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theo
28-03-2005, 04:02 PM
I never rated essentials based upon hearing 'Jenny', but I just heard LAST NIGHT and that tune is heavy.
What our other essential tracks to check? What do you think of them?

Diggedy Derek
28-03-2005, 04:47 PM
Jenny was an unfortunate choice of single really- a decent track, but not a patch on their self-aggrandising anthemns Can't Bring It To Essentials and Shut Down Shop. Those tunes simply rule. Pity they've never been properly released.

Fiddy
28-03-2005, 05:02 PM
they are massive and as a crew work really well together.

boy better know
28-03-2005, 05:53 PM
they are massive

apart from jendor


(sorry)



i'm not a fan of essentials. they don't seem to have any personality. can't really fault davinche's production, but the mcs do nothing for me whatsoever.

Diggedy Derek
28-03-2005, 06:15 PM
For me, the fact that in some ways their MCs acknowledge their limitations makes them that much stronger as a unit- is it New Era who says "I might not be the best, but I'll merk any MC who wanna come test"?. This forming-as-a-unit, doing it for the team ethos makes them all the more stronger, indeed this doing it for my crew ethos is a very present theme in the lyrics- Jendor's lyrics on the Bossman special of Shut Down Shop are basically those of a hype man- "it's all about my DJ".

Tactics
28-03-2005, 07:32 PM
put it this way...if they didn't have Da'Vinche in their camp were would they be?

bun-u
28-03-2005, 09:00 PM
Agree with Derek and Fiddy...and without Davinchie they'd have Bossman, who's also an topboy producer

Tactics
28-03-2005, 09:13 PM
Agree with Derek and Fiddy...and without Davinchie they'd have Bossman, who's also an topboy producer



Ok - I wasnt aware Bossman also did tunes. Can you tell me some of the tunes he's done please?

captain easychord
28-03-2005, 09:15 PM
isn't the fact that essentials hooked up with davinche itself indicative of 'talent'? recognizing talent and collaborating?

they work better as a unit than almost any other crew IMO. they all know each others lyrics and back each other up, and bossman is BIG DJ.

originaldrum
28-03-2005, 11:51 PM
Get Over It by Essentials is a huge tune

jimbackhouse
29-03-2005, 01:01 AM
Ok - I wasnt aware Bossman also did tunes. Can you tell me some of the tunes he's done please?

Bongo Eyes I & II for starters

Bongo Eyes II (reverse) is sick! every 16 bars it switches to this really absurd lurching reverse section which sounds as if the record's grinding to a halt. it's like a lumbering metallic monster. yet to hear any mcs over it.

From hearing those 2 tracks alone i'd totally rate bossman as a producer.

Pearsall
29-03-2005, 01:06 AM
Jim, I'm sure I've got Bongo Eyes II on some radio sets I have on mp3. I could chop it out if you want to hear it?

I like Essentials, from the bit of them performing in Rhythm Division that's on both Risky Roadz and Aim High 2 they come across as a really tight crew who work well together and get things hype. Plus I'm into the fat/thin short/tall combination they have going on.

Keith P
29-03-2005, 02:00 AM
Essentials are big big BIG.

Most under rated crew IMO.

Pearsall
29-03-2005, 02:19 AM
Jim:
http://s38.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1N5D2VRC2ZBTU36HINM3JN9AO0

It's from a set by some crew called the Militant Terrorists, which I snagged off the RWD Forum a couple days ago.

jimbackhouse
29-03-2005, 02:20 AM
thanks for that! i'll check it

theo
29-03-2005, 03:41 AM
Yeah when I saw them on Aim High they def seemed a little over the top, whats the name of the really short one who is well hyped?

Also does anyone know the name of the Essentials tune that is all made out of samples from Sonic The Hedgehog? It starts with the sound thats made when Sonic is drowning. I could yousendit if people want.

Pearsall
29-03-2005, 04:15 AM
the short one is Jendor

mpc
29-03-2005, 12:12 PM
stick up the sonic track please.

luka
29-03-2005, 12:14 PM
they're not bad. i love davinche, even though he's not strictly in essentials he might was well be. i loke the little and large combination of bossman and jendor too. they look good together.

Tactics
29-03-2005, 01:08 PM
Bongo Eyes I & II for starters

Bongo Eyes II (reverse) is sick! every 16 bars it switches to this really absurd lurching reverse section which sounds as if the record's grinding to a halt. it's like a lumbering metallic monster. yet to hear any mcs over it.

From hearing those 2 tracks alone i'd totally rate bossman as a producer.


Ok. For me I still don't rate them lyrically or musically. Apart from what I was saying about Da'Vinche holding them up those two tunes you stated, for me, jus sound like wave editor mash ups or them bootleg tunes. In fact when I first heard both 'Bongo Eyes', I actually did think they were mashups lol. But good luck to them, they'll probably go far. It seems at Paperchase they have a stong work and business ethic.

theo
29-03-2005, 02:25 PM
Here it is

Sonic Tune http://s40.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0QL2MJRUGBCUE1Y1NGEA1LCYYO

ambrose
29-03-2005, 08:44 PM
big tunes are

get over it
last night
headquarters

bascially, the first 5 tracks off "stop the deck" are big big tunes

maybe they would be nothing without davinche, but who cares? davinche is making tunes for em, and i like the mcing, even though it is sort of featureless, i think thats why i like it. ive asked it before, but whos the girl who appears on some essentials tunes? i dont rememeber her on practice hrs or whatever

Tactics
29-03-2005, 08:51 PM
ive asked it before, but whos the girl who appears on some essentials tunes? i dont rememeber her on practice hrs or whatever

I think it could be Katie Pearl - now this girl can sing. I hope they don't give her Ashanti type material infused with garage for her LP.....

DJ Lioness
29-03-2005, 09:43 PM
He may also be on about Shortness, who featured on ealier Essentials material. She has left and is now in an all female collective.

Plasticman
30-03-2005, 01:54 PM
I rate Essentials - good bunch of people all working very hard too.

They don't sit back and wait for results unlike many other crews out there

owen
30-03-2005, 05:50 PM
i have an essentials tape somewhere with a girl mc on who was fantastic

obviously i like them lots, them being the only people resisting the north of the river hegemony

what is 'stop the deck'? does this mean they have a mixtape out?

ambrose
30-03-2005, 11:02 PM
yeh im thinking of shortness i think

ive seen her on one video, an old one, but havent seen any mention of her or anything since but shes pretty good

stop the deck is a mixtape of theirs


its about 1/3 good

but worthing checking out
never saw it in the shops though, i just got it off slsk

luka
23-03-2019, 01:56 AM
i have an essentials tape somewhere with a girl mc on who was fantastic

obviously i like them lots, them being the only people resisting the north of the river hegemony

what is 'stop the deck'? does this mean they have a mixtape out?

Owen Hatherley has an Essentials tape. Curious.

CrowleyHead
23-03-2019, 09:32 PM
Slackk found a Remerdee mixtape in a charity shop once, I remember.

slackk
25-03-2019, 03:37 PM
Public Demand Vol 1. Was a site called Deadstock Grime briefly, someone got hold of a load of old CDs and DVDs. Don't know how many got made but I'd never ever saw it before, so not many surely. It's not bad but does have 36 tracks.
https://www.discogs.com/Essentials-2-Presents-Remerdee-Public-Demand-Vol-1/release/4746481

I think there were four Essentials tapes including this one. Heating Vol 1 & 2, Stop The Deck, Public Demand. Anything else?