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grizzleb
19-11-2010, 03:51 PM
Might need to punt my bunger if I can't get some cash soon... I think I'd rather sell my body for scientific rather than sexual purposes though. Has anyone ever partook in paid clinical trials? Any shit to watch out for?

BTW can somebody move this to miscellaneous pls.

Pandiculate
19-11-2010, 04:28 PM
I signed up to GlaxoSmithKline, they can pay up to 2000 per trial. Not all of them are drug based, although they generally pay more. If you're going to sign up they would pay me for a referral;)

grizzleb
19-11-2010, 04:33 PM
Do you need to meet certain criteria? I'm not fit and I'm slightly overweight, but my body is basically fully functioning. No health problems. Send me the contact info and I'll sign up. What is it like, worth the money? Too much hassle? Etc...

Pandiculate
19-11-2010, 04:50 PM
They take people of all sizes and ages, when you first sign up they will arrange a medical exam which you get paid for (30 I think) where they do blood tests, urine, height and weight etc. It's definitely worth it, haven't got all the info to hand as I'm at work at the moment. I'll post it when I get home.

Edit: It does take a while between the medical test and being accepted (for me at least, 2 months or so)

I was thinking of doing sperm doning aswell but when I read that the children are allowed to come and find you and it scared me off, this was all before I managed to land a job.

grizzleb
19-11-2010, 04:59 PM
Yeah I don't think I would donate sperm. Although it might be the only way I could have kids ahahah. Not sure how much money you get for that either.

martin
20-11-2010, 02:58 AM
Might need to punt my bunger if I can't get some cash soon... I think I'd rather sell my body for scientific rather than sexual purposes though. Has anyone ever partook in paid clinical trials? Any shit to watch out for?

BTW can somebody move this to miscellaneous pls.

What, the Northwick Park fiasco hasn't put you off?

Me and some mates looked into this many moons ago...around '95, Kings Hospital in Camberwell was offering 1,000 to anyone willing to have their big toe amputated and re-attached. The allergy tests were more like 90. So double that for inflation, maybe... all I know is that you'll be asked to sign a disclaimer before you get voodoo'd on, which turned me off.

And IIRC, donating sperm is like giving blood - you get a cup of tea afterwards. Making dosh per wank is an urban myth.

grizzleb
20-11-2010, 02:45 PM
Nah, if anything now is a good time to get into it. Health and safety is going to be pretty tight. And anyway, I've had a good innings so far.

Pandiculate
20-11-2010, 03:33 PM
What, the Northwick Park fiasco hasn't put you off?

Me and some mates looked into this many moons ago...around '95, Kings Hospital in Camberwell was offering 1,000 to anyone willing to have their big toe amputated and re-attached. The allergy tests were more like 90. So double that for inflation, maybe... all I know is that you'll be asked to sign a disclaimer before you get voodoo'd on, which turned me off.

And IIRC, donating sperm is like giving blood - you get a cup of tea afterwards. Making dosh per wank is an urban myth.

It's 1 in thousands, not that much of a risk really.

I saw an advert in the Big Issue that was asking for sperm, and said there was compensation. No figure was mentioned though, guess they could mean the tea.

Mr. Tea
20-11-2010, 04:50 PM
I think they pay expenses - travel and maybe loss of earnings if you've taken time out from work, kinda thing.

I can almost see it becoming a kind of retro-fetish thing for guys who have a thing for porn in obsolete (i.e. printed) media.

The Sun, hilariously, got on its high horse about NHS trusts spending (TAXPAYERS'!!!) money on porn for sperm donors...average spend on porn per trust was 21.32: http://www.badscience.net/2010/09/pornography-in-hospitals/

padraig (u.s.)
21-11-2010, 12:12 AM
Has anyone ever partook in paid clinical trials? Any shit to watch out for?


I've done three drug studies, over the course two different winters a few years ago when I was living in Philly. One at Bristol-Meyers Squibb (they have a big research center in Trenton NJ), one at a hospital in Philly, one at a hospital in Baltimore. all 3 were in-patient, all three involved actually taking drugs, though obviously as they're double-blind you don't know if you're in the control group or taking the actual drug. the BMS one was for a blood pressure thing, the one in Baltimore was for the kidney, something to do with water retention. Both of the ones done in hospitals were on contracts for pharmaceutical companies, i think the one in Philly was for Glaxo but I can't remember. all told I made about $8000 for about three and a half weeks of "work".

in my experience, first thing is to contact the people doing the study & do a phone interview. they're screening people, so my advice is not to admit to prior drug use, say you're not a smoker (unless the study asks for one), not admit to any prior health issues - obviously if you have serious health issues or you're on prescribed medication for a condition already you shouldn't be messing with studies in the first place. then you go in for a piss test and to fill out more forms. obviously, don't do drugs beforehand. that sounds like the stupidest thing in the world but every single time I went in there'd be some idiot who got DQ'd for it. they overbook, so they don't always pick you for the study either, even if you pass all the screenings. the good news if that happens is that they'll usually take you for another later study. the whole drug study business is kinda iffy that way, you never know what studies will come up and whether you'll get in. anyways, the studies themselves are pretty blase. you show up, another piss test, blood draw, they tell you the protocol. then you're stuck there for however long. there's not much to do. bring books, many. there's usually a rec room in which to watch DVDs and so on. they don't let you bring laptops, that I've seen but maybe that's changed. you can only eat the food they give you, which is invariably bad not surprisingly. you can't work out at all, which bugged the hell out of me. depending on the protocol, you have to do blood draws and/or vital signs (BP, pulse, etc) at various points. as well as taking the actual drug (or placebo, depending on what group you're in).

other than that, um - yeah, I mean, find out what it is you'll be taking. for the most part it's pretty tame, like they're not going to test new chemo regimes on healthy people or anything crazy. but it's best to check anyway. I'd never mess with anything psychotropic. the ones done at hospitals were waaay nicer, the personnel don't work for the company so they don't care about the outcome of the study so they don't bug you really. the one I did at BMS sucked, they were super uptight about everything and the actual PI was always hovering around, whereas the ones at hospitals I don't I ever saw the PI, just nurses & orderlies. in general, it's a nice way to pick up $ but there is a lot of BS to wade through & you need a bit of luck with getting into studies. I dunno, if you have more specific questions you could PM me or something. oh, and I don't have any idea how studies in England might differ from the U.S.

padraig (u.s.)
21-11-2010, 12:24 AM
oh, and of course it's inconvenient if you have school or a job or kids or anything else that might prevent you from hanging out in a hospital for week-long stretches, which is definitely reflected in the people you meet. like, sometimes there'd be a regular dude who'd just lost his job & fallen on hard times, but for the most part it was dudes who for whatever reason couldn't/wouldn't find regular jobs. nice people, I mean, just to say there's a (rather strange) subculture of people who do drug studies as their primary source of income. oh and of course you can't smoke pot for months, which cuts out a whole other segment of the populace who I'm sure would be happy to get paid to take drugs of whatever kind.

like any other industry it tends to cluster together. again I dunno about the UK but in the States there's a few centers of pharmaceutical research where you'd go if you wanted to do studies; the aforementioned Philly/NJ area, Austin TX, the Golden Triangle of North Carolina, and so on. in my experience "travel expenses" are a pretty iffy proposition. always worth asking though.

grizzleb
21-11-2010, 02:25 PM
Cheers for that padraig, all the info I've recieved thus far has been extremely vague. That certainly gives me a better idea of what I could expect if I did decide to go for this.

pattycakes
25-11-2010, 02:54 AM
i've been to a couple in london. as padraig says, there's a lot of wading. both of mine were a pain in the arse, every hour or two you had to go back to the room to lie down and wait for the nurse to come and take your blood. none of the nurses were fit either (the cheek of it) you definitely earn you cash.

mostly the people in there were south african, lots of tough afrikaaners with a couple aussies and the odd eastern european. most of them wanted to watch vin diesel movies which kind of made me feel a bit alienated at first, but eventually i got chatting with a guy from hungary who was really into chess so i basically played chess and talked shit with him the whole time. i was sharing a double room with a kiwi who was nice enough but a bit on the rugger, beer, nutz magazine tip, so convo was limited..

every trial i chose to do was a late stage like 4th or 5th. so basically the drugs had already been tested on lots of other people before. i would recommend going for one of those because the northwick park trial was a stage one iirc. early stages might pay more but yeah, no thanks.

if i think of any other useful stuff i'll post it later

mistersloane
25-11-2010, 05:13 PM
I think I'd rather sell my body for scientific rather than sexual purposes though.

Really? God, I'd much rather sell my body. There's no way in hell you'd ever get me doing the scientific studies.

outraygeous
18-02-2011, 04:52 PM
I had 2 brain scans for 70 and a prawn sandwich.

I wasnt doing anything else at the time. Tried to get into the stay over ones but because my honesty was too much, (told em I was lactose intolerant) I never got accepted.

Whilst there met a DJ who liked doing lots of K, was from OZ and his mate had banged the nurse who did the acceptance forms. He had a gluten intolerance but she looked past that.

Anyway, something to tell my grandkids one day