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routes
28-01-2011, 02:10 PM
http://english.aljazeera.net/watch_now/

get locked

adruu
28-01-2011, 03:50 PM
For a few seconds, radio here in ny broadcasted pure audio of street noise and chanting...reminded me of sclesi or xennaxis. I can imagine certain cable news producers telling people to put some b.s. stock music over the top to dilute.

Actually, I'm now on the hunt for audio of massive crowds and protests. Zhao?

sufi
30-01-2011, 02:23 AM
http://c.photoshelter.com/img-get/I0000dM66N9gc8gU/s/900/IMG-4808.jpg
Made in the USA -
Egyptian Intifada-Imbaba (http://cassel.photoshelter.com/gallery-image/Egyptian-Intifada-Imbaba/G0000NxTVSKl2mxw/I0000dM66N9gc8gU)

crackerjack
30-01-2011, 04:33 PM
Credit Al J - their offices have been closed by Egyptian govt, but they're still broadcasting live pics.

Sounds like the protesters have just twigged that the army may not be their friends.

This could be about get very ugly.

Sectionfive
30-01-2011, 05:25 PM
http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l213/handsblix/fox.jpg

crackerjack
30-01-2011, 05:35 PM
http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l213/handsblix/fox.jpg

this is from years back, right?

if not, then fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck

Sectionfive
30-01-2011, 06:34 PM
Nope, Israel's Def Minister is Ehud Barak (http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/meast/01/17/israel.labor/), US's is Gates.

:confused:

Sectionfive
30-01-2011, 06:36 PM
You can clearly see the Nile ffs.

crackerjack
30-01-2011, 06:57 PM
Nope, Israel's Def Minister is Ehud Barak (http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/meast/01/17/israel.labor/), US's is Gates.

:confused:

Oh yeah :o

Someone should tell 'em when you invade a country in the name of liberation it's considered good form to remember its name.

Mr. Tea
31-01-2011, 10:37 AM
http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l213/handsblix/fox.jpg

That's just beyond parody. Is Fox News trying to put The Onion out of business?

crackerjack
31-01-2011, 10:43 AM
I felt sure I'd seen this before. Here's the same map & caption in July 09.

http://thegulfblog.com/2009/07/30/foxs-map-of-the-middle-east/

droid
31-01-2011, 11:35 AM
http://assets.theatlantic.com/static/mt/assets/science/assets_c/2011/01/Page%2012_rev-thumb-600x424-41218.jpg

http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2011/01/egyptian-activists-action-plan-translated/70388/

sufi
31-01-2011, 05:10 PM
http://assets.theatlantic.com/static/mt/assets/science/assets_c/2011/01/Page%2012_rev-thumb-600x424-41218.jpg

http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2011/01/egyptian-activists-action-plan-translated/70388/
http://angryarab.blogspot.com/2011/01/egyptian-slogans.html

• ثوره ثوره في كل مكان ضد الخونه والأندال
“Revolution, revolution everywhere, against the traitors and the scoundrels”

sufi
01-02-2011, 08:42 PM
http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/the-best-egypt-protest-signs-from-around-the-world?awesm=awe.sm_5G0rg&utm_content=awesm-tweet-button-horizontal&utm_medium=awe.sm-twitter&utm_source=twitter.com

http://s-ak.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/terminal01/2011/2/1/9/enhanced-buzz-516-1296571832-0.jpg

almost gone,,,

crackerjack
02-02-2011, 04:50 PM
Looks like the empire is striking back...

Army letting Mubarak's thugs through, hundreds injured in Tahir Sq.

Now there's reports they're turning the lights out.

droid
02-02-2011, 04:58 PM
Blair is such a wanker. Someone stone him to death and burn down his house please.

crackerjack
02-02-2011, 05:06 PM
Blair is such a wanker. Someone stone him to death and burn down his house please.

What's he done? I'm mean now, specifically, not historically.

droid
02-02-2011, 05:08 PM
Tony Blair: Mubarak is 'immensely courageous and a force for good' (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/feb/02/tony-blair-mubarak-courageous-force-for-good-egypt)

crackerjack
02-02-2011, 05:12 PM
Tony Blair: Mubarak is 'immensely courageous and a force for good' (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/feb/02/tony-blair-mubarak-courageous-force-for-good-egypt)

Jesus. I can only assume he's become Israel's ambassador, now that the US is a bit too lefty for his tastes.

crackerjack
02-02-2011, 05:14 PM
Or he wants to be the neo-con Kissinger :confused:

zhao
02-02-2011, 08:21 PM
the revolution will be youtubed and soundclouded.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Te_yQR5UNs

http://soundcloud.com/djzhao/dj-zhao-immortal-egypt

DOWNLOAD TUNE (http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?atjq9x2hdn7on13)

HMGovt
03-02-2011, 09:00 AM
http://exiledonline.com/war-nerd-spartacus-live-on-al-jazeera/

Watching the pitch battle break out yesterday couldn't help thinking how mediaeval it looked. Will anything like this ever kick off in Trafalgar Sq?

baboon2004
03-02-2011, 12:25 PM
http://exiledonline.com/war-nerd-spartacus-live-on-al-jazeera/

Watching the pitch battle break out yesterday couldn't help thinking how mediaeval it looked. Will anything like this ever kick off in Trafalgar Sq?

this is the nearest you're going to get, i think:

http://c.photoshelter.com/img-get/I0000QRhCh47gBRE/s

Sectionfive
03-02-2011, 03:30 PM
http://www.broadsheet.ie/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/157620.jpg


Kicking off big time now

HMGovt
03-02-2011, 04:27 PM
this is the nearest you're going to get, i think:

http://c.photoshelter.com/img-get/I0000QRhCh47gBRE/s

Aye, that cavalry charge was better.

The scary thing, watching yesterday, was knowing that there was absolutely no restraint and no chance of intervention. And that those Molotovs were landing among people without flame retardant stormtrooper gear. They anti-gov protesters are super brave to have stuck at it overnight.

Sectionfive
03-02-2011, 08:38 PM
"Men of Interior Ministry gave me 5000 £ to bring chaos in Cairo and beat protesters" (http://f24.my/excsWJ)

stevied
04-02-2011, 01:16 PM
This is going round...Got it in my mail

http://img511.imageshack.us/img51
50

http://www.flickr.com/photos/nickbygon/5412410519/

Egypt Will Rise

First off, this image is free to use and distribute, as with all of my work, however, I want to make sure everyone knows that I used two photos for reference without obtaining proper permission.

The main image is from Reuters photojournalist Amr Abdallah Dalsh and the second one is from Reuters photojournalist Goran Tomasevic.

If any thanks are due, I would appreciate a message to both of them for their hard work and dedication. They have been laying their lives on the line to help document these historical moments, and it is with that same enthusiasm for memorializing those vital turning points towards total liberation that I have used their photographs, to create this illustration.

Here are links to their photos:

http://totallycoolpix.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/28012011_egypte_riots/egypte_02.jpg
http://totallycoolpix.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/30012011_egypt_riots_02/egypt_07.jpg
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[URL="http://totallycoolpix.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/30012011_egypt..."] (http://totallycoolpix.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/28012011_egypte_riots/egypte_02.jpg)
I hope Reuters and Mr. Dalsh and Mr. Tomasevic will understand and allow for the free distribution of this graphic. I am not seeking any profits from this image, as all of my artwork (as seen on my flickr) is all licensed under Creative Commons, share and share alike.

-Nick

P.S. If anyone has any changes they would like to be done, please email me (as I am open for feedback). Additionally, if anyone is going to print these to freely distribute or to collect cost plus labor, I would be happy to email the AI file.

Mr. Tea
04-02-2011, 01:37 PM
Stevied, the links to the photos are broken in your post, although they work from the Flickr page:

http://totallycoolpix.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/28012011_egypte_riots/egypte_02.jpg


http://totallycoolpix.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/30012011_egypt_riots_02/egypt_07.jpg

Great pics there are, too. :)

grizzleb
04-02-2011, 02:18 PM
Tony Blair is fucking CUNT.

zhao
04-02-2011, 03:24 PM
this was posted yesterday, thursday:


Today microblogger Mahmoud a.k.a @Sandmonkey was arrested. His blog was suspended but the last blog entry was the following, and please read and help spread:

Egypt, Right Now!

I don't know how to start writing this. I have been battling fatigue for not sleeping properly for the past 10 days, moving from one's friend house to another friend's house, almost never spending a night in my home, facing a very well funded and well organized ruthless regime that views me as nothing but an annoying bug that its time to squash will come. The situation here is bleak to say the least.

It didn't start out that way. On Tuesday Jan 25 it all started peacefully, and against all odds, we succeeded to gather hundreds of thousands and get them into Tahrir Square, despite being attacked by Anti-Riot Police who are using sticks, tear gas and rubber bullets against us. We managed to break all of their barricades and situated ourselves in Tahrir. The government responded by shutting down all cell communication in Tahrir square, a move which purpose was understood later when after midnight they went in with all of their might and attacked the protesters and evacuated the Square. The next day we were back at it again, and the day after. Then came Friday and we braved their communication blackout, their thugs, their tear gas and their bullets and we retook the square. We have been fighting to keep it ever since.

That night the government announced a military curfew, which kept getting shorter by the day, until it became from 8 am to 3 pm. People couldn't go to work, gas was running out quickly and so were essential goods and money, since the banks were not allowed to operate and people were not able to collect their salary. The internet continued to be blocked, which affected all businesses in Egypt and will cause an economic meltdown the moment they allow the banks to operate again. We were being collectively punished for daring to say that we deserve democracy and rights, and to keep it up, they withdrew the police, and then sent them out dressed as civilians to terrorize our neighborhoods. I was shot at twice that day, one of which with a semi-automatic by a dude in a car that we the people took joy in pummeling. The government announced that all prisons were breached, and that the prisoners somehow managed to get weapons and do nothing but randomly attack people. One day we had organized thugs in uniforms firing at us and the next day they disappeared and were replaced by organized thugs without uniforms firing at us. Somehow the people never made the connection.

Despite it all, we braved it. We believed we are doing what's right and were encouraged by all those around us who couldn't believe what was happening to their country. What he did galvanized the people, and on Tuesday, despite shutting down all major roads leading into Cairo, we managed to get over 2 million protesters in Cairo alone and 3 million all over Egypt to come out and demand Mubarak's departure. Those are people who stood up to the regime's ruthlessness and anger and declared that they were free, and were refusing to live in the Mubarak dictatorship for one more day. That night, he showed up on TV, and gave a very emotional speech about how he intends to step down at the end of his term and how he wants to die in Egypt, the country he loved and served. To me, and to everyone else at the protests this wasn't nearly enough, for we wanted him gone now. Others started asking that we give him a chance, and that change takes time and other such poppycock. Hell, some people and family members cried when they saw his speech. People felt sorry for him for failing to be our dictator for the rest of his life and inheriting us to his Son. It was an amalgam of Stockholm syndrome coupled with slave mentality in a malevolent combination that we never saw before. And the Regime capitalized on it today.

Today, they brought back the internet, and started having people calling on TV and writing on facebook on how they support Mubarak and his call for stability and peacefull change in 8 months. They hung on to the words of the newly appointed government would never harm the protesters, whom they believe to be good patriotic youth who have a few bad apples amongst them. We started getting calls asking people to stop protesting because "we got what we wanted" and "we need the country to start working again". People were complaining that they miss their lives. That they miss going out at night, and ordering Home Delivery. That they need us to stop so they can resume whatever existence they had before all of this. All was forgiven, the past week never happened and it's time for Unity under Mubarak's rule right now.

To all of those people I say: NEVER! I am sorry that your lives and businesses are disrupted, but this wasn't caused by the Protesters. The Protesters aren't the ones who shut down the internet that has paralyzed your businesses and banks: The government did. The Protesters weren't the ones who initiated the military curfew that limited your movement and allowed goods to disappear off market shelves and gas to disappear: The government did. The Protesters weren't the ones who ordered the police to withdraw and claimed the prisons were breached and unleashed thugs that terrorized your neighborhoods: The government did. The same government that you wish to give a second chance to, as if 30 years of dictatorship and utter failure in every sector of government wasn't enough for you. The Slaves were ready to forgive their master, and blame his cruelty on those who dared to defy him in order to ensure a better Egypt for all of its citizens and their children. After all, he gave us his word, and it's not like he ever broke his promises for reform before or anything.

Then Mubarak made his move and showed them what useful idiots they all were.

You watched on TV as "Pro-Mubarak Protesters" – thugs who were paid money by NDP members by admission of High NDP officials- started attacking the peaceful unarmed protesters in Tahrir square. They attacked them with sticks, threw stones at them, brought in men riding horses and camels- in what must be the most surreal scene ever shown on TV- and carrying whips to beat up the protesters. And then the Bullets started getting fired and Molotov cocktails started getting thrown at the Anti-Mubarak Protesters as the Army standing idly by, allowing it all to happen and not doing anything about it. Dozens were killed, hundreds injured, and there was no help sent by ambulances. The Police never showed up to stop those attacking because the ones who were captured by the Anti-mubarak people had police ID's on them. They were the police and they were there to shoot and kill people and even tried to set the Egyptian Museum on Fire. The Aim was clear: Use the clashes as pretext to ban such demonstrations under pretexts of concern for public safety and order, and to prevent disunity amongst the people of Egypt. But their plans ultimately failed, by those resilient brave souls who wouldn't give up the ground they freed of Egypt, no matter how many live bullets or firebombs were hurled at them. They know, like we all do, that this regime no longer cares to put on a moderate mask. That they have shown their true nature. That Mubarak will never step down, and that he would rather burn Egypt to the ground than even contemplate that possibility.

In the meantime, State-owned and affiliated TV channels were showing coverage of Peaceful Mubarak Protests all over Egypt and showing recorded footage of Tahrir Square protest from the night before and claiming it's the situation there at the moment. Hundreds of calls by public figures and actors started calling the channels saying that they are with Mubarak, and that he is our Father and we should support him on the road to democracy. A veiled girl with a blurred face went on Mehwer TV claiming to have received funding by Americans to go to the US and took courses on how to bring down the Egyptian government through protests which were taught by Jews. She claimed that AlJazeera is lying, and that the only people in Tahrir square now were Muslim Brotherhood and Hamas. State TV started issuing statements on how the people arrested Israelis all over Cairo engaged in creating mayhem and causing chaos. For those of you who are counting this is an American-Israeli-Qatari-Muslim Brotherhood-Iranian-Hamas conspiracy. Imagine that. And MANY PEOPLE BOUGHT IT. I recall telling a friend of mine that the only good thing about what happened today was that it made clear to us who were the idiots amongst our friends. Now we know.

zhao
04-02-2011, 03:31 PM
continued


Now, just in case this isn't clear: This protest is not one made or sustained by the Muslim Brotherhood, it's one that had people from all social classes and religious background in Egypt. The Muslim Brotherhood only showed up on Tuesday, and even then they were not the majority of people there by a long shot. We tolerated them there since we won't say no to fellow Egyptians who wanted to stand with us, but neither the Muslims Brotherhood not any of the Opposition leaders have the ability to turn out one tenth of the numbers of Protesters that were in Tahrir on Tuesday. This is a revolution without leaders. Three Million individuals choosing hope instead of fear and braving death on hourly basis to keep their dream of freedom alive. Imagine that.

The End is near. I have no illusions about this regime or its leader, and how he will pluck us and hunt us down one by one till we are over and done with and 8 months from now will pay people to stage fake protests urging him not to leave power, and he will stay "because he has to acquiesce to the voice of the people". This is a losing battle and they have all the weapons, but we will continue fighting until we can't. I am heading to Tahrir right now with supplies for the hundreds injured, knowing that today the attacks will intensify, because they can't allow us to stay there come Friday, which is supposed to be the game changer. We are bringing everybody out, and we will refuse to be anything else than peaceful. If you are in Egypt, I am calling on all of you to head down to Tahrir today and Friday. It is imperative to show them that the battle for the soul of Egypt isn't over and done with. I am calling you to bring your friends, to bring medical supplies, to go and see what Mubarak's gurantees look like in real life. Egypt needs you. Be Heroes.

stevied
04-02-2011, 04:43 PM
Mr Tea, thank you for posting the pics. I have fixed the links now but it is better to see the images on the page on your post. I think the designer adapted them well for use in the poster. Mubarak must go! Thanks!

zhao
04-02-2011, 07:29 PM
rest of the photos are here: http://totallycoolpix.com/2011/02/egypt-protests-anti-mubarak-vs-pro-mubarak-riots/

zhao
05-02-2011, 12:29 PM
For a few seconds, radio here in ny broadcasted pure audio of street noise and chanting...reminded me of sclesi or xennaxis. I can imagine certain cable news producers telling people to put some b.s. stock music over the top to dilute.

Actually, I'm now on the hunt for audio of massive crowds and protests. Zhao?

sorry only saw this now. i sampled loads of crowds and chanting and speeches for the mash-tune i made on the previous page from youtube. quality is bad but there are a lot if you search for them... for sure very interesting sonics going on with things like this and on this scale... Chris Watson should be in Tahiri square with his armory of mics, would surely result in an amazing album of field recordings.

zhao
05-02-2011, 12:30 PM
i'm sure everyone has seen this ruthless and seemingly senseless violent episode already... i hope truth will come out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2q7A-v89hEI

sufi
05-02-2011, 01:28 PM
sorry only saw this now. i sampled loads of crowds and chanting and speeches for the mash-tune i made on the previous page from youtube. quality is bad but there are a lot if you search for them... for sure very interesting sonics going on with things like this and on this scale... Chris Watson should be in Tahiri square with his armory of mics, would surely result in an amazing album of field recordings.
if i deciphered correctly the arabic at 3.10 on your track through the autotunage it says:
lil sabr hudood - there is a limit to patience

zhao
05-02-2011, 01:59 PM
if i deciphered correctly the arabic at 3.10 on your track through the autotunage it says:
lil sabr hudood - there is a limit to patience

thanks sufi. after some confusion and conflicting translations (from the arabic speakers i was able to find standing in front of the S-Bahn station, and making them listen to the passage on my ipod :) ) i think i finally got an exact translation from a friend:

"It's true that patience has limits!! pray Al-Fajr on the ruins and say ... say !! To die for our land!!"

which is OK with me. balances out the other voice which came right before, which says "this is not a war about guns and bombs", and gives another perspective.

this experience has taught me to be much more careful in the future... the audio came from a protest video - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncO5qSWINqI - from 1:35 - i was in such a hurry to get the thing done and up, and the images in the video made me think that it is probably for sure a positive message. i am lucky that the voice is not saying something much more objectionable (such as anti-semitism).

Sectionfive
06-02-2011, 03:22 PM
Glenn Beck just claimed India and Ireland are about to fall to Islamic revolution in a wave spreading from Egypt...........

Mr. Tea
07-02-2011, 11:41 AM
Tony Blair is fucking CUNT.

Yeah, his line about Mubarak and Israel is just unbelievable. Well, actually it isn't really. It's a great principle, though, very adaptable: "Peter Sutcliffe may have murdered a dozen women with a hammer, which isn't nice exactly, but OTOH he deserves credit for not making any trouble with Israel..."

S5, you got a link for that Beck quote? That guy just keeps going from strength to strength, I mean we've got Clarkson and Littlejohn but he's in a different league altogether.

routes
07-02-2011, 11:44 AM
Mubarak's personal fortune estimated to be $70billion .. $70billion

crackerjack
07-02-2011, 01:04 PM
S5, you got a link for that Beck quote? That guy just keeps going from strength to strength, I mean we've got Clarkson and Littlejohn but he's in a different league altogether.

Guardian did a round-up of US right-wing commentary on Egypt early last week, in its blog/comments section, somewhere (helpful aren't i?).

Today's running news making depressing reading. Lots of targeted arrests, while keeping Tahrir itself fairly orderly. Looks like attempt to take the steam out of the revolution without (visibly) crushing it. We'll see how quickly US/EU resort to nothing-to-see-here/our-bastard default mode.

Sectionfive
07-02-2011, 01:57 PM
Beggars belief

Starts here,


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byAbXPMP6ts

Then here (http://www.mediaite.com/tv/glenn-beck-explains-egypt-upheaval-with-smiley-faces-and-army-of-chalk-boards/)

baboon2004
07-02-2011, 03:23 PM
1:53 is staggering.

Sectionfive
07-02-2011, 03:39 PM
I think the basic message is, don't watch the news or try and find out anything ever.

baboon2004
07-02-2011, 04:17 PM
I'd quite like to see Glenn Beck replace Andy Gray on Sky Sports Special. God only knows what he'd have made of Arsenal's second half collapse against Newcastle United.

Sectionfive
07-02-2011, 04:22 PM
Arsenal's second half collapse against Newcastle United.

Dark forces of socialist homosexuality surely?

crackerjack
07-02-2011, 05:03 PM
Govt just announced 15% pay rise for public sector workers.

Hope people over here are taking note...

Sectionfive
08-02-2011, 11:24 AM
http://www.darkpolitricks.com/2011/02/american-warships-heading-to-egypt/

zhao
08-02-2011, 12:36 PM
what do people think about this stuff conservative media and the Jerusalem Post is saying about the movement being partially US backed?

http://www.jpost.com/MiddleEast/Article.aspx?id=205706

Mr. Tea
08-02-2011, 01:07 PM
Sounds doubtful - Western powers are generally pro-Mubarak (c.f. Blair!), aren't they? And I doubt the Americans would want to incite the kind of popular revolt that could end up putting Islamists in charge of the country.

zhao
08-02-2011, 01:56 PM
that's pretty much what i think as well. while the wikileaks info about the one guy attending some kind of seminar in NYC might be true, i think its relevance in the bigger scheme is likely blown way out of proportion. much like the claim that the whole thing is lead by the Muslim Brotherhood -- all attempts to discredit what is fundamentally a people's revolt.

crackerjack
08-02-2011, 02:49 PM
Sounds doubtful - Western powers are generally pro-Mubarak (c.f. Blair!), aren't they? And I doubt the Americans would want to incite the kind of popular revolt that could end up putting Islamists in charge of the country.

I don't doubt these meetings took place – embassy staff routinely meet people they consider influential, or potentially influential in the future – but it'd be a huge leap from there to suggest the protests are US-backed, let alone orchestrated. The US is obviously embarrassed by its closeness to nipple-clampers and bollock-chargers, and not so stupid they don't realise the extent to which it undermines their soft power. Problem is they regard democracy as admirable in principle, but a lot less important than anti-Islamism and peace with Israel in practice.

alex
08-02-2011, 03:07 PM
http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l213/handsblix/fox.jpg

WTF!!!

Mr. Tea
08-02-2011, 03:40 PM
Well it would hardly be the first time the US has taken a, shall we say, pragmatic approach to the groups it deals with it internationally. I guess the optimal outcome for them would be the installation of a democratic but still US-friendly regime, which in my inexpert opinion sounds quite unlikely.

Sectionfive
08-02-2011, 04:30 PM
Fox News Crew Beaten And Seriously Injured (http://www.newshounds.us/2011/02/03/fox_news_crew_beaten_and_seriously_injured_in_egyp t.php)

crackerjack
08-02-2011, 04:53 PM
http://33revolutionsperminute.wordpress.com/2011/02/08/the-revolution-will-be-televised-on-al-jazeera/

zhao
09-02-2011, 09:40 AM
i just made a video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Te_yQR5UNs) for the Egypt Revolution Dub.


Fox News Crew Beaten And Seriously Injured (http://www.newshounds.us/2011/02/03/fox_news_crew_beaten_and_seriously_injured_in_egyp t.php) after being attacked by pro-Hosni Mubarak supporters yesterday. oh the irony!

Sectionfive
09-02-2011, 12:41 PM
after being attacked by pro-Hosni Mubarak supporters yesterday. oh the irony!

Yeah, I was going to say they were trying to suppress news but...

Sectionfive
09-02-2011, 02:43 PM
The people leading the movement are all Israeli and US operatives, who live on Kentucky Fried Chicken....

- Mubarak

stevied
10-02-2011, 10:44 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLAOgOr3kAI

Track is simply called "#Jan25". Produced by Sami Matar, a Palestinian-American composer from Southern California, and featuring Freeway, The Narcicyst, Omar Offendum, HBO Def Poet Amir Sulaiman, and Canadian R&B vocalist Ayah.

crackerjack
10-02-2011, 09:22 PM
As non-resignations go, that was fucking intense.

God knows what happens in the next few days. Just hope the army is worth even an ounce of the esteem we're told the Egyptian people hold for them.

Sectionfive
11-02-2011, 04:30 PM
http://www.foreignpolicy.com/files/fp_uploaded_images/110209_4_108938809.jpg

crackerjack
11-02-2011, 04:36 PM
watching al jazeera, there;s no words to describe this

@sandmonkey doing a good job of it tho

Sectionfive
11-02-2011, 04:40 PM
Euphoria, must be amazing. :D


The people on the streets, and the city within a city they have made in Tahrir, are a power in its own right. Tahrir is able to call the country to a halt. It has in a few days its own complex interlocking organisational forms, providing food, water, blankets, providing latrines, clinics and hospitals, security and defence (staff from the M o D take part), groups of constitutional lawyers working on a new constitution, press corps, poets.



According to article 84 of the Egyptian constitution, if the president steps down, the speaker of the People's Assembly shall temporarily assume the presidency. Secondly, a new president shall be chosen within a maximum period of 60 days from the date of the vacancy of the presidential office. It is not clear if this will apply if the Higher Military Council is in charge of the nation's affairs.

crackerjack
11-02-2011, 04:43 PM
http://www.youtube.com/aljazeeraenglish

Sectionfive
12-02-2011, 02:49 PM
http://www.politicalworld.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=90&d=1297473157

Sectionfive
13-02-2011, 01:48 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29NffzEh2b0

Sectionfive
16-02-2011, 12:29 AM
smh

http://www.debbieschlussel.com/33031/how-muslims-celebrate-victory-egypts-peaceful-moderate-democratic-protesters/comment-page-1/#comment-484756

Sick Boy
16-02-2011, 06:58 AM
smh

http://www.debbieschlussel.com/33031/how-muslims-celebrate-victory-egypts-peaceful-moderate-democratic-protesters/comment-page-1/#comment-484756

Wow, you don't even have to disagree with the sentiment of that post to fail to see how any of it makes sense. I suppose the sentiment is really what counts at the end of the day though, as far as what she is trying to accomplish is concerned. You really don't have to do much to get a decent job as a political commentator, do you?

Mr. Tea
16-02-2011, 09:18 AM
smh

http://www.debbieschlussel.com/33031/how-muslims-celebrate-victory-egypts-peaceful-moderate-democratic-protesters/comment-page-1/#comment-484756

Haha, gotta love the big advert for holidays in Israel smack bang in the middle of the piece. Talk about wearing your allegiance on your sleeve.

crackerjack
16-02-2011, 03:01 PM
smh

http://www.debbieschlussel.com/33031/how-muslims-celebrate-victory-egypts-peaceful-moderate-democratic-protesters/comment-page-1/#comment-484756

I didn't get far past her description of Egyptians as "animals". Who is this Coulter wannabe?

droid
17-02-2011, 10:10 AM
She's been around for years. Kind of like a white trash coulter.

http://smearcasting.com/smear_schlussel.html

Sectionfive
17-02-2011, 08:52 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weHK5zHxbls

I don't even know what that is

Sectionfive
17-02-2011, 10:27 PM
On AlJazeera there Patrick Clanwilliam just said protesters in Bahrain are putting the F1 race at risk.

Dr Awesome
20-02-2011, 11:54 PM
On AlJazeera there Patrick Clanwilliam just said protesters in Bahrain are putting the F1 race at risk.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9p6GQ7S51A

Zekk
21-02-2011, 09:38 PM
Oh no, not the F1 race.

To all of you who read Cyclonopedia, I wonder what Reza Negarestani would say about the recent Middle East events.

crackerjack
21-02-2011, 09:49 PM
Apparently this is a response to current events in Libya.

Can anyone confirm/translate?

<iframe title="YouTube video player" width="560" height="349" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/aojjN96r2dk" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

arses, here's the link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aojjN96r2dk


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aojjN96r2dk

adruu
22-02-2011, 03:35 AM
Basiji getting their ass beat.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxRrpYcNL-c

crackerjack
22-02-2011, 04:49 PM
Think it's safe to say after watching that that Gadhafi is way past barking. Completely Southend in fact (just a little A13 joke there).

Sectionfive
22-02-2011, 05:30 PM
Plenty of warships scrambling around the Med now.
Seen reports last night that extra US Navy ships have been brought in to 'trail pirates' in the Arabian Sea.
NATO air bases in Italy have been put on maximum alert last night.

crackerjack
22-02-2011, 05:37 PM
Good. UN should declare no-fly zone over Libya before Gadhafi bombs the crap out of his own people any further.

sufi
22-02-2011, 05:49 PM
Apparently this is a response to current events in Libya.

Can anyone confirm/translate?

<iframe title="YouTube video player" width="560" height="349" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/aojjN96r2dk" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

arses, here's the link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aojjN96r2dk


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aojjN96r2dk

video's titled "appeal to the libyan yooth"
the stats at the beginning are comparative income, poverty etc with egypt and tunisia

sufi
22-02-2011, 05:51 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5rAmFqfF1U&feature=related
shaabollah on the egyptian revolution (about time!)

crackerjack
22-02-2011, 05:59 PM
thanx Sufi

sufi
22-02-2011, 06:05 PM
Think it's safe to say after watching that that Gadhafi is way past barking. Completely Southend in fact (just a little A13 joke there).
this was a classic daffy bonkers moment, compared to husny & bin ali's over-formal stylings,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weY5Lht2UAI
libya tv (known as the hedgehog channel due to it's rather spiky logo http://www.casavie.com/Tv/libya1.gif) touted it as a '...live address from the residence of the brother revolutionary...' preceded by martial dramas, cute military ladies singing etc, then it was like 'well yeah i was down there with the youth, it was raining, but i'm not in venezuala innit' 20 seconds of pure ideosyncratic brute surrealism with a brolly
he leaves it to his slimy son (saif al islam aka saif all ijram - the criminal) to drop terror threats of civil war & chaos
& even less amusingly
i've been hearing some real nastiness going on with the way the regime in libya seems to be encouraging interracial violence by protestors against black libyans, which already has a long history but is exacerbated by the stories of african mercenaries etc... :(

Sectionfive
22-02-2011, 06:46 PM
Libya, oil prices, mercenaries and UniCredit (http://golemxiv-credo.blogspot.com/2011/02/libya-oil-prices-mercenaries-and.html)

Highly recommend that blog to anyone interested in the markets and murky bank dealings btw
Its really good/informed.

Sectionfive
22-02-2011, 06:59 PM
Iranian warships receive permission from Egypt to go through Suez canel.

crackerjack
22-02-2011, 07:22 PM
Libya, oil prices, mercenaries and UniCredit (http://golemxiv-credo.blogspot.com/2011/02/libya-oil-prices-mercenaries-and.html)

Highly recommend that blog to anyone interested in the markets and murky bank dealings btw
Its really good/informed.

Nice link, ta. Italian Stock Exchange closed due to "technical hitch"...:slanted:

sufi
22-02-2011, 09:24 PM
Nice link, ta. Italian Stock Exchange closed due to "technical hitch"...:slanted:
next up
http://media.sbs.com.au/news/upload_media/site_1_rand_274146725_berlusconi_protest_b_getty.j pg

petergunn
23-02-2011, 09:31 AM
this was a classic daffy bonkers moment, compared to husny & bin ali's over-formal stylings,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weY5Lht2UAI
libya tv (known as the hedgehog channel due to it's rather spiky logo http://www.casavie.com/Tv/libya1.gif) touted it as a '...live address from the residence of the brother revolutionary...' preceded by martial dramas, cute military ladies singing etc, then it was like 'well yeah i was down there with the youth, it was raining, but i'm not in venezuala innit' 20 seconds of pure ideosyncratic brute surrealism with a brolly
he leaves it to his slimy son (saif al islam aka saif all ijram - the criminal) to drop terror threats of civil war & chaos
& even less amusingly
i've been hearing some real nastiness going on with the way the regime in libya seems to be encouraging interracial violence by protestors against black libyans, which already has a long history but is exacerbated by the stories of african mercenaries etc... :(

we all know Quaddafi (gaddafi? Kaddafi?) has always been touched in the head, but he seems to be reveling in it now...

http://www.sanfranciscosentinel.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/gaddafi-feb-21-1.jpg
http://www.anorak.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/gaddafi-nuts.jpg

he looks so fucking eccentric...

like a jacques tati character or a james bond villian... or maybe a bit player in a wes anderson movie...

stevied
23-02-2011, 01:10 PM
Good piece by Tariq Ali in the Guardian today with the catchy title, "This is an Arab 1848. But US hegemony is only dented." It ends with this poem by the Iraqi poet Muddafar al-Nawab:


… Mubarik, Mubarik,
Wealth and good health
Fax the news to the UN.
Camp after Camp and David,
Father of all your Camps.
Damn your fathers
Rotten Lot;
The stench of your bodies floods your nostrils …
O Make-Believe Summit
Leaders
May your faces be blackened;
Ugly your drooping bellies
Ugly your fat arses
Why the surprise
That your faces resemble both ...
Summits … summits … summits
Goats and sheep gather,
Farts with a tune
Let the Summit be
Let the Summit not be
Let the Summit decide;
I spit on each and every one of you
Kings … Sheikhs … Lackeys …


http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/feb/22/arab-1848-us-hegemony-dented


Also worth reading Adam Shatz's "After Egypt (http://www.lrb.co.uk/2011/02/19/adam-shatz/after-egypt)" in the LRB.


And thanks very much for the reference to Cyclonopedia. I have never read it but will check it out now.


Thanks!

crackerjack
23-02-2011, 01:43 PM
This is good for recent history - old doc about Sadat, and why the Egyptians didn't show for his funeral.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/adamcurtis/2011/02/sadats_dat.html

crackerjack
23-02-2011, 02:44 PM
Reports in Libya that 2 airmen bailed from their plane mid-air rather than bomb Benghazi.

sufi
23-02-2011, 03:24 PM
he looks so fucking eccentric...
http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/179851_191152744240554_175934182429077_524788_5422 043_n.jpg
not to mention shabby

Leo
24-02-2011, 03:48 PM
http://www.businessinsider.com/qaddafi-gaddafi-kadafi-qadaffi-libya-spelling-2011-2

name that dictator! (no, really, what's his name?)

Mr. Tea
26-02-2011, 03:59 PM
Just got back from a few days visiting a mate in Beirut. Lebanon seems to have narrowly avoided a widespread popular uprising - there was a vote of no confidence in the government in the new year and some kind of caretaker government is apparently in charge; there were a couple of days last month when it looks like things were going to get hairy, extra military presence in the streets and people afraid to go outside, but that seems to have subsided for the time being. The main gripe there is not so much absolute oppression or poverty as such but the endemic corruption; I heard an estimated figure of US$11B being embezzled each year by the previous govt. Still very deep social/religious divisions despite the end of the civil war, plus the ever-present threat of another Israeli attack...

Goes without saying everyone is paying rapt attention to events elsewhere in the ME/N Africa.

Edit: Sorry, I'll stop pretending to be Dissensus's Middle East correspondent now. But it was interesting being somewhere that's kind of on the periphery of all this turbulence. The guy I stayed with is coming up to the end of his current contract and is looking at jobs in Egypt next...

mrfaucet
07-03-2011, 08:09 PM
Has anyone been following the 'Jasmine revolution' events in China? Quite an interesting take on it here - http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2011/03/dont-dismiss-a-jasmine-moment-in-china/72103/ - although I wouldn't agree with him entirely.

sufi
27-03-2011, 01:45 PM
http://a.yfrog.com/img610/3470/p85vl.jpg

sufi
07-04-2011, 05:07 PM
not entirely sure this is in good taste but nevertheless
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Trz6G9hc4Fk
many many remixes of gadaffi speech all over youtube by now,

what you need to know is 'zanga zanga, dar dar, bait bait,' means 'street by street, house by house, room by room,' as in "we will massacre the residents of benghazi...."

craner
16-04-2011, 03:15 PM
Me, on Bashar Assad. (http://kirkpatrickmission.blogspot.com/2011/04/syria-unsprung-bashar-al-assad-and-arab.html)

sufi
16-04-2011, 11:52 PM
Me, on Bashar Assad. (http://kirkpatrickmission.blogspot.com/2011/04/syria-unsprung-bashar-al-assad-and-arab.html)
excellent piece ollie, deftly perceptive and beautifully written, too short tho!
& i'd like to hear some more of your thoughts on how neatly the girl from acton links hizbollah to jpmorgan.... :)

sufi
16-04-2011, 11:55 PM
& i want to know more about al-jazeera's role in the new arab revolt - the early optimistic misrepresentation of libya as a done deal, the lack of coverage of bahrain, morocco, & the monarchies... and the network's effect on the momentum of the uprisings, as per the title of this thread...
what do you reckon/recommend?

http://www.tlaxcala-int.org/upload/gal_2973.jpg

craner
20-04-2011, 06:25 PM
Thanks, Ed!

There was an article about al-Jazeera in the Telegraph magazine a couple of weeks ago, with Ghida Fakhry looking painfully pretty on the cover -- she and her colleagues sounding very hubristic, which is fair enough. I watch the English language version of al-Jazeera all the time, and there's no doubt it fanned the flames in Tunisia and Egypt. Qatar is the canniest of the lot -- there's nobody willing to reveal the dirty secrets or rock the boat!

stevied
21-04-2011, 11:41 AM
Yes, Al-Jazeera fanning the flames of revolt is the right phrase, but they certainly didn't start the fire. From the latest NLR:

The reach of Al-Jazeera, the arrival of Facebook or Twitter have facilitated but could not have founded a new spirit of insurgency. The single spark that started the prairie fire suggests the answer. Everything began with the death in despair of a pauperized vegetable vendor, in a small provincial town in the hinterland of Tunisia. Beneath the commotion now shaking the Arab world have been volcanic social pressures: polarization of incomes, rising food prices, lack of dwellings, massive unemployment of educated—and uneducated—youth, amid a demographic pyramid without parallel in the world. In few other regions is the underlying crisis of society so acute, nor the lack of any credible model of development, capable of integrating new generations, so plain.

Full article here:

http://www.newleftreview.org/?page=article&view=2883

Thanks!

sufi
07-07-2011, 08:51 PM
Good God!
Ali Abdullah reappears after injuries in a rebel attack as a proper supervillain,
http://english.aljazeera.net/mritems/Images/2011/7/7/20117717310187734_20.jpg
truly & chillingly monstrous :eek:

sufi
15-07-2011, 11:58 PM
http://inanities.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/SCAF-statement.png

Latest Junta Pronouncement FAITHFULLY TRANSLATED by Sarah Carr (http://inanities.org/2011/07/general-fingery/)

sufi
22-07-2011, 12:43 AM
Free downloadable revolutionary stencil booklet
http://ganzeer.com/PDFbooks/stencil_booklet1.pdf

by ganzeer (http://twitter.com/#!/ganzeer) via http://www.arabawy.org/ (3arabawy)

Sectionfive
31-07-2011, 08:13 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnkUxWn9hRc

Grim weekend in Syria
Good round here on storyful http://storyful.com/stories/1000005936

Sectionfive
03-08-2011, 11:05 PM
Crowds watching the Mubarak trial

http://www.flickr.com/photos/maggieosama/6006654380/in/photostream/

sufi
20-08-2011, 11:20 PM
gadaffi brigades comms hacked & broadcast live on aljaz
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okkhrTR8rjI&feature=player_embedded#!

Sectionfive
23-08-2011, 07:38 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxmjS4s1Nls

craner
24-08-2011, 06:50 PM
I spent an evening in the company of Moussa Ibrahim in 2004 and he was an intelligent, refined, open-minded man, interested and versed in the pluralistic, tolerant traditions of Islam and its ties with Judaism and Christianity. He had a grotty wife, though -- an angry, snotty, pale German convert to Islam who insisted on aggravating my gentle friend Sean Shapiro about Israel when he was simply trying to enjoy his discussion about Sufism with Moussa. (It was an exchange semi-fictionalised here (http://www.drunkenbastardman.co.za/hell/hell3.htm).)

Having not heard about or seen Moussa since then, we were pretty amazed to when he turned up on TV in March, fronting the regime. We're sort of hoping he gets out of this mess in one piece, despite everything. We assume he is being paid an awful lot of money to do this job.

Sectionfive
24-10-2011, 07:01 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxWvgASA_Q4

Sectionfive
22-11-2011, 12:26 AM
http://s1-02.twitpicproxy.com/photos/large/451582217.jpg


Next of kin phone numbers. Tahrir

sufi
01-02-2012, 10:46 PM
آ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YJ2mpQAJcA&feature=youtu.be



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hucks
02-02-2012, 10:44 AM
Port Said (Guardian report here (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/feb/02/egyp-braces-unrest-football-violence) -anyone know anything about it? Clearly it isn't a football stadium tragedy of the likes of Hllsborouigh, Hysel, or Abidjan (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/mar/29/ivory-coast-stadium-disaster-world-cup-qualifying).

There's a Qatari sports journalist (@gharbawi) on Twitter calling it a massacre carried out by trained killers.

Edit: He's Qatari based, cos he's the Al-Jazeera football correspondent, to a pretty reliable source

Sectionfive
04-02-2012, 12:20 AM
Grim night in Syria.

http://www.elahmad.com/tv/aljazeera_mubasher.htm

Mr. Tea
10-03-2012, 09:26 PM
May I pimp this here? Great article in The India Times by a mate of mine on how Assad's policies have led to Syria being stranded in "this purgatory between revolution and civil war".

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/opinion/guest-writer/how-syria-got-to-purgatory/articleshow/12204825.cms?curpg=1

Whether or not the regime had the ability to make structural changes needed to satisfy an emboldened citizenry remains an open question; what is beyond doubt is that the rotting corruption of the Syrian regime, coupled with mind-boggling ruthlessness in dealings with any opposition, was a recipe for disaster. Since Bashar's ascension in 2000, the Syrians had foiled the Chinese hat-trick of liberalising an economy whilst making no efforts at establishing democracy or tackling corruption of the sort which, with prices skyrocketing out of control - consumer inflation in Syria rose to about 15% in 2008 - made life impossible for average Syrians.

The roots of this economic misery have a lot to do with the Syrian regime's delusions of a completely self-contained economy: tourists would spend nights in the Umayyad capital eating their dinners off state-manufactured plates, being served by government-employed waiters. This might have worked if the Syrians had maintained their previously considerable manufacturing sector; instead, the regime chose to value a rapprochement with its northern neighbour.

A free-trade agreement, concluded in 2009 with Turkey, paved the way for the entry of much cheaper Turkish goods into the Syrian market, sealing the fate of an estimated 25% of Syrians who are now unemployed.

padraig (u.s.)
26-04-2012, 10:49 PM
piece in the latest New Yorker (http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2012/04/30/120430fa_fact_steavenson) on the Nour Party + the place of Salafists - who have stepped into a big chunk of the power vacuum to challenge the Brotherhood for Islamist, and thus Egyptian, primacy - in the general fuckery of post-Mubarak Egyptian politics. unfortunately most of it is behind a pay wall but it's basically on the rise of the Salafists (in true populist fashion, based far more on their social service programs than their ideology) and how their not so secret desire to impose strict Sharia fits uncomfortably into a nominal democracy. which is always the charge against Islamists in a democracy but there are lot of quotes from Salafists themselves that provide insight into how they reconcile such an apparent contradiction (well, actually, it comes off like a bait + switch, but that's nothing new either) and the thoroughly creepy way fundamentalists of all types genuinely believe they are improving peoples lives by imposing ancient religious laws on them anyway it's worth a read if you can get your hands on a paper copy.

2 other points of note, both of which should also surprise no one: secular liberals + leftists have, after being such a driving in the revolution, been thoroughly marginalized; the security apparatus of the Mubarak state are still well entrenched and will likely continue being so despite all other factions agreeing (possibly the only thing they agree on) that they are bad. oh yes and as mentioned Egyptian transitory politics are a total clusterfuck. neither a new military state or an Islamist takeover are entirely unlikely. I feel like my repetition of this idea is getting into carthago delenda est territory at this point, but again: to win a revolution is easier than, and don't matter if you can't, win the post-revolution. and the secular left/lib types Westerners like were always going to lose this one. your base can't be a million foreign fucking Twitter followers. social media revolutions are bullshit, especially once all those self-satisfied Westerners move on to the next Kony 2012 and leave you stuck in the shit by yourself. oh yes + Obama + his crew (+ anyone else who's mouth-serviced Arab Spring) left/are leaving those cats seriously in the lurch too. a new beginning indeed.

padraig (u.s.)
26-04-2012, 10:53 PM
oh + hilarious quote from the article


He [Nour Party MP] once...cited as inspirations for the Nour Party Ayatollah Khomeini, Martin Luther King Jr., and Theodor Herzl [emphasis mine].
"Are you telling me you admire the founder of Zionism?"
"Ah, a speed bump," he said, making light of it. He said that of course didn't admire Israel but that he admired the Israelis' perseverance in achieving their goals

^way to dance nimbly out a potential minefield, dude

sufi
07-08-2012, 11:10 PM
http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/08/05/hacked-reuters-twitter-feed-used-to-spread-disinformation-about-syrian-rebels/?smid=tw-thelede&seid=auto

The stunt appeared to be the second step in a campaign by supporters of President Bashar al-Assad to use the news agency’s Internet feeds to spread false information about the conflict in Syria. On Friday, Reuters was forced to temporarily shut down part of its Web site after the agency’s blogging platform was hacked and fabricated reports of setbacks for Syrian rebels were posted on Reuters.com.
https://p.twimg.com/AzjkCH5CEAAbwnt.jpg

that's fairly impressive

sufi
21-01-2013, 06:13 PM
Eritrean troops lay siege to ministry
By Aaron Maasho
ADDIS ABABA | Mon Jan 21, 2013 11:09am EST
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/01/21/us-eritrea-siege-idUSBRE90K0J320130121
(Reuters) - Eritrean soldiers with tanks laid siege to the information ministry on Monday and forced state media to call for political prisoners to be freed, a senior intelligence official said.





Habash spring long overdue

sufi
09-01-2016, 12:57 PM
Internet Counterevolution doesn't mean a return to the status quo
ante of the world before the Internet. Globalization goes on, it
just loses its glamour; where there was spreading prosperity there
is offshored exploitation, where there was free-moving discussion
there are cyberwar trolls, where there was your happy face in a
Facebook there's in instant police dossier that you foolishly built
yourself, where nobody knew you were a dog you are now
branded-and-sorted Stack livestock, and so on.

Twenty-teens globalization looks less like jet-set free-spending
yuppie tourism and more like hordes of illegal Syrians arriving via
Facebook support groups. The wanderers are mostly Moslems, because
the effect of the digital "Arab Spring" on their somnolent societies
was catastrophic. It's amazing how badly that harmed them, and they
show no sign of getting over it; on the contrary. But refugee life
is for anybody, now. Rich or poor, they can all be fleeing, at a
moment's notice, if they get a sudden deluge of Greenhouse rain.
People everywhere are afraid of immigrants now because they see
their own face in that mirror. (http://www.well.com/conf/inkwell.vue/topics/487/Bruce-Sterling-Jon-Lebkowsky-Sta-page01.html#post11) :(