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dd528
06-01-2011, 08:59 PM
Happy New Year first of all!

I mostly lurk on here without posting, but suddenly this seemed the natural place to turn, as there's always some pretty deep musical knowledge on display on these boards. Couldn't see another thread dedicated to the topic, so here we go.

Having listened to roots and dub reggae for years I've decided it's time to start checking the music that's come out of Jamaica since 1980, which mostly means dancehall. I'm way out of my depth though, so I'm seeking any suggestions as to where to start.

I was recommended (and am enjoying) this (http://soundcloud.com/terrordanjah/terror-danjah-in-the-mix-old-skool-dancehall) Terror Danjah mix which has a lot of early and mid-90s stuff on it. Also I picked up the Sept/Oct issue of Wax Poetics which has interesting interviews with Beres Hammond, Sugar Minott, and Gregory Isaacs in it. I'm familiar with the latter's earlier (non-dancehall) work, but the rest is a black hole for me.

Those interviews have thrown up a few other artists too, but I think they're pretty limited to the period when dancehall was evolving out of earlier stuff. I'm interested in that for sure (I've been thinking about checking out one of Trojan's box sets covering that era), but that still leaves the whole of the last 20-odd years untouched. A mate has passed a copy of Sizzla's Black Woman And Child on to me, which is a starting point, I guess. Only picked it up today so I haven't had a chance to listen to it yet.

Also, I have to admit that danchall's reputation precedes it somewhat. I'm happy to give anything a listen from an academic perspective, but any records that are over-the-top with misogyny and homophobia aren't likely to get much rotation for pleasure in my house. So more righteous tips would be appreciated :D Although if anyone has anything insightful to add about slackness in Jamaican music, that's definitely a conversation I'm very interested in having, as it's not something I've really had opportunity to discuss before.

john eden
06-01-2011, 10:26 PM
Post 1980 you want Greensleeves, not Trojan.

john eden
06-01-2011, 10:37 PM
Mixes:

http://www.uncarved.org/blog/2006/08/blogariddims-4-john-eden-paul-meme-present-dancehall-pressure/

http://www.uncarved.org/blog/2005/09/on-the-wire-mix-for-your-downloading-pleasure/

http://www.uncarved.org/blog/2007/02/answer-riddim-clash-john-eden-round/

http://www.uncarved.org/blog/2010/07/new-mix-boops-specialist/

You should get copies of the Rough Guide to Reggae, Bass Culture and Wake The Town And Tell The People. In that order.

alec.tron
07-01-2011, 04:53 AM
Post 1980 you want Greensleeves, not Trojan.

There's been some good re-release-compilations on Trojan. Best of the bunch is focused on mid 80s Sleng Teng digital riddim mania too :
http://www.discogs.com/Various-Under-Me-Sleng-Teng-The-Dawning-Of-Digital-Reggae/release/2224770

As for labels other than
http://www.discogs.com/label/Greensleeves+Records
the ragga ragga ragga! compilations on there usually give a good overview of the sound of the different years from a Greensleeves perspective, although the choice of the vocal cuts seems to be a bit random...

Others with quite a few compilation/LP/12"s are/were
http://www.discogs.com/label/VP+Records
http://www.discogs.com/label/Fashion+Records

and some more prominent ones on the 7'' front
http://www.discogs.com/label/Black+Scorpio+%282%29
http://www.discogs.com/label/Penthouse+Records
http://www.discogs.com/label/Jammy%27s+Records
http://www.discogs.com/label/Volcano
http://www.discogs.com/label/XTerminator

Also worth digging for are Wackies, Jah Guidance, Firehouse, COrner Stone, RAS but there's also a lot of Lovers Rock, Reggae, Roots etc on those as well and the borders are quite blurry imo....
Therefore I'd love to see what John Eden and some of the other reggae-Phds on here would list as dancehall game-changers (as in sound changers/, seeing that dancehall is classified more or less by what's actually played/succesful in the dancehall as far as I understand it...), there's a few I have in my head which made everyone jump on a riddim structure/sound bandwagon, but my reggae/dancehall knowledge is somewhat patchworky.
c.

Simon78
07-01-2011, 08:48 AM
The Heatwave did a 25 years of Dancehall mix. 1 tune from each year (sort of)
http://www.theheatwave.co.uk/music/item/25yearsofdancehall/

Tracklist:

* Wayne Smith - Sleng Teng (1985)
* Admiral Bailey - Punaany (1986)
* Super Cat - Mud Up (1987)
* Ninjaman - More Reality (1988)
* Shabba Ranks - Wicked Inna Bed (1989)
* Cutty Ranks - Retreat (1990)
* Buju Banton - Stamina Daddy (1991)
* Chaka Demus & Pliers - Murder She Wrote (1992)
* Terror Fabulous & Nadine Sutherland - Action (1993)
* General Degree - Papa Lover (1994)
* Spragga Benz - Dem Flop (1994)
* Capleton - Tour (1995)
* Lady Saw - Sycamore Tree (1996)
* Beenie Man - Who Am I (1997)
* Mr Vegas - Heads High (Remix) (1998)
* Bounty Killer - Look (1999)
* Baby Cham - Man A Man (2000)
* Ward 21 - Don't Push It (2000)
* Sizzla - Pump Up (2001)
* Mad Cobra - Press Trigger (2001)
* Tanya Stephens - Touch Me No More (2002)
* Elephant Man - Genie Dance (2003)
* Vybz Kartel - Tek Buddy (2003)
* Sean Paul - Temperature (2004)
* Leftside & Esco - Tuck In Yu Belly (2005)
* Assassin - As A Man (2005)
* Tony Matterhorn - Dutty Wine (2006)
* Natasha - Calabria (2007)
* Mavado - So Special (2008)
* Demarco - She Can't Wait (2009)
* Busy Signal - Bare Gal (2010)

Loads of other good mixes/free downloads on their site as well.

There are some good mixes on the Hipsters Don't Dance Soundcloud page as well with tunes from last year.
http://soundcloud.com/hipsters-dont-dance

Joe Grime's show on Live FM is very good
http://soundcloud.com/joegrime

alex
07-01-2011, 09:12 AM
Unknown soulja to thread!

dd528
07-01-2011, 06:04 PM
You people rock my socks. Ta very much. I can sense a good weekend coming on...

Benny B
18-01-2011, 09:13 PM
Quick riddim ID request...

I just picked up a (sleeveless) copy of Shabba Ranks' Xtra-Naked LP for £1, and was blown away by the final track '5-F Man'. Craziest dancehall riddim I've ever heard. Cant find a clip as it seems to have been removed from youtube, but this was a big album so someone must know who produced it.

I can recommend the whole album btw (even the hip hop tracks are quite good), but that tune in particular is mental.

edit;its off the lp thats got 'ting a ling a ling' on it

baboon2004
18-01-2011, 09:58 PM
Interesting tune. Sounds a little random, but I like it. Producer is Clifton Dillon, but can't find the riddim name

http://www.riddimguide.com/tunedb/artist_Shabba%20Ranks/sortby_riddim/

baboon2004
18-01-2011, 10:29 PM
Some big tunes from 2000:

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crackerjack
18-01-2011, 10:54 PM
I was recommended (and am enjoying) this (http://soundcloud.com/terrordanjah/terror-danjah-in-the-mix-old-skool-dancehall) Terror Danjah mix which has a lot of early and mid-90s stuff on it. Also I picked up the Sept/Oct issue of Wax Poetics which has interesting interviews with Beres Hammond, Sugar Minott, and Gregory Isaacs in it. I'm familiar with the latter's earlier (non-dancehall) work, but the rest is a black hole for me.

Here's two from Gregory for starters.

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Also, I have to admit that danchall's reputation precedes it somewhat. I'm happy to give anything a listen from an academic perspective, but any records that are over-the-top with misogyny and homophobia aren't likely to get much rotation for pleasure in my house. So more righteous tips would be appreciated :D Although if anyone has anything insightful to add about slackness in Jamaican music, that's definitely a conversation I'm very interested in having, as it's not something I've really had opportunity to discuss before.


The explicit homophobia really got under way in the 90s - probably as a gesture of defiance to the western disapproval and the campaigns against Shabba and Buju (at least that was my impression - others may know more). So, while Rastas have never exactly been gay-friendly, you're much less likely to come across calls for them to be murdered if you stick to the 80s.

Oh, and get yourself a good Gussie Clarke comp, like this (http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B000VKL0DK/ref=asc_df_B000VKL0DK1795731?smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&tag=googlecouk06-21&linkCode=asn&creative=22206&creativeASIN=B000VKL0DK).

and obviously don't stop until you own this

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alec.tron
19-01-2011, 11:06 AM
The explicit homophobia really got under way in the 90s - probably as a gesture of defiance to the western disapproval and the campaigns against Shabba and Buju (at least that was my impression - others may know more). So, while Rastas have never exactly been gay-friendly, you're much less likely to come across calls for them to be murdered if you stick to the 80s.


Yeh, such a shame really as the 90s is hitting the right spot with me riddim wise... space, digital sine subs, fast chat lyrics to bridge the space/silence.
fuckery. I need a voice scrambler that keeps melody & rhythm of the voice, but gets rid of the meaning.
One example of one I found recently is here. It gets actually great from 34seconds onwards, although the sample just stops when it's about to get good... but not really playable, although it's probably one of the tamer ones...
http://www.reggaecollector.com/en/detail/index.php?number=3454

So here's a few mid 90 s riddims.

Now Thing
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Mad Lion
"Plenty more nice gals outa me slum, 1 milli on, 2 milli on...."
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nightcrawler
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And finally, Rotten Rich, here the good version, (there's another version of Rotten Rich that sounds like it sampled cringe worthy euro-dance chart hits though...), which I have some fond memories of when King Kong Sound played their kingkong special version....
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c.

droid
19-01-2011, 11:32 AM
The explicit homophobia really got under way in the 90s - probably as a gesture of defiance to the western disapproval and the campaigns against Shabba and Buju (at least that was my impression - others may know more). So, while Rastas have never exactly been gay-friendly, you're much less likely to come across calls for them to be murdered if you stick to the 80s.



I dont think thats really true. Soundsystem tapes from the 80's have tons of homophobia, and it really got going in the late 80's on vinyl, culminating in boom bye bye in '92. Im not sure you can really say that 'Western disapproval' had a huge amount to do with it either, more the general rise of slackness and attempts to get cheap forwards.

droid
19-01-2011, 11:48 AM
Quick riddim ID request...

I just picked up a (sleeveless) copy of Shabba Ranks' Xtra-Naked LP for £1, and was blown away by the final track '5-F Man'. Craziest dancehall riddim I've ever heard. Cant find a clip as it seems to have been removed from youtube, but this was a big album so someone must know who produced it.

I can recommend the whole album btw (even the hip hop tracks are quite good), but that tune in particular is mental.

edit;its off the lp thats got 'ting a ling a ling' on it

As Baboon pointed out, that was produced by Clifton 'Specialist' Dillion. IIRC, he produced all the 'dancehall' tunes on his major releases for Shabba. Dillon ran Shang records and also managed Patra and Mad Cobra in the early 90's, so he's viewed as being a bit of a starmaker. I always thought he was a bit underrated as a producer TBH.

Whats interesting about the first couple of Sony Shabba albums in particular is that they contained loads of reversions of older tunes, done again in either a fairly shite hop hop/R+B crossover style, or with a completely different dancehall version. There's something quite strange about the dancehall versions too, they have a weird sheen to them but also tend to be pretty offbeat compared to mainstream JA stuff of the time, maybe as a result of Dillon working in a plush studio with Sony engineers? Who knows?

Here's a favourite from 'a mi shabba':


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twsHGcJy2v0

'Medal And Certificate' is another killer from the same LP.

unknown soulja
19-01-2011, 12:30 PM
hi dd528,
First port of call for up-to-the-time dancehall should definitely be the heatwave. Their weekly show covers off loads of the best new stuff. Gabriel tends to do a yearly round up as well which is a good place to look for pointers on what was happening in a certain year (here's '09 for example http://tinyurl.com/6jnmddx)

Heres an incoherent list of good artists from the last couple of years which might be useful (some of these may be well known to you already but just in case):

Mavado, Vybz Kartel, TOK, Mad Cobra, Busy Signal, RDX, Blak Ryno, Gaza Kim, Spice, Demarco, Leftside & Esco, Charlie Black, Assassin, Popcaan, Twin of Twins

None of these are particularly (or consistently) conscious though and homophobic / misogynistic stuff abounds; so for more specifically conscious stuff check- Alborosie, Turbulenc, Ras Myrdhak, Michael Rose

Hope some of this is useful.

John, thanks for posting those blogariddims links, so much stuff i never copped off there but should have; think i'll do a trawl to remedy that.

unknown soulja
19-01-2011, 12:39 PM
oh and theres a semi active dancehall thread here which might be useful as well btw:
http://www.dissensus.com/showthread.php?6903-crucial-new-riddims

droid
19-01-2011, 12:59 PM
Some more blogariddims dancehall with some 90's business in:

http://www.weareie.com/2008/10/blogariddims-50-terminus.html
http://www.weareie.com/2007/02/blogariddims-16raggamortis-1.html
http://www.theheatwave.co.uk/music/item/anenglandstory
http://wayneandwax.com/?p=52.

droid
19-01-2011, 01:14 PM
Dug out that Shabba LP and gave it another listen. Here's a couple of tunes that kind of illustrate what Im talking about. The first is Specialist, the second is steely & Cleevie I think:

http://www.thefear.ie/09%20-%20Shabba%20Ranks%20-%20High%20Seat.mp3
http://www.thefear.ie/11%20-%20Shabba%20Ranks%20-%20Medal%20%26%20Certificate.mp3

Its a real shame these never came out on 7, brilliant production and fantastic lyrics and style. One of the LPs that got me into dancehall incidentally.

droid
19-01-2011, 01:21 PM
One more - killer one away rididm again:

http://www.thefear.ie/12%20-%20Shabba%20Ranks%20-%20Original%20Women.mp3

baboon2004
19-01-2011, 01:36 PM
Heres an incoherent list of good artists from the last couple of years which might be useful (some of these may be well known to you already but just in case):

Mavado, Vybz Kartel, TOK, Mad Cobra, Busy Signal, RDX, Blak Ryno, Gaza Kim, Spice, Demarco, Leftside & Esco, Charlie Black, Assassin, Popcaan, Twin of Twins

None of these are particularly (or consistently) conscious though and homophobic / misogynistic stuff abounds; so for more specifically conscious stuff check- Alborosie, Turbulenc, Ras Myrdhak, Michael Rose

John, thanks for posting those blogariddims links, so much stuff i never copped off there but should have; think i'll do a trawl to remedy that.

To add to that: from the era I know best (2003-2006), check Ce'cile and Tanya Stephens' dancehall stuff for dancehall that's definitely not misogynist. Would second Vybz Kartel because I think he's simply the best, but his lyrical content may not appeal.

All the blogariddims are big - the one done by Wayne out of Wayne and Wax is a personal favourite.

As to the homophobia, there must've been some very interesting stuff written about it. From an extremely broad, possibly crass perspective, the combination of (a) an extremely strong church antithetical to homosexuality, and (b) a situation of widespread poverty which frequently means people choose social groups to use as scapegoats/outlets fro frustrations in the absence of being able to tangibly blame the wider economic machinations that cause poverty, seem to be the beginnings of an explanation.

Benny B
19-01-2011, 05:40 PM
cheers for the knowledge Droid, I had a feeling you might know. I'd never heard of Clifton Dillon before so I found your posts very interesting. Will check out those other links you posted too.

When I listened to that 5-F man tune for the first time, I'd had a smoke and it just seemed to jump out as something quite special and odd. Futuristic even.

edit: not even gonna attempt to describe why I like it. I suppose like a lot of dancehall stuff, it shouldn't work but it just does.

alec.tron
19-01-2011, 07:38 PM
Dug out that Shabba LP and gave it another listen. Here's a couple of tunes that kind of illustrate what Im talking about. The first is Specialist

http://www.thefear.ie/09%20-%20Shabba%20Ranks%20-%20High%20Seat.mp3

damn, that one is fire. thanks for uploading & posting!
Need to keep an eye out for that album as it seems.
c.

Benny B
19-01-2011, 08:03 PM
for anyone interested, heres the shabba/specialist tune just discussed. http://www.mediafire.com/?68a9ko7rob7t8vb

Love how shabba shouts 'You flippin' fool!' at the start. Also like how the snares and weird sped up laughter sounds swirl about in the stereo field. Then you get these mad little off-key steel pan bits and heavy metal power chords that don't seem to have anything to do with each other. Somehow it works though.

baboon2004
20-01-2011, 10:26 AM
Yeah, it's really special. When the drums come in, it all starts to hang together brilliantly. Any other dancehall riddims composed from seemingly really disparate elements?

philblackpool
26-07-2013, 09:18 AM
Thought this was as good a place as any to drop in this little list of mine - got any suggestions for it?

http://www.discogs.com/lists/Favourite-Goofy-Reggae-Label-Logos/29191?page=1

luka
26-07-2013, 07:46 PM
dont listen to everyone telling you to listen to heatwave. theres nothing wrong with them but there are 10000000000 other djs that do upfront dancehall better on other stations and in other clubs that cater primarily to a reggae audience.

luka
26-07-2013, 07:48 PM
unless youre name is rodigan why be a white dancehall dj? theres no point to your life. youre not needed.

yyaldrin
06-08-2013, 11:28 AM
What is a good place to stay updated on Dancehall? I need to know when things like this are happening.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIHtx3qQfKw

crofton
06-08-2013, 08:16 PM
can't answer your question but i do really like that demarco tune! for what it's worth i picked it up on juno dl shortly after it came out, stuff does turn up there.

muser
02-10-2013, 01:58 PM
heres a little YT splurge...

Stamma kid from UK, loving the riddim


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMFn2oNVwxw

busy riding the afrobeats!!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vlsCRnoDlg

best thing i heard from ninja since he came out of jail i think


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZkZxgi6pqc

some new vybz (saying new, dont believe any of the stuff getting released is from behind bars, hes got a huge unreleased back catalogue, but yea its fun)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=oQ84yMYF4WY

& would love to hear this in the dance, huge tune


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=BBCGIQDEa8s

muser
02-10-2013, 03:24 PM
What is a good place to stay updated on Dancehall? I need to know when things like this are happening.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIHtx3qQfKw

that riddim is fire!

..I've been wanting to find the same thing, I mostly just use the big youtube channels like krish genius when im trying to catchup on dancehall or just feeling in the mood but it feels very impersonal. following people on facebook is ok aswell, still havnt come across any good online radio stations streaming from JA,. used to listen to Ujima when I lived in bristol.

Mediazempire is the big source for downloading but alot of good stuff doesnt get put up & I lose patience trawling through stuff on there.

muser
05-10-2013, 09:27 AM
matrinique destroying any fast chat attempts in JA at the mo.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=odjQpCTac5w

muser
05-10-2013, 09:28 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=4a2EdEVp8Q0

petergunn
07-10-2013, 02:54 AM
kinda grimey


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqcGGY81TN0

muser
24-10-2013, 03:04 AM
love that tune, Vegas has come back with all guns blazing the past year or so, really nice to see.

Sectionfive
18-02-2014, 03:04 PM
Rest in piece Wayne Smith http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/latestnews/Wayne--Sleng-Teng--Smith-is-dead

most wheeled tune in history

CrowleyHead
18-02-2014, 08:32 PM
Rest in piece Wayne Smith http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/latestnews/Wayne--Sleng-Teng--Smith-is-dead

most wheeled tune in history

It's amazing how much legendary music emerged both directly or inadvertently from such a ramshackle thing. Legend.

NATO
19-02-2014, 12:28 AM
Yeah "revolutionised reggae" is an understatement, to say the least.

muser
12-06-2014, 05:33 AM
really solid debut album from popcaan

https://soundcloud.com/mixpak/sets/popcaan-where-we-come-from

muser
12-06-2014, 05:49 AM
best dancehall album ive heard in years

muser
29-06-2014, 03:54 PM
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=460781174059075

yyaldrin
25-08-2014, 09:33 PM
Love the voice of this guy:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPIOHxi89Eg

And the heaviness of this beat/rhythm:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-Tt8vzkzF0

yyaldrin
22-01-2015, 06:03 PM
This is dragging me thru winter at the moment. Love this riddim and a pretty all-star line up singing over it as well!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7tGB9t7Ygs

carmen
23-03-2015, 05:37 AM
forget about Gully Bop and his one flow?

https://soundcloud.com/lyric-dvd/lyric-digital-magazinetigerwanga-gut-dub-1

carmen
23-03-2015, 09:46 AM
so we're what, 3 years into a couple new vybz kartel tracks a week? at what point do the mathematics work out such that he has to be voicemailing in tracks from prison having burned through tracks that could have been stockpiled "up to the crime". and isnt that a weird catchphrase? temporal origins - are they up to the time, or merely up to the crime?

is dancehall suffering due to everyone having to vocal B-grade stuff that was passed on in 2007 for fresher tunes? or, are new riddims being invented around vocals he originally recorded over different riddims? are both the riddims and vocals new? i know it doestn matter if theyre good but most of them dont really seem to be top notch so im going with gut-instincts that there's not a lot of mp3/voicemailing from prison going on?

edit.. whatever. let's just recycle disco (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxzzowvUqUE)

rubberdingyrapids
23-03-2015, 10:21 AM
i want to keep up to date with new dancehall. what radio show(s) dyou lot listen to?

carmen
29-03-2015, 12:20 AM
7.6.2 a niche within a niche

Nicki and Riri, a Trini and a Bajan are at the top of Global Pop, do they retain a trace of West-Indian'ness?

what do the analytics say about the grimey, foreboding dark grabba + grade folk-music of Jamaica? nobody is listening. all units plays-per-day

global hybrid w/ mega-commercial western/suburban/white edm-rave pop
210000 busy signal (https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=major+lazer+watch+out)
200000 damian marley (https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=skrillex%20marley)

quantity is there if you're not bored to tears

jamaica pop (zoukizomba luv)
40000 spice+kartel (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INAqa1PUfTk)
8000 alkaline (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FY5w2xN-lkc)
7000 tommy lee (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFsE0gayujc)
3100 busy signal (https://www.youtube.com/results?q=%22busy+signal%22+whatsapp)
3000 busy signal (https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=%22busy%20signal%22%20gal%20g ood)
3000 busy (https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=%22busy+signal%22+professiona lly)
2500 busy signal (https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=%22busy+signal%22+bedroom+bul ly)

clearly, Busy Signal despite his impeccable world-leading skill is doomed to a 3000 plays-per-hit-day when not collaborating w EDM superstars

jamaica pop (leftfield & weird)
2600 alkaline (https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=alkaline+belly)
2400 busy signal (https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=%22busy%20signal%22%20text)
600 tommy lee (https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=bu+nu+nu+tommy+lee)

tommy lee shows a huge differential between his mainstream pop and weird-shit. it's quite hard for Busy to stray far from the land of
high-quality expensive-style

wildcard (UK)
400 gappy ranks (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1ES8CtWd9c&t=40)
not bad, but why are 3rd-party remixes better? (https://soundcloud.com/brian-redman/baddest-remix-gappy-ranks)

"real" dancehall mixtapes
24 SHOKYRME (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wM6ykwMJvU&t=5m30s)
?? Deablo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNViB23UO-Y&t=33m)
28 Nicko Blast (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4l8Ss5CgIXo&t=24m48s)
5 KOREXX (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKnMd9IjEOs&t=2m32s) even endorsed by Delly Ranx. clearly a big ting

met with the same crickets as 2002 "practice hours" evening/late-night deja?

Corpsey
16-04-2015, 03:37 PM
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/Gl1CsAdfaLk" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Busy Signal - Text Message (2015)

yyaldrin
31-10-2015, 11:18 AM
Does anyone has some recommendations? Recent stuff. Tracks, mixes, anything?

sadmanbarty
31-10-2015, 12:15 PM
Here's the dancehall I've bought from the last 10 months:

Gaza Slim- Tun Up Di Ting

J Capri- Luv It

Vybz Kartel- Dancehall

HoodCelebrityy- Wine Pon It

Lady Saw- Boom Pon Buddy

Sizzla- Mad & Mean

Agent Sasco- Gossip

Spice- Needle Eye

Ishawna- Ooh La La

Top Secret Riddim is good.

In terms of of long players the only thing that comes to mind is Deablo- D’Next Day

sadmanbarty
31-10-2015, 12:32 PM
Been Bad Riddim

Ghost Town Riddim

sadmanbarty
31-10-2015, 12:48 PM
Busy Signal- Welcome

sadmanbarty
31-10-2015, 01:41 PM
Busy Signal- Bounce It

sadmanbarty
02-11-2015, 09:40 AM
Riddim's great, does anyone know what it's called?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpJj6st4G68

droid
02-11-2015, 09:49 AM
Looks like a one-away.

Gabriel put me on to this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FwraoLGZTk

mistersloane
02-11-2015, 02:57 PM
That Shokryme mixtape is fucking amazing

sadmanbarty
03-11-2015, 09:23 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdTBjuwoiXA


Bleeps:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lfe4IMsDYQ

sadmanbarty
06-11-2015, 10:15 AM
Never heard capleton do this kind of track before. To be honest, i don't think its his strong suit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdl8jur6fEk


This one has grown on me in a big way over the past couple of months:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3LDdlE-zuo

sadmanbarty
11-11-2015, 02:43 PM
Shawn Storm- Defend Yourself

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4JIgI9AeZo

sadmanbarty
12-11-2015, 01:29 PM
Tifa Stay Away Mixtape:

https://soundcloud.com/itsthetifa/stay-away-mixtape-2015

Interview about it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVvz6a3BZzw

sadmanbarty
13-11-2015, 08:18 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtLs_cm51SY

muser
13-11-2015, 01:22 PM
https://youtu.be/sJzq8eTBzos


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQPbCyp1xns


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhsyFOlSggU


https://youtu.be/hFFKWiXCx6s


https://youtu.be/or74ywNMqJ4

sadmanbarty
01-12-2015, 10:53 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtvqQjzsUCI

sadmanbarty
02-12-2015, 11:59 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9232Na54g4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKos3W8D_HQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EvzJZUgYlU

sadmanbarty
04-12-2015, 01:21 PM
Very sad, J Capri has died.

http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/latestnews/Singjay-J-Capri-dies

She made a couple of my favourite songs this year:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IO8k-111tLY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpJj6st4G68

carmen
17-12-2015, 04:26 AM
only a bit superstitious but tough to forget this tip


But I don’t call it “devil mix” anymore because when I started calling it that I started to get lots of bad luck, if you understand. The more and the more you say his name, believe it or not, he’ll come closer to you. And that is the truth, I swear I am not joking. The devil mix brought me too much luck. I was selling the devil mix of Eskimo and they were selling so fast. I bought stuff with the money, bought a car and crashed it

"Head Concussion" mentioned in every track and the label-name. banning evocative-of-horror names wont get too far down there (crash-site youtubes for J Capri convulsing as if captive-bolt stunner for the morbidly curious). will Tommy Lee's constant invoking of devil motifs catch up with him?

carmen
17-12-2015, 04:35 AM
http://i.imgur.com/DcgSi2G.jpg

muser
12-01-2016, 11:13 AM
Assasin, bunji garlin and kardinal offishall have formed a trio :cool:

https://soundcloud.com/stadicmusic/suit-of-black-she-bad-stadic-music

sadmanbarty
17-02-2016, 10:36 PM
https://soundcloud.com/mfknscrew/lofty305-totally-remix

Pandiculate
18-02-2016, 05:44 PM
Assasin, bunji garlin and kardinal offishall have formed a trio :cool:

https://soundcloud.com/stadicmusic/suit-of-black-she-bad-stadic-music

this song is really incredible

sadmanbarty
07-03-2016, 02:02 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALgtrqPg7V8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=km-ch8cVlvs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsryGByl5YY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6LGR7pxUAE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3zphZA95iM

sadmanbarty
07-03-2016, 02:39 PM
https://soundcloud.com/thegreishow/blind-without-shades

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyp_wSmevSA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPcXJl10Ooc

https://soundcloud.com/elcvpone/wfmg-prod-by-elcvpone

https://soundcloud.com/dubby-don-cloud/yaad-hut

sadmanbarty
08-03-2016, 10:18 AM
https://soundcloud.com/islandergian/glitch

sadmanbarty
14-03-2016, 08:39 PM
https://soundcloud.com/islandergian/sets/weird-dance-ep

sadmanbarty
15-03-2016, 01:20 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZft4QyCALA

yyaldrin
17-04-2016, 05:13 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpcpUYjHP7U

jackjambie
23-04-2016, 06:17 PM
love that haunted track soooo much. he truly does have the voice of an angel.

dexta daps and alkaline both playing london this summer! got my tickets...hype hype hype hype hype :cool:

jackjambie
23-04-2016, 06:33 PM
popcaan is still PISSING bangers.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tI37uhx4Cgg

jackjambie
23-04-2016, 06:46 PM
alkaline channelling normcore with the jacket and cap combo in this one.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdyKjebTj7s

yyaldrin
24-04-2016, 07:41 PM
love that haunted track soooo much. he truly does have the voice of an angel.

dexta daps and alkaline both playing london this summer! got my tickets...hype hype hype hype hype :cool:

Have played that tune so often last weeks.

And what to think about this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0FI44ej2O4

Somehow, it gives me Kuedo vibes.

luka
24-04-2016, 08:06 PM
Have played that tune so often last weeks.

And what to think about this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0FI44ej2O4

Somehow, it gives me Kuedo vibes.


WOW!!!!!!

luka
24-04-2016, 08:33 PM
kuedos kool but hes never made anything that could hold a candle to that

luka
24-04-2016, 08:41 PM
the macho man is pretty much dead in dancehall and rap in 2016. everyone is like prince now. must be hormones in the water or something. too much tofu in the diet.

sadmanbarty
24-04-2016, 09:27 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZ4w4nDPL3E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldrq1SK2-9M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ys7ykjIps9M

jackjambie
25-04-2016, 08:55 PM
Have played that tune so often last weeks.

And what to think about this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0FI44ej2O4

Somehow, it gives me Kuedo vibes.

YES!!! love this one so so much, been rinsing it for a bit now. morning, noon and night.

sexy af.

jackjambie
01-05-2016, 01:09 PM
dance starter.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78YnunN9Umg

jackjambie
01-05-2016, 01:21 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C85YvvS4dYg

jackjambie
01-05-2016, 02:32 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67NS3EAERGs

sadmanbarty
09-05-2016, 01:46 PM
https://soundcloud.com/iamsafaree/bust-it-safaree-prod-by-goodguydez

Corpsey
13-05-2016, 02:44 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_FX6UANhLs

Trawling the Rinse FM playlist and this is on the A-list.

I like what I've heard of Popcaan but I don't hear anything as distinctive about him as yer Sizzlas, Elephant Mans, Vybz Kartels, etc. Anyone help me unnastand?

CrowleyHead
14-05-2016, 03:31 PM
He makes catchy pop tracks and I don't know how consciously this is done, but he hasn't said one homophobic bar on the 60 or so tracks I've heard, which makes labels probably salivate over how much easier it is to promote him than the artists you mentioned.

muser
22-05-2016, 09:42 AM
https://soundcloud.com/soshiftymixes/springting

loving this mix

yyaldrin
09-06-2016, 08:37 PM
Not sure if this has been posted before but absolutely loving this at the moment: https://vimeo.com/164688534

minikomi
04-08-2016, 03:14 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpgNEIsCgO4

CrowleyHead
04-08-2016, 05:46 PM
Amazing

droid
09-08-2016, 10:51 AM
Nice 80's dancehall instrumental mix here. Who can name all the riddims?

https://www.mixcloud.com/HipstersDontDance/strictly-riddims-no-13-mixed-by-samrai/

yyaldrin
13-10-2016, 05:51 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWJJXL9IJfA

sadmanbarty
11-01-2017, 10:20 AM
Love the kick drum on this one, very awkward and counter to the groove in the sections with just hi hat, kick and cymbal:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hm6Hu2Ie_fs

This is the first song released in 2017 I've enjoyed:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAWTukPBGXY

yyaldrin
20-01-2017, 10:01 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCYF4Ixj3rY

sadmanbarty
11-03-2017, 11:12 AM
Pitchfork's 50 Best Dancehall Songs of All Time

http://pitchfork.com/features/lists-and-guides/10022-the-50-best-dancehall-songs-of-all-time/?page=1

luka
11-03-2017, 12:56 PM
A man called 'Edwin ' telling me what dancehall records to like.

WebEschatology
29-03-2017, 03:06 PM
Dexta Daps just put out his first album for free

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mt5rGnyMTl0

droid
10-04-2017, 09:42 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pKXR8Y4V00

luka
28-11-2017, 09:17 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5I1ajijB_2Y

this guy and dexta daps represent a kind of mini 'Tankwave' in dancehall. I love Tank so im all in favour of it.

luka
07-12-2017, 11:36 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JynIAnsTIYs

droid
07-12-2017, 12:44 PM
Junglist favourite that one.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5pu6aiHEV0

sadmanbarty
28-12-2017, 02:17 AM
Ninjaman gets life, 25 years before parole

http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/latestnews/Ninjaman_gets_life,_25_years_before_parole?profile =1228

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWjabhJPcQY

sadmanbarty
28-12-2017, 02:19 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zobAdFLmjw

yyaldrin
22-03-2018, 12:36 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSsqXUIGZLQ

yyaldrin
31-07-2018, 10:29 PM
not rly dancehall but i put it here in the hope someone will update this thread with some new bits


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPJbDZuGBzQ

yyaldrin
10-10-2018, 08:15 AM
new dexta daps, like the last tune "doh lie" most


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PIOoAaE-QA

yyaldrin
25-02-2019, 09:48 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vc5jBI0MXII