and i woud; think you were grown up to try and sort it out too, again if this sort of thread doesn't interest you get off it and don't try and bait me and get the fuck off it. You couldn't so.... i thought it was pretty funny, really more of a sigh than anything else - anyway you can delete it... I've tried to be civil with you but i can't be bothered really.

it seems you have more at stake, when basically i'd just like you to stop disrupting an interesting topic and stop trying to bait me with nonsense about how i work at warp and i edit my responses, and this moral bullshit about life and seriousness, all i want you to do is fuck off outta this topic anyway i'm deleting all my responses. lol

anyway not got time for this - if i wanted to deal with this nonsense i'd work in childcare.

I've deleted all my posts on this topic - i don't care or want a part of it, its an actually interesiting topic for once, and it's interesting that you and mother teresa wanted to piss all over it, but alas thats this board nowdays.