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geiom
09-11-2010, 01:36 PM
its lavish but daft - what did folk think about it ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jg5wkZ-dJXA&feature=related

continuum
09-11-2010, 05:00 PM
to accompany the above here is an interview from 5 November with him:

http://worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhBv710RO6oOUXLl0C

CrowleyHead
09-11-2010, 10:10 PM
Perfect Ingenious Ridiculousness.

See: Space Is The Place and pretty much every Prince Movie.

There's all these things with double meanings; people complain about certain things that others adore. I mean, it REALLY IS the Kanye West movie. And, as a friend of mine summarized in one sentence: "... Homeboy, straight, fucked a phoenix, Dog."

mistersloane
10-11-2010, 12:42 AM
It's fucking awful. Really, really, like the worst thing to have come out of culture since 'From Luxury To Heartache' by Culture Club.

geiom
10-11-2010, 10:22 AM
Perfect Ingenious Ridiculousness.

See: Space Is The Place and pretty much every Prince Movie.

There's all these things with double meanings; people complain about certain things that others adore. I mean, it REALLY IS the Kanye West movie. And, as a friend of mine summarized in one sentence: "... Homeboy, straight, fucked a phoenix, Dog."

lol

as a film its ridiculous/derivative etc but I do love some of the music - like the autotune acapella that starts around 27mins

baboon2004
10-11-2010, 10:26 AM
It's fucking awful. Really, really, like the worst thing to have come out of culture since 'From Luxury To Heartache' by Culture Club.

"So good, especially if you apprechiate art." - youtube comments

mistersloane
10-11-2010, 10:49 AM
^ now that's genius.

I don't doubt his intentions for a second, but he's embarrassingly delusional. Cocaine's a hell of a drug.

routes
10-11-2010, 10:51 AM
yep i like art. more or this sortof thing please, mr west.

zhao
10-11-2010, 11:14 AM
just can't handle the pressure anymore eh?

Damien
10-11-2010, 01:06 PM
that interview is amazing, but I couldn't watch it without holding my hands over my eyes, Kanye West is the definition of digging your own grave, he just comes out with the stupidest shit

geiom
10-11-2010, 10:57 PM
yeah the interview is unbelievable. like a comedy sketch. what is he on? !

cobretti
10-11-2010, 11:01 PM
The new album has leaked, the clean version anyway. It's pretty good, not as anthemic as his first three or as out there as 808s, and it's a little over reliant on collabs, but I can't get that Aphex sampling track The Blame Game out of my head. Dark Fantasy has a great beat, produced by RZA & No ID, and Monster deserves a mention if only for Nicki Minaj's verse, which hits you right between the eyes much like Busta did on Scenario. I don't even like Minaj, in fact on Drake's tracks with her she makes my toes curl, but she's great on Monster.

luka
11-11-2010, 05:12 AM
rza and no id collaborated? i wonder how that eventuated. no id is kaynes mentor isn't he?

cobretti
11-11-2010, 02:11 PM
rza and no id collaborated? i wonder how that eventuated. no id is kaynes mentor isn't he?

So goes the song aye.

geiom
13-11-2010, 11:33 AM
The new album has leaked, the clean version anyway. It's pretty good, not as anthemic as his first three or as out there as 808s, and it's a little over reliant on collabs, but I can't get that Aphex sampling track The Blame Game out of my head. Dark Fantasy has a great beat, produced by RZA & No ID, and Monster deserves a mention if only for Nicki Minaj's verse, which hits you right between the eyes much like Busta did on Scenario. I don't even like Minaj, in fact on Drake's tracks with her she makes my toes curl, but she's great on Monster.

its weird, I thought that sounded aphexesque when I 1st heard it but didn't realise it IS aphex

great trk, shame he didn't get aphex and chris cunningham to help make the video

Joey Joe-Joe Jr. Shabadoo
13-11-2010, 12:48 PM
I do love some of the music - like the autotune acapella that starts around 27mins

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geiom
13-11-2010, 06:19 PM
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thanks for that. amazing trak!. what an inspired thing for a folk act to try

Leo
29-11-2010, 08:27 PM
crazy reviews of this new album: "genius!", "masterpiece!", "10.0!"...really? he's always sort of rubbed me the wrong way, never really taken to his previous stuff. should i give this one a go, is it really that amazing?

crackerjack
29-11-2010, 08:45 PM
great trk, shame he didn't get aphex and chris cunningham to help make the video

Ha ha, that'd would've been worth seeing.

The album's great, his best in 5 years at least. But the movie is exactly as bad as Sloane says, just empirically beyond-words awful.

blackpixie
29-11-2010, 08:55 PM
crazy reviews of this new album: "genius!", "masterpiece!", "10.0!"...really? he's always sort of rubbed me the wrong way, never really taken to his previous stuff. should i give this one a go, is it really that amazing?

I love the cd but a lot of that comes from just being a kanye fan ever since the first cd. For people who have followed him since college dropout its very easy to sympathize with his career and appreciate (and put up with...) all the freak outs, rants etc. that have pretty much made this album.

Kanye was always kinda unstable but i think he might actually be going insane...


Kanye: So what inspired you to have that pink tank on your last tour? That was amazing, when you were sitting on top of the army tank.
Rihanna: I love to combine femininity with a kind of extreme masculine egde, and I felt like the tank is just not a typical thing that you think of when you think of a girl — or in any kind of relation to a girl. Then we made it hot pink. We just added that touch.
Kanye: I mean, people really need to see a photograph — the entire tank was pink. That was a great piece of commercial pop art. Was the idea of that to kind of portray an American Dream — like the fantasy of a this hot black girl sitting on a top of a pink tank?
Rihanna: I never actually thought of it like that.
Kanye: How does it feel to know that you could have any man in the world. Or woman. How does it feel to know that you can turn straight women gay?
Rihanna: Is that a real question?
Kanye: Yeah.
Rihanna: Well … Thank you. I don’t know how to feel about that. I guess that’s flattering.
Kanye: But just to have that level of power. How do deal with it? No one woman should have that much power.

and that 10.0 pitchfork review was always inevitable

more of same interview (http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2010/11/kanye_totally_weirds_rihanna_o.html)

Sick Boy
29-11-2010, 10:42 PM
hahahahahahaha I ♥ Kanye
He's like the Ron Artest of rap.
Oh wait.
Ron Artest is the Ron Artest of rap.

gumdrops
30-11-2010, 10:56 AM
hahaha i need to read more new kanye interviews.
genius.

baboon2004
30-11-2010, 11:49 AM
That interview is epic. Does Kanye often compare himself to McQueen and Picasso (or whatever it was) and a five year-old?

gumdrops
30-11-2010, 12:28 PM
all of the lights' drum programming is totally dubstep.

mms
30-11-2010, 12:58 PM
yeah the interview is unbelievable. like a comedy sketch. what is he on? !

Cocaine.

This was total nonsense really, pretty nonense.

Damien
30-11-2010, 08:33 PM
I'm really drawn to Kanye's nonsense rants. Something so real about this guy that he will say shit that no-one else would dare come out with,

just the most beautiful stream of consciousness type shit like an unguarded child he speaks the absolute truth without thought of repurcussion

simon silverdollar
30-11-2010, 09:14 PM
That interview is epic. Does Kanye often compare himself to McQueen and Picasso (or whatever it was) and a five year-old?

and comparing himself to the student in front of the tank at tiananmen square! what a guy.

gumdrops
01-12-2010, 10:20 AM
hes an idiot at times but you have to laugh. i do like how he likes slipping in the phrase POP CULTURE or POP ART wherever possible.

simon silverdollar
02-12-2010, 06:41 PM
all of the lights' drum programming is totally dubstep.

yeah 'all of the lights' also makes me think of a multi-millionaire version of ruff sqwad - epic drama + synth-brass.

CrowleyHead
02-12-2010, 07:52 PM
I can't stand 'All Of The Lights' really. Multiple levels of annoyance.

Majority of the album is good/great for me. I like how he's gotten out of this cotton candy pop/hip-hop thing and after pulling 808s out, is now trying to marry that to rap. It's not THAT experimental, but it's enough that it can shake off the truly abysmal vibes he was making around 'Graduation'.

And I daresay he's the only Rapper/Producer who can say things that are interesting. Save Wiley.

Benny B
02-12-2010, 09:15 PM
its hella catchy this new kanye album. I'm quite partial to a grand folly now and then and this album certainly fits the bill.

Sick Boy
02-12-2010, 09:19 PM
I like Kanye because he's clearly engaged in a search for deeper meaning but he's stuck with the unfortunate disadvantage that nothing about his life corresponds in the slightest to the reality experienced by normal people. This is a man who has had two consecutive US Presidents comment publicly on his behaviour.

gumdrops
03-12-2010, 01:24 PM
hes gradually lost touch with whatever grip on reality he had though, as with the first album that was his whole shtick, being caught up between being just an everyday guy and moving in millionaire circles and all the materialistic/fame temptations he was trying to resist. now, or since graduation, hes stopped resisting them and has just bought into it more or less completely, just with occasional glimmers of normality here and there. i like kanye the pop star though. im prob one of the few people that would like him to do another 808s type album.

massrock
04-12-2010, 12:40 AM
looks like mania in that interview.

Damien
04-12-2010, 02:51 PM
to accompany the above here is an interview from 5 November with him:

http://worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhBv710RO6oOUXLl0C

This interview inspired me to do this for some reason:

http://soundcloud.com/cathoderaymission/kanye

blackpixie
05-12-2010, 04:27 AM
808 was and still is my favorite album just for the fact that he came off as honest as is possible for kanye. Tbh i dont even really think about the auto tune.

It seems unlikely though that with all the warhol and mj name dropping, he really did create an album that most of the critics would agree is some serious pop art. There is something special about him il say that...

BareBones
10-12-2010, 02:52 PM
can't believe i only just got round to checking this. wow! i thought it was great. nonsense, yes, arrogant, yes, but at least he's got some ambition. and it works because the tunes are great too.

and christ i think i'm in love with that phoenix.

BareBones
10-12-2010, 03:44 PM
that interview is SO hilarious as well

"i like white people more than any other rapper in the world - look at my pants!"