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Bang Diddley
03-09-2010, 01:24 PM
Hi Dissensus,

Been away a while . . .

I want to get some decent PC speakers. Can anyone suggest any ?

2.0 or 2.1 setup. Budget is about 100. Maybe a touch more for the right setup.

nomos
03-09-2010, 09:45 PM
A while ago I was looking but never followed through. I'd narrowed it down to Creative Gigaworks T20/40s (http://us.store.creative.com/category/19937543341/1/Speaker-Systems.htm) or M-Audio Studiophiles (http://www.m-audio.ca/index.php?do=products.family&ID=speakersConsumer). Both sounded good to me. I'd originally planned to go 2.1 but, reading reviews, it sounded like most of those systems were geared toward video games and explosion movies. Too much boomy bass and not enough middle.

Bang Diddley
03-09-2010, 11:02 PM
A while ago I was looking but never followed through. I'd narrowed it down to Creative Gigaworks T20/40s (http://us.store.creative.com/category/19937543341/1/Speaker-Systems.htm) or M-Audio Studiophiles (http://www.m-audio.ca/index.php?do=products.family&ID=speakersConsumer). Both sounded good to me. I'd originally planned to go 2.1 but, reading reviews, it sounded like most of those systems were geared to0
ward video games and explosion movies. Too much boomy bass and not enough middle.

yeah that's the impression i'm gettiing. 2.1 set ups are to too much boomnoise (we got a poster by that name i think :) )

So far im thinking about the AudioEngine A2's which are a 2.0 set up.

Ive tried a 2.1 setup on my home hifi and not really been impressed as the sound doesn't sound as cohesive for want of a better word as a 2 floorstander speaker set up.

slowtrain
04-09-2010, 06:39 AM
Yup, we have a 5.1 I think, just because it was really cheap, but even with the bass fully minimised its pretty intense... They're for people who wanna hear nuclear bombs on their xboxs sorta thing

massrock
04-09-2010, 11:36 AM
I'd look into getting some powered monitors if you actually want nice sound. Might have to spend a bit more but they'll stand you in good stead.

Maybe something like these - http://www.dv247.com/studio-equipment/edirol-ma-15d-digital-stereo-micro-active-monitors--27074

I've got some Yamaha HS50Ms which I would also recommend for the price. Should be able to get a new pair for around 220.

You can always add a sub later too.

nomos
04-09-2010, 03:33 PM
I'd look into getting some powered monitors if you actually want nice sound. Might have to spend a bit more but they'll stand you in good stead.
That's the route I eventually took.

Brother Randy Hickey
04-09-2010, 03:48 PM
I've got the Gigaworks T20s and I'm really happy with them, although i'm not exactly an audiophile

you
15-09-2010, 07:17 PM
ok, guys, I need help too.

I have a mac and want to enjoy my tracks on real speakers, I always used to hook up to the Hi-fi, phono out to a video in etc...... but thats at home and it's a little big.

I've been looking at the Harman Kardon sound sticks ( why do I sense a learned audiophile groaning at this? ) - coz they look nice - but then started worrying about amps and proper kit. I dont need massive volume, just good quality, textured sounds, everything from IDM to Scriabin to Dillinger Escape Plan to Quasimoto will be listened to....... yeah I got no taste...

Should I get an amp then speakers? Or just get dem Kardon tings?

?

reeltoreel
15-09-2010, 10:35 PM
Maybe a pair of these (http://www.directproaudio.com/product.cfm?directid=60039) with a Mission Cyrus One (second-hand) (http://www.audioscope.net/images/missioncyrus1.jpg?osCsid=681cd892bee19b16733243058 72cad36)?

depends on the $$$...

Bang Diddley
15-09-2010, 11:02 PM
Still not bought anything yet. Good reports on the Altec Lansing mx5021. Tho still on the Audio Engine tip if I can get them for a decent price.

matt b
16-09-2010, 09:16 AM
Should I get an amp then speakers? Or just get dem Kardon tings?


Whilst beautiful, the Kardon soundsticks have a gaping hole where the mids should be.

For sound quality, there are better around.

you
16-09-2010, 02:14 PM
Whilst beautiful, the Kardon soundsticks have a gaping hole where the mids should be.

For sound quality, there are better around.

any suggestions??

nomos
16-09-2010, 05:47 PM
^^ i'd still consider the gigaworks or m-audios mentioned above, or go with a lower end powered monitor if you want better quality without the hassle of an amp. i think m-audio are trying to market the studiophile series as a compromise between monitors and regular computer speakers. the edirols mentioned by massrock look nice as well.

you
17-09-2010, 10:27 AM
hi nomos

I think those two options are my best bet.

I'm leaning towards the M audio as I think the stats look better - but aesthetically I'd rather spend money on the gigaworks.

For comparision,

M-Audio Studiophile AV 40 Speaker System

20 watts per channel
Frequency response: 85Hz-20kHz

Gigaworks T40 series II

16 Watts RMS per channel (2 channels)
Frequency response : 50Hz ~ 20kHz

I've read that the M-Audio's have wood as their body, supposedly this will improve their sound. I'm unsure of what the Gigaworks T40 series II are constructed from. Any truth in this?

Also does the frequency response make a great difference ( I'd think it would ) - does this make the Gigaworks 'better'.

Help an indecisive git....

nomos
17-09-2010, 01:37 PM
i've heard the T40s in someone's home and they sounded really nice and balanced, though it was rock/country being played so i can't be sure how well they extended into the lowest end. but i was certainly impressed. the m-audios i only got to hear in a shop while the twit of an owner was nattering on at me about how the ear can't hear anything below 80Hz anyway. :rolleyes: in that environment, at least, they sounded nice but lightweight. they certainly didn't cut right off at 85Hz, but i tried a very low, clean bassline through them and it came out distorted (a buzzy hum in place of the original sine-like tone) while losing most of its body. in the end, i figured that would be the trade off in that price range without a sub. best to try both out if you can.

i found the reviews on amazon really helpful with this stuff, starting with the 1-star ones and moving up.

you
26-09-2010, 04:10 PM
Heard some Bose Companion 3s in John Lewis today, sounded, uh, nice. Quite full and textured but it was shite music.

Cannot find any stats about these online, wattage etc.

Anyone have any experience with Bose stuff, they are a little more expensive than other options discussed but they look nicer, Bose have a good rep but naturally I dont want to blindly trust that...

Bang Diddley
26-09-2010, 11:52 PM
Bose tend to be expensive for what you get. I think I heard the ones you talking about but the high freq speakers didn't carry any mid range so if you didn't have the sub had to be on and then there was too much boom.

Nightmare getting the right balance but I've decided against a 2.1 set up for sure. I'm all outta cash atm so it's all about headphones.

you
31-01-2011, 11:04 AM
Well.... I ended up going down the whole stand alone amp and speakers system route.

Got a panasonic SA-XR50 hooked up to Q Acoustics 2020, sound is unbelievable, so detailed - noticing bad MP3's, sloppy riffs, flat production...... I didn't notice these aspects before, now I can really appreciate the good sounds, and good tracks.

I'm going to connect my phillips CD/CDR via an optical lead to the amp soon, looking forward to that.

Can anyone talk to me about khz sample rates with regard to the amp, it changes as I select different sound modes.... so for now i'm keeping it at it's highest and changing the EQ on the mac......but most MP3's on the mac are at 44Khz regardless of being 128 or 320 bit..... What would a CD be????

Thanks

Audio Noob

nomos
31-01-2011, 05:25 PM
sounds nice! CDs are 44khz. DVDs are 48khz afaik.

you
31-01-2011, 07:52 PM
really? So worrying about 192khz dropping to 48khz is a bit silly really considering the source......

Is a DAC worth it? Could I get a DAC for my MAC with an optical out?

you
02-02-2011, 07:52 PM
updating to the sake of consistency really....

DAC's would be a waste of time for me, from my itunes the music goes.....digital 44.1khz-analogue-digital 192khz-analogue-ears - lots of conversions

With a DAC the music would still have many conversions.... i'm better off just getting an optical out and keeping it digital until inside my amp for conversion to analogue then ( as it HAS to go from digital to analogue then because I only have one amp and it's digital ).

I have my CD recorder playing CD's at 44.1Khz going through the optical cable into the amp staying at 44.1khz before going analogue for the speakers - best sound that way keeping it simple. Wish my Mac had an optical out!

nomos
02-02-2011, 08:59 PM
yeah this is where that stuff loses me. i've never dealt with a digital receiver before. sounds like it could get quite fussy and confusing.

you
03-04-2011, 12:25 AM
crunken upgrade itch post......

I have my digital panny sa-xr50, with an optical connex to my mac and cd player.... all good.

Now, I know the sa-xr50 can do dtx Neo 5.1 -6.1 taking a stereo source ( in my case digital ) and splitting ( re-interpreting ) it into 19 sounds to distribute to 6 speakers...... so the most surround experience possible from what is essentially a stereo source.

Has anybody tried this???? I'm thinking gamelan and shackleton would sound quite good like this....

you
06-11-2011, 08:42 AM
why do the technology threads disappear?

Leo
27-10-2014, 06:17 PM
hey...this thread is a bit out of date, any suggestions on decent wireless PC speakers?

I'm not looking for ones with separate subwoofers or anything, just want to replace my old harman/kardons (which still sound pretty good but the wires are a pain and ugly). need to be relatively small, my current PC speakers are 7" x 4", so around that size. appreciate any thoughts.

m99188868
28-10-2014, 03:06 PM
If wires are the problem, have you considered grabbing an Airport Express? They cost about as much as a pair of decent pc speakers and you can use them to send the music to any sound installation you want. We use one for the home office and it really beats having shitty little speakers on your desk.

Leo
28-10-2014, 03:25 PM
If wires are the problem, have you considered grabbing an Airport Express? They cost about as much as a pair of decent pc speakers and you can use them to send the music to any sound installation you want. We use one for the home office and it really beats having shitty little speakers on your desk.

Hmm, good idea, thanks for the suggestion. I have a Airport Express as my wifi, but my stereo receiver is really old and my speakers are far from the Airport, so don't think I'm able to set up AirPlay. I believe you have to connect the speaker to the Airport, is that correct? Or is the connection done via the receiver?

benw
28-10-2014, 09:28 PM
slite thread derail but can anyone suggest a decent sounding ipod dock / ipod speakers system for 50-80?

m99188868
29-10-2014, 08:20 AM
Hmm, good idea, thanks for the suggestion. I have a Airport Express as my wifi, but my stereo receiver is really old and my speakers are far from the Airport, so don't think I'm able to set up AirPlay. I believe you have to connect the speaker to the Airport, is that correct? Or is the connection done via the receiver?

If the speakers are powered, you connect directly to your speakers. From what you write, though, I presume they are powered by a receiver. In that case you need to connect to the receiver/amplifier through an analog or digital optical cable (depending on how new your receiver is). Mine goes to 70s Marantz; works like a charm.

Leo
29-10-2014, 02:28 PM
If the speakers are powered, you connect directly to your speakers. From what you write, though, I presume they are powered by a receiver. In that case you need to connect to the receiver/amplifier through an analog or digital optical cable (depending on how new your receiver is). Mine goes to 70s Marantz; works like a charm.

thanks, m. will look into it.