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22-06-2010, 02:26 AM
there's been a bit of buzz about this new mutant house variant coming out of the netherlands. the drums are in that percussive middleground between uk funky, kuduro, reggaeton, s.a. house and god knows what else. some of the synths sound straight out of grime, while others go for the high-pitched portamento'd-to-fuck style that's been the trend in central europe in recent years. personally the sheer menace of a lot of this stuff reminds of gloomcore (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYIEOd2lR2E).

check boomnoise's minimix: http://soundcloud.com/boomnoise/boomnoise-bubblin

most of the tracks are by these guys:


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22-06-2010, 04:02 AM
pretty cool shit i think.


has some info/tunes too.

22-06-2010, 04:43 AM

22-06-2010, 08:36 AM
does this have anything to do with this Rishi Romero Tune African Forest (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fspurrtNbn4) which we have been playing and has been blowing my mind since the Circle lot started playing it? kinda like Plastikman meets soca.

22-06-2010, 08:43 AM
Think my friend ricky has got some good examples of this sound, Ory do you like much 'Dutch' (well that's how I would catagorise it anyway) house?

22-06-2010, 11:07 AM
Sounds pretty cool. I wish I had the means to investigate yet another regional dance music that sounds like it could throw up some crackers.

22-06-2010, 11:25 AM
They've got some good stuff.

22-06-2010, 12:20 PM
i thought bubbling was the sped up ragga thing from Holland, is this related? Sounds interesting though will check it out.

22-06-2010, 01:29 PM
Boomnoise put me onto this stuff a couple of months ago, some really incredible stuff out there but you really need to search for it. Lots of mediocre tracks about, mind.

Good luck getting the tunes though, it's very difficult.

polystyle desu
22-06-2010, 02:48 PM
Thanks Oryx , Blackdown and all
Anti G's cut has an interesting sonic ...
also like how that Rishi Romero African Forest cut opens the beat up after awhile into something a little more then the usual, expected.
And yeah the bit reductionist starkness ala what was good about Plastikman.

Evolutions >>>

Tentative Andy
22-06-2010, 04:38 PM
Yeah on first glance I quite like some of this, cheers to Ory & co.

Aww Nein
22-06-2010, 05:10 PM
those first two tracks 0ry posted sound really interesting, the synths do seem more gloomcore then grimey i think mainly because of the reverb that seems to be put on them, really icy and flat, where as grime seems to be a lot more pixelated and dry. in a way has a lot more in common with a lot of stuff zomby does with synths. the rhythms however seem like they can go from being funky to almost idm levels of broken complexity.

i check out a lot of things that dave guam posted on his blog, couldnt quite find out whats the scenes centred around though, seems to incorporate some relatively "normal" stuff as well as completly aggrssive breakcore level battle tracks...

Benny B
22-06-2010, 05:33 PM
Does Bassjackers' 'Klambu' fall under the bubbling category then?

22-06-2010, 06:43 PM
Anti-G is big http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmUElknxybQ

23-06-2010, 01:40 AM

yeah innit

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so good

23-06-2010, 03:00 PM
It will be not long before urban dance music crew will suddenly start thinking it's cool to dig hardstyle/gabber ;)

dave quam
23-06-2010, 11:52 PM
African Forest, no.

DJ Chuckie (nowadays), Afrojack, Dutch House, kind of.

Anti-G, De Schurrmann, DJ Daycard, DJ Master D, DJ Master Q, DJ Shaun D, the newer sound.

DJ Moortje, the godfather of it all. He played a Cutty Ranks 12" at 45 by accident back in 1988 and the crowd loved it. Then came the drums, which are derived from tambu, an Afro-Curacaoan music. Somewhat like the Netherlands version of jungle in a way, in the 90s at least. It was very heavy on the DMC DJ battle aspect too, dancing included http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wY0fAYc7MF8

It is music made by Curacao and Suriname immigrants in the Netherlands for the most part (Moortje is from Curacao, Chuckie I believe from Suriname), but with the makeup of the Netherlands it is also made by Dominican Rep and Turkish immigrants as well. Turkish bubbling is like a whole different world.

It's one of the most interesting genres of music I've ever stumbled upon and with Anti-G and all these cats nowadays it still remains very interesting. When "Dutch House" came about it seemed like most DJs were kind of giving up on bubbling to be more successful and play bigger raves, though the music still often had the same drums.

Glad someone started this thread, I'll share some tunes old and new and some dope videos. I've definitely posted up a bunch of stuff on zee blog, I recommend definitely checking out the classic stuff like DJ Moortje "Money" and Flexmann - "Dill Dill Dill" and some of the battle tracks along with the newer cats.

24-06-2010, 01:58 PM
So bubbling isn't a new thing at all... It also changes my view of music world as I'v always thought (black) urban dance music is just US and UK thing. It makes thinking that what else similar styles there have been going on.

Though weren't the first gabber djs black, ex-hiphop djs? I'v even heard a story that gabber parties had skinheads attending, but there was so much strobo and smoke that they couldn't see who was playing, and when the rave was over the dj would exit via backdoor. Does anybody know was this really the case?

Tentative Andy
24-06-2010, 02:14 PM
It will be not long before urban dance music crew will suddenly start thinking it's cool to dig hardstyle/gabber ;)

Don't get it twisted, I was hanging out in Rotterdam with all the original key players back in 1991, I'm no bandwagon jumper.

;);););););) (x a further 50)

dave quam
24-06-2010, 08:07 PM
the Anti-G, Master D ect sound is definitely newer, but bubbling itself was birthed in like 1988

so yeah it's been around for a minute

25-06-2010, 02:53 AM
miss u, juke thread

28-06-2010, 06:38 PM
Discovered this genre recently thanks to Dave Quam’s blog.

in a way has a lot more in common with a lot of stuff zomby does with synths
Yes, it’s pretty obvious in this CrazyShit:

Download it + some of his tracks here (http://a-nti-g.hyves.nl/widget/79293514/Beluisteren_Downl0aden_Aight/0RYF/).

29-06-2010, 06:00 PM
Don't get it twisted, I was hanging out in Rotterdam with all the original key players back in 1991, I'm no bandwagon jumper.

;);););););) (x a further 50)

Whatever. (though you do have a great experience there :D )

I just find it annoying when urban heads are always sniffing at hard house/hardstyle/gabber. Tbh trance hate is boring too.

Aww Nein
30-06-2010, 01:10 AM
talking of hardstyle/hardcore/gabber, anything by Marc Acardipane is pretty immense... his best of double cd with about 30 different alias' is one of my tops. as is this track, with oddly has this thing of keeping some of the best bits of idm (the weird skittery middle 8) whilst being utterly raw (like some of this bubbling stuff...)

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for more of this check the gloomcore thread...

Tentative Andy
30-06-2010, 09:00 PM
I just find it annoying when urban heads are always sniffing at hard house/hardstyle/gabber. Tbh trance hate is boring too.

Yeah, I know what you mean.
The vast majority of gabba and hardstyle just isn't my kind of thing, but I have no disrespect towards it. It's a very distinctive style of dance music which has its own strong tradition, and the people who make and listen to it obv care a great deal about it. And although the rate of evolution in it does seem slower comapred to UK styles, its obviously been innovative at various points.
I do remember quite enjoying some 'jumpstyle', though I only ever heard a few examples of it.
As for trance, I don't reckon I dislike it so much as I just almost never listen to it. It's just off my radar, y'know.

30-06-2010, 10:18 PM
my journey into electronic music started with trance and other kinds of eurocheese so it's always been there in the back of my mind. the strong hatred of it irks me. some of it's really quite good (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zW6FQv11dk).

i digress

30-06-2010, 10:53 PM
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goes offffffffff

here's a 320 (http://www.zshare.net/audio/778343159b101ea7/)

01-07-2010, 07:21 PM
producer DJ Shaun-D in the mix > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbwqwLNUWw4

dave quam
02-07-2010, 10:15 PM
Yeah that Master D track is amazing. There are a handful of tracks like that, straight up drum tracks. DJ Chuckie's "Caribbean Drumz" is a big one too.

I'm definitely not into gabber, hard style, and well most "Dutch house". Gabber especially I think i's pretty annoying. Some older/classic type stuff is sort of interesting I guess, but generally I just don't like it. Just me tho. Definitely a different world than bubbling, though there have been overlaps (there are also some Moortje tracks that are straight up jungle)

04-07-2010, 11:13 AM
uploaded yesterday > Anti-G - OepSs Te Hardd! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6H4bINWUuOo)

04-07-2010, 03:19 PM
Wow that's cold. Loving that acoustics.

18-07-2010, 05:05 AM
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03-10-2010, 01:41 PM

03-10-2010, 10:37 PM
Absolutely loving this sound recently, anyone who could fill me in on the history and culture of the scene would be much appreciated

04-10-2010, 06:45 AM
anyone who could fill me in on the history and culture of the scene would be much appreciated

Don't know to much about the history and scene in depth.... but enough about the culture.
I lived in Holland for 13 years and I recall going to bubbling parties from as early as 1996. At first I went there alone by accident when I was off my tits on pills and was looking for a night out then I started dating a Surinams woman who use to attend them regularly so I attended quiet a lot of events. Where I lived in Amsterdam South East(Kraaiennest) back then was mainly an immigrant area and pretty run down (it was the same area that the Israeli jet crashed into the tower block) I did stick out like a sore thumb being white as fuck but people were cool once they got to know your face. There would be some good stuff going on there on a regular basis due to the local government pumping money into community improvement schemes. Over summer they would get funding to do street parties and festivals and there would be a lot of Bubbling/Hip Hop/Reggae parties and even back then 'bubbling' was big.

[edit] got to stop typing and get to work , will finish this at a later point.

dave quam
05-10-2010, 02:21 AM
The Hague 1988, a Curacaoan-born DJ by the name of Moortje (Dutch for
"blackie") was spinning Caribbean records at a party at Club Voltage
when by accident a 33 rpm 12" was played at 45. Rather than the crowd
frowning at the Cutty Ranks record sounding like Mickey Mouse, the
dance floor exploded. This is the myth behind the birth of bubbling,
the genre responsible for the unique sound of current Dutch house.
Moortje went with the sound he had mistakenly created, and added a
drum pattern based on traditional tambu drum music from Curacao.
"Neddereggaeton" being one of the nicknames for Dem Bow's cousin, and
Jamaican records at half and double time had become localized to the
Antillean communities in the Netherlands. "Some say it first was an
expression of hidden protest, born in the Antillean youth culture."
(to quote an old Dutch article). Along with the producers were MCs
Pret and Pester, who would rap of government and oppression of
immigrants while Moortje manned the decks. The music remained popular
throughout the 90s, but naturally parties became engrossed with
reggaeton and jungle as well. Once the 2000s hit, house music became
the party favorite with former bubbling DJs like DJ Chuckie keeping
the same drums and bringing them to the rave. So-called "Dutch house"
took over, but bubbling remains in the underground, with young
producers of Curacaoan, Surinamese, and Dominican backgrounds keeping
the sound alive using bootleg computer software.

That's how I explained it once

10-03-2011, 05:33 PM

proud to announce planet mu has signed Anti-G a/k/a Kentje'sz Beatsz for a double-pack later in the year

10-03-2011, 06:13 PM
proud to announce planet mu has signed Anti-G a/k/a Kentje'sz Beatsz for a double-pack later in the year

Good news.

10-03-2011, 07:36 PM
planet mu has signed Anti-G a/k/a Kentje'sz Beatsz for a double-pack later in the year

very very good news

10-03-2011, 07:39 PM
this stuff sounds like the mutant child of juke, grime & funky to me :D

The sparseness is such a refreshing contrast to current post Dubstep House trends

12-04-2011, 03:38 PM
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At a party in the late 80s in The Hague, a local DJ by the name of DJ Moortje accidentally dropped a dancehall twelve-inch at 45RPMs, causing chaos in the audience. Not the kind of negative heckling you get when a record is skipped, but the kind of excitement that happens when a movement has been started. This beautiful mistake resulted in Bubbling, a cultural expression of immigrants from The Dutch Antilles and Suriname, a genre that would take these communities by storm in Holland in the 1990s. Jamaican exports such as the Fever Pitch and Bam Bam riddims were double and half-timed, with Cutty Ranks on one hand sounding like a prepubescent chipmunk, the other hand sounding like an evil duppy. Its sound borrowed slave rhythms from Curacao (DJ Moortjeís origin), creating a new Caribbean style of music in Europe that ran parallel to Londonís Jungle scene.

This excitement eventually died down in The Netherlands, and Dutch House became the dominant genre in the late 2000s. There was more money to be made, and bigger parties to be played when your music didnít consist of pitched up dancehall, and bubbling became reserved exclusively for the black and Latin crowds, especially teenagers. However, House in Holland was littered with Caribbean influence, and eventually a new generation of DJs would pioneer a new sound, known as Bubbling House. A group of cousins, DJís Shaun-D, Master-D, Daycard, and Deschuurman who loved Dutch House but couldnít shake their traditions created a new sound, with hyper Fruity Loop synths over pitched up Dem Bow drums. The sound could be found all over Youtube and regional social media sites, the same way the rest of the global youth were distributing their music from Chicago to Luanda.

Anti-G a.k.a. Kentje'sz Beatsz, an 18-year-old producer from the Dutch city of Delft is of the current Bubbling House generation, but his music often stabs at other realms. Like many of his peers, he takes in the popular styles of the black and Latin communities of Holland: Bubbling, Reggaeton, Dutch and American Hip-Hop, and House, and loads those influence into Fruity Loops on his PC. This often results in all of those genres crammed into 3 minutes of audio, though occasionally he singles one out. The atmosphere is cold and industrial, not-unlike the sound created by UK Grime producers, but with polyrhythms that swing like Funky House. His tracks often canít decide if theyíre for a rave or a rap show, but in the end sound like the soundtrack for someone getting stabbed in space.

Anti-G Presents 'Kentje'sz Beatsz' is a collection of material made between 2009 and 2010, showing all of the faces of his work. Bubbling Cause Trouble and Crack The Glass! tap into the current club scene of Holland, while tracks such as Reggaeton Man! are his own mutant Dem Bow riddims. Itís a trip through Dutch social networking sites such as Hyves, and an example of the experimentation brewing with the current digital youth of the Surinamese and Antillean communities of The Netherlands. These drums may come from the Caribbean, but the synths belong on a space station.

[Dave Quam 2011]

12-04-2011, 03:59 PM
anti-g makes me want to stop making music. he's so next level it's not even funny

04-05-2011, 10:09 PM
Been listening to this stuff today. Anti G makes some amazing stuff. Can't wait for the album now.

05-05-2011, 10:11 PM

Anti G album clips.

06-05-2011, 07:51 PM
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dave quam
06-05-2011, 10:10 PM
just to be clear, Anti-G is definitely in his own world, a total outsider/just a kid on the internet. Def not a great representation of bubbling, just weird/dope music. His stuff definitely has a lot in common with bubbling house, which is what guys like de schuurman and dj shaun-d make...sort of the gap between bubbling and dutch house, but Anti-G is way more bent, less dance floor friendly.

FYI, bubbling is basically dead in the NLs, and it has been for a while. Dutch House took over and unfortunately the chipmunk reggae disappeared. There are still some people making it, but most of these people are doing the bubbling house thing, which sometimes can be really interesting, and sometimes way too dutch housey for my tastes. Almost no one is making the old moortje/battle style, though I have talked to some cat who want to bring it back. According to De Schuurman, some young Antillean and Surinamese kids (14-16) still party to bubbling though, but nobody older. So it's state of being "dead" is kind of weird, and I've had a lot of different answers.

dave quam
06-05-2011, 10:11 PM
and that's funny De Schuurman just sent me that video haha! He wasn't even spinning he just gave his cd to the dj too

07-05-2011, 05:33 PM
any comps/albums I should look for when browsing through 2nd hand sections of dutch record shops?

dave quam
08-05-2011, 11:19 PM
hmm, I don't think much even came out on vinyl, and there really don't even seem to be that many official releases period. Lots of mixtapes, but yeah I haven't really found much in terms of "real" releases. There are the Bubbling Beats comps that I think were on both vinyl and CD, which have some good stuff on them.

But if you find anything by DJ Moortje, DJ Kenneth, DJ Funk, DJ Memmie, DJ Chippie, or MC Pester, you should buy it.

09-05-2011, 07:37 AM
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not in stock at juno. bummer


09-05-2011, 08:02 AM
man boomnoise was playing some tracks off of the anti g (well I hope they are on the album) album last week and I have heard a few previews, they sound excellent.

(Ory I think I may of reported one of your posts by accident)

09-05-2011, 11:10 AM
this stuff is pretty sick. sounds like some of the weirder funky ive heard. can totally imagine marcus nasty playing this. actually, maybe he already is. reminds me of what hes into these days.

the anti g stuff bests (and also reminds me of) a lot of whats going on in the uk. arguably. perhaps. crack the glass is like terror danjah. i cant stop playing this actually.

if this stuff gets more grime/dubstep/funky ppl into gabba, that could be interesting!

not sure about this tho:
"His tracks often can’t decide if they’re for a rave or a rap show, but in the end sound like the soundtrack for someone getting stabbed in space."
that sounds like something a guardian writer would write (love everything else dave quam has written otherwise).

09-05-2011, 11:30 AM
funky DJs have def been playing tracks like this. more on the dutch house side of things, but the jump to bubbling isn't too big so maybe we'll see some crossover with funky.

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dave quam
09-05-2011, 02:01 PM
Ouch not the Guardian! JK

I dunno, I guess I can just imagine myself stabbing someone for some reason? This is the first thing I wrote about the dude.


RE: Gabber: That was sort of the enemy of the bubbling scene back in the day according to some people I've talked to. Bubbling dudes hated it, and vice versa. I dunno what that means in 2011, just figured I'd mention it. I can't stand that stuff personally.

I'm gonna pull out some old mixes from my collection and upload them later today.

11-05-2011, 09:13 AM
oh no he isnt

(well theyre quite diff really arent they)

but im sticking with the above assessment

19-05-2011, 10:34 AM
and suddenly she is pregnant SWA!!!!!!!!! LOL


dave quam
19-05-2011, 10:19 PM
haha yeah MC Pester is a goof, he has some really strange videos.

I forgot, has anybody mentioned the competitive dance aspect of bubbling in this thread?

Just search bubbling battle on Youtube there's some pretty crazy stuff on there uploading by old heads. It's definitely super old school pop lock style stuff because the whole scene pretty much died around 2004, but I love it ether way. A lot of weird versions of Jamaican dances like the Bogel done to mickey mouse music.

06-06-2011, 09:50 AM
Anti-G out today

06-06-2011, 05:36 PM
might be fun to hear one of these tracks in a club, but i can't imagine sitting through an entire cd of this stuff at home.

i must be getting old... :slanted:

12-06-2011, 02:03 PM
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12-06-2011, 02:19 PM
Zomby's better

he really isn't

12-06-2011, 03:59 PM
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Love this. Hadn't heard of him before but this one is good as well-

Need to blag some of these actually.

16-06-2011, 02:53 PM
so grimey

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18-06-2011, 03:13 PM

18-06-2011, 03:31 PM
maybe we need a separate dutch house thread? dunno if anyone's that bothered tho

18-06-2011, 03:42 PM
nah i like that Bubbling can be used to describe all those sounds

dave quam
19-06-2011, 12:05 AM
Dutch House was born from bubbling, but it's a different genre. A lot of the producers have dropped the bubbling drums from there palates even. What De Schuurman, Anti-G, and DJ Daycard do is Bubbling House, but what guys like DJ Chuckie are doing nowadays really doesn't have a lot to do with bubbling anymore.

Also, most Dutch House is really annoying and awful. Does it really need it's own thread? Early stuff can definitely be put in here, like this classic http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjkbqHSpHh8 but Dutch House from the last few years really doesn't belong.

20-07-2011, 10:24 AM
what else sounds like this stuff? i really want to hear more of it. there must be other techno stuff from europe thats similar or has similar synths. (i have been listening to the anti g album quite a lot). would be great if planet mu did a bubbling house comp.

09-01-2012, 05:22 PM

Judging from the title I was worried Anti-G was starting to make trad house beats (kind of like how Deschuurman opted for sub-optimal hip-hop instrumentals at some point) but these still go hard and there's a free download in it for ye as well

30-06-2012, 09:00 AM
kentje still on it



30-06-2012, 10:52 AM
Rough one! Good he's on a bubbling thing again. I wonder, has anyone ever heard one of his beats played in a club somewhere? I think his music doesn't really work that good as a listening experience at home but put a few of his tracks in a DJ mix and I'm sure the place will go down.

02-10-2016, 03:42 PM
I was out in Dam the other day heard tuuness that maybe falls under this category. Sounded more sophisticated though? More TRVP inspired hi-gloss? Was good anyway

02-10-2016, 05:16 PM
Broederliefde maybe? They're prolly the biggest thing at the moment in NL. I posted some in the non-English rap thread: http://www.dissensus.com/showthread.php?t=13719&page=2

02-10-2016, 05:32 PM
Or maybe you heard this one?


02-10-2016, 09:33 PM
Duuno heard loads of shit I was in a club, licked

02-10-2016, 09:34 PM
Liked it though

03-10-2016, 07:59 AM
Yeah actually you were right one of the lads shazaamed a broederliefte tune in the club (Ik Was Al Binnen)

13-10-2016, 05:33 PM
Yeah actually you were right one of the lads shazaamed a broederliefte tune in the club (Ik Was Al Binnen)

Although it has never been gone completely there seems to be a bit of a revival. This one is a remix of a very popular rap tune from last year.


12-01-2017, 06:05 PM
Sortof tribute to Moortje, the 90's and all that.


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28-04-2017, 12:27 PM
Friend of mine made a little mix with predominantly Dutch producers, it's not strictly bubbling but it fits in the whole bubbling > dirty dutch house > edm line. I think there's a lot of good stuff being made at the moment, especially in the r&b/rap corner.


12-05-2017, 02:51 PM