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bandshell
28-02-2011, 07:30 PM
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Corpsey
28-02-2011, 08:50 PM
Might be useful to post the link to the Hip Hop '10 thread here: http://www.dissensus.com/showthread.php?10987-hip-hop-10/

And the Hip Hop '09 thread: http://www.dissensus.com/showthread.php?9653-Hip-Hop-09

I imagine the Lil B thread will remain relevant too: http://www.dissensus.com/showthread.php?11051-lil-b/

Corpsey
28-02-2011, 09:44 PM
I've just joined Dat Piff, have already downloaded a great Lil Boosie mixtape from 2009 ('The Return of Mr. Wipe Me Down' (http://www.datpiff.com/Lil-Boosie-The-Return-Of-Mr-Wipe-Me-Down-mixtape.39594.html)).

This is a list of their all-time highest rated mixtapes http://www.datpiff.com/mixtapes-popular.php?filter=all&sort=rating Any recommendations from these?

pantha
28-02-2011, 09:54 PM
Coke Wave 2 by Max B & French Montana is the greatest mixtape of all time fam.. easily

(page 4)

Benny B
28-02-2011, 10:14 PM
Those Drought and Dedication Lil Wayne tapes are brilliant, Young Jeezy Trap or Die Gangsta grillz edition is great. When I first came across datpiff I thought, thats it, I never need to buy anymore hip hop ever again. Would also be keen to hear recommendations, there's just too much stuff there.

Does that list mean Wiz Khalifa's OJ and Kush is their most popular tape, or are they not in any order?

edit: best one I heard recently was this Gucci Mane one: http://www.datpiff.com/Gucci-Mane-The-Mailman-mixtape.171590.html

slackk
28-02-2011, 11:27 PM
Coke Wave 2 by Max B & French Montana is the greatest mixtape of all time fam.. easily

(page 4)

Coke Wave 2 is terrible offcuts and poor mixdowns.

Coke Wave 1, however, that is the bollocks.

pantha
01-03-2011, 12:04 AM
Coke Wave 2 is terrible offcuts and poor mixdowns.

Coke Wave 1, however, that is the bollocks.

pointless to argue over music really but C'mon!!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfwMqkQM-Bs

the tape is better than any hiphop album from the last few years.

back to '11 tho:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFFQfmMWcCo


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyuKaF6a8ME&feature=related


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2sz3mZRC1Q

Benny B
01-03-2011, 12:18 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_2iOBpCpR0

Seriously, grab the Domo-Kun mixtape asap, the production especially is fucking brilliant. Check that bassline!

captain easychord
01-03-2011, 02:16 AM
I've just joined Dat Piff, have already downloaded a great Lil Boosie mixtape from 2009 ('The Return of Mr. Wipe Me Down' (http://www.datpiff.com/Lil-Boosie-The-Return-Of-Mr-Wipe-Me-Down-mixtape.39594.html)).

This is a list of their all-time highest rated mixtapes http://www.datpiff.com/mixtapes-popular.php?filter=all&sort=rating Any recommendations from these?

2 of my all time favourite tapes:

Gucci Mane w/ DJ Burn One - Chicken Talk (absolutely essential Gucci from 2006, right after the release of 'Hard to Kill', him at the peak of his powers IMO, after this it was all downhill)

Curren$y - Life at 30 000 feet (I think this is the last Curren$y tape before he split with Young Money Worth downloading alone for 'Lay My Organz Down').

bandshell
01-03-2011, 03:27 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_2iOBpCpR0



Love this. Safe for the heads up.

bandshell
01-03-2011, 03:53 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iS7mIOdcOFM

hint
01-03-2011, 04:09 PM
Young L is next level with his beats. He should be a bigger deal than he is.

Greg Enemy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXKfqFWN2kM

Kipp Stone:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCCQu9spyQ4

Irv Da Phenom:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MneIsD4v81o

This is ok but loses its way after the first minute or so:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7lYmeEXwM8

continuum
01-03-2011, 07:20 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-RiPZc-Q-8

CrowleyHead
01-03-2011, 07:32 PM
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This is actually from early '10, but I didn't discover it 'till months ago... But MY GOD. First NYC record to make me go "HOOOOOOLY" in years. Dude on the 1st verse reminds me of Giggs for some reason.

outraygeous
01-03-2011, 07:53 PM
this guy is funny and knows his cold cuts

been watching more of his cooking than his rapping!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiAQ9xQQHeQ

and that diamond chick is swag but id bash her back doors in

Corpsey
02-03-2011, 01:58 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HzI2MRint8

'Vigilante Season' album coming March 29th


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FehNN34d2Vw

first tune to leak off Wiz's 'Rolling Papers', pretty good - hope the rest of the album's in this style


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvVAZ0StscQ

pretty standard club banger beat but definitely worth a listen/head-bang

paolo
02-03-2011, 06:46 PM
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alex
03-03-2011, 08:14 AM
that max b one is so addictive, thanks for posting corps, havent stopped listening to it, the chorus is too much

baboon2004
03-03-2011, 08:38 AM
am stoked about odd future playing at primavera est- didn't think i'd get to see them anytime soon :D

Corpsey
08-03-2011, 12:56 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CufX_WiWyeM

Based God vs. The Big Dog has to be coming soon.

Speaking of Westwood O.B.E., does anyone listen to his show anymore? I used to listen to it back in the late 90's/early 00's but never since then, but thinking about it it might be a good place to hear new stuff without the deep psychological scarring involved in looking through youtube/blogs for it. Also I'd like to hear Westwood drop a huge bomb and scream ''Nyeahhhhhhhhhhhhhyahhhh!''

outraygeous
08-03-2011, 10:19 AM
I follow him on twitter, sometimes I just want to say 'GODDAM IT, LET IT GO!'

but I dont and the world continues as normal

slackk
08-03-2011, 12:34 PM
I know it's an old tape and doesn't really fit into music from 2011 but Lil Boosie- Thug Passion is absolutely brilliant. Have listened to it about five times since Friday.

Don't really know what new tapes are good, someone tell me. I don't really want to know about albums.

gumdrops
08-03-2011, 12:37 PM
i actually like this saigon album. some of it could be trimmed/thinned out but i really like him. and just blaze is good too. nothing spectacular, but really, really solid. just great big smashing drums all the way through.

Benny B
08-03-2011, 03:56 PM
Don't really know what new tapes are good, someone tell me. I don't really want to know about albums.

Definitely get the new Young L one, Domo-Kun: link's here: http://www.sendspace.com/file/ara23e

Corpsey
08-03-2011, 09:11 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ft_vJfEo6vA

LOL at this hook, must have taken ages to think that up eh? Bit of a banger, though. Latest tune to leak/be released off Gucci's forthcoming album features Master P: http://feedoffrap.com/blog/2011/03/gucci-mane-ft-master-p-brinks/ and is alright, P is better than Gucci on it in my opinion.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhQz-0QVmQ0

Wiz has gone all-out pop now, here's the latest leak from 'Rolling Papers' http://feedoffrap.com/blog/2011/03/wiz-khalifa-the-race/ Quite bland, really, almost sounds like he's star-struck by himself and his new found mega-fame with this wide-eyed but middle-of-the-road production. He never really had much to talk about on stuff I'd heard previously but now the theme is basically his own success. Other rappers talk about this too but not all of them have the skills/production to overcome the limitations of that concern. There's something quite shallow and insubstantial about Wiz's music and his new superstar persona, I can't quite believe his success will last much longer. Cassie is in that video, though, having a 'who can walk around with the stupidest haircut' contest with Wiz.

4linehaiku
08-03-2011, 09:26 PM
re: Wiz Khalifa.

You the type a nigga that might break ya arm from beatin a egg too fast namsayin.

Sick Boy
09-03-2011, 01:00 AM
Not actually Ghostface though.

BareBones
09-03-2011, 09:54 AM
haha i love that blog, wiz khalifa is straight baby thighs, son!

those two lil boosie tapes mentioned by corpsey and slackk are well good, thanks for the recommendations

4linehaiku
09-03-2011, 10:27 AM
It's slightly funnier if you pretend it actually is Ghostface though.

Benny B
09-03-2011, 10:51 PM
This makes me want to kick the shit out of someone

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Corpsey
11-03-2011, 05:02 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyAtSBzKROo&feature=related

@SLACKKKK - http://www.datpiff.com/Alley-Boy-Purgatory-mixtape.189841.html < you heard this yet? Well worth a listen, here's a few jawwwns:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrvl0-6vGNE


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sZJWzCBTDM

if you're into that Lex/Southside On The Track trap-sound OJ Da Juiceman: ''Culinary Art School 2'' and Waka's ''Salute Me Or Shoot Me 3'' have both got bangers on. Must admit I can't listen to more than a few of those tunes in a row before I get bored, though.

luka
11-03-2011, 05:51 AM
im a fan, i can listen to identical sounding beats all day. wiley done a lot of tunes that sound the same. if i like it i just want more.

Corpsey
11-03-2011, 06:22 PM
True, I just find that stripped down identikit trap sound quite punishing as an aesthetic, it feels quite gruellng to me to listen to a 20 track mixtape of that kind of rap. Unless the rapper really catches my ear (Wooh Da Kid/Wacka) I suppose.

Also, I think a lot of that stuff is intended to be listened to at high volume, preferably in a residential area, while you drive around in a big truck. I'm listening to a lot of it quite quietly on my headphones while I sit in my living room in my pants eating cold beans.

Corpsey
11-03-2011, 06:28 PM
http://www.xxlmag.com/bangers/2011/03/fat-joe-ft-vado-massacre-on-madison-remix/

Vado is one of my favourite rappers at the moment, too.

jimitheexploder
11-03-2011, 09:42 PM
Loving these Green Ova bits

http://greenovamusic.bandcamp.com/album/i-smoke-because-i-dont-care-about-death
http://greenovamusic.bandcamp.com/album/the-shady-bambino-project

They've got a mad spaced out sound.

gumdrops
14-03-2011, 01:53 PM
has dissensus talked about odd future at all? im late with these guys but they seem like really good rappers. plus i like the shock rap shtick (i liked d12 a lot more than i prob should have). still dont know what the essential mixtapes to get are though. ive just listened through youtube.

crackerjack
14-03-2011, 01:56 PM
has dissensus talked about odd future at all? im late with these guys but they seem like really good rappers. plus i like the shock rap shtick (i liked d12 a lot more than i prob should have). still dont know what the essential mixtapes to get are though. ive just listened through youtube.

yes, lots, in the 2010 thread

outraygeous
14-03-2011, 02:45 PM
Odd Future

Tyler the Creator - Bastard
Earl Sweatshirt - Earl
Domo Gensis - Rolling Papers
ODD FUTURE - Radical mixtape
Hodgy Beats and Left Brain - Mellowhype
Mike G - Ali (i think)

Id say get the radical tape and then pick out the rappers you like, there is another guy who does raps but can remember his name. Also Frank Ocean seems to be getting a buzz

http://pitchfork.com/features/articles/7940-odd-future-mixtapes/

Corpsey
15-03-2011, 03:10 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5Uyel00dC4&feature=player_embedded#at=220

This is 'that Crack' as those rap fellows are wont to say (no homo). 50 kills it, honestly. I am actually looking forward to Pusha's album now, I need to catch up on the other leaks.

Go here for the mp3 link:

http://www.2dopeboyz.com/2011/03/14/pusha-t-raid-f-50-cent-prod-the-neptunes

luka
15-03-2011, 08:11 AM
i cant listen to odd future to b honeest. love that thing corpse just posted tho. really really love it. corpsey do you hav get rich or die trying or not? you should have it if you dont.

BareBones
15-03-2011, 10:36 AM
that tune is wicked! what other pusha t is worth checking out?

crackerjack
15-03-2011, 10:41 AM
that tune is wicked! what other pusha t is worth checking out?

the first 2 clipse albums

BareBones
15-03-2011, 10:54 AM
oh yeah of course. god i'm dumb sometimes.

gumdrops
15-03-2011, 10:55 AM
thats the best clipse thing ive heard in ages. the last album just passed me by. seemed to be really pointless. was worried about them. still fucking hate pharrell though. 50 used to be the man tbh - was listening to some old g unit mixtapes recently - forgot how good he was. get rich or die trying is actually underrated these days bizarrely - 50s gradual falling off has made ppl forget why he was worth caring about.

FairiesWearBoots
15-03-2011, 11:25 AM
Pharell/Neptunes were amazing when they started tho' - they brought new levels to hip hop

anyone remember Superthug? "neptunes, I got a cocker spaniel'


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5Y3JeO_p94&feature=related

Pharell lost his way when he met Nigo

FairiesWearBoots
15-03-2011, 11:29 AM
thats the best clipse thing ive heard in ages. the last album just passed me by. seemed to be really pointless. was worried about them. still fucking hate pharrell though. 50 used to be the man tbh - was listening to some old g unit mixtapes recently - forgot how good he was. get rich or die trying is actually underrated these days bizarrely - 50s gradual falling off has made ppl forget why he was worth caring about.

50s 'Guess who's back' was great - really fucking raw

gumdrops
15-03-2011, 11:36 AM
with a few exceptions, pharrell should just never be allowed to record his voice (did like the first nerd album a lot though).

this saigon album deserves more attention imo. could do with less guests, but just blaze went all out on it, and i like how topical saigon gets without being boring. i like the passion. plus he sounds like a grown man (without going into grouchy grown man rap) who doesnt care what you think of what he thinks which is always good.

cobretti
15-03-2011, 12:23 PM
Pharrell has ruined far too many Clipse tracks, any time he gets on a track with Pusha or Malice he just sounds so soft by comparison.

gumdrops
15-03-2011, 12:29 PM
he loves himself far too much.

outraygeous
15-03-2011, 04:16 PM
Clipse - We got it for cheap vol 2

CLASSIC

gumdrops
15-03-2011, 04:38 PM
we got it for cheap 3 was pretty good too.

i dunno about what they did after that though....

BareBones
15-03-2011, 05:07 PM
yeah vol 2 was amazing, never listened to 3, might do that now

outraygeous
15-03-2011, 05:18 PM
Check the play cloths mixtape aswell

not a classic but them classic coke and swagger raps over some current beats.

mistersloane
15-03-2011, 06:10 PM
Did anyone read Malice's book yet? Wassitlike?

http://thorn10publishing.bigcartel.com/product/wretched-pitiful-poor-blind-naked

Corpsey
15-03-2011, 07:39 PM
i cant listen to odd future to b honeest. love that thing corpse just posted tho. really really love it. corpsey do you hav get rich or die trying or not? you should have it if you dont.

Yeah, bought it on CD the day it come out I think... or the week at least. Loved ''In The Club'' and still do. Listened to it again recently and was surprised at how good it is. This track especially:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHi79hFXouE

'Guess Who's Back' is also very good, I think he sounded nastier before he got shot in the jaw, although that slight slur to his voice after the shooting does actually give him a distinctive voice, kinda works in a weird way. But his voice sounds different on that Pusha T tune, and on this tune that he gave out recently:

http://soundcloud.com/50_cent/for-the-producers-ghetto

Also I always thought 'Massacre' must be shite because the cover's so bad and he had fallen off a bit by then but this tune, produced by Hi Tek, is great, so I probably should give it a go:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NPKcVFVZu8

FairiesWearBoots
15-03-2011, 08:32 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cc1ysMa2fyw&feature=related


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02L5SBEtBqg&feature=related


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJwcPj5IlKo&feature=related

crackerjack
15-03-2011, 08:36 PM
Did anyone read Malice's book yet? Wassitlike?

http://thorn10publishing.bigcartel.com/product/wretched-pitiful-poor-blind-naked

Malice going Rev Run? I just lost interest in his solo album.

hint
16-03-2011, 01:07 AM
Beats


http://vimeo.com/21086726

luka
16-03-2011, 02:51 AM
yung l sounds lik anti-pop consortium beats. not really into it.

cobretti
16-03-2011, 10:15 AM
Nate Dogg R.I.P. :(

gumdrops
16-03-2011, 10:52 AM
i know he had some strokes a while back but thats a shock.

always loved nate dogg on this -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1GLtIKAj7A

prob the best 'hip hop singer' ever? or for gangsta/west coast stuff at least. none of the corny modern R&B mannerisms. tragic that dr dre had to work with guys like akon instead of nate dogg. tragic that anyone had to work with akon actually. (though i kinda liked locked up, and mama africa was nice too. smack that is a guilty pleasure as well)

BareBones
16-03-2011, 01:24 PM
don't think anyone's posted this yet...? new gucci mane - really like the beat on this


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pis66SKownc

Corpsey
16-03-2011, 02:19 PM
R.I.P. Nate, was only last week that me and some mates were listening to 'The Chronic' singing loudly along to his part on 'Deez Nuts' ('I heard you wanna fuck with Dre-yay! You picked the wrong muthafuckin day-ayyy!'). 41 is very young I wonder what happened.

I like that Young L tune on the last page, I downloaded his mixtape but I've got about 300 other ones to listen to before that. Don't think he's that great a rapper, really.

The Gucci tune is good but I realised listening to it more closely that Birdman's verse is absolutely abysmal. The Drumma Boy beat makes it listenable. Think the whole Gucci album must have leaked, here's a tune off it with Wooh Da Kid on, beat is 'Crank That'-ish, minimal and ominous:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuHfwK26gVk&feature=player_embedded

BareBones
16-03-2011, 03:10 PM
Yeah i definitely like the beat more than the rapping

oh yeah while we're talking about 50 - is that 'sincerely yours southside' mixtape (the one where he's going over loads of classic r&b jams) worth downloading? sounds right up my street but as you say i'm adding things to my playlist faster than i can listen to 'em...

alex
16-03-2011, 03:19 PM
Think Nate suffered two strokes, that wasn’t the COD though.

’21 Questions’, ‘Regulate’ ‘Xxplosive’ ‘The Set Up’... man was a machine, such a legend. RIP

alex
16-03-2011, 05:05 PM
i LOVE get rich or die tryin, not as essential to me as The Chronic (2001 or the original) and some other mixtapes, but 'Patiently Waiting' is so fucking tough.

Sick Boy
16-03-2011, 08:19 PM
No mention of Lil B yet? This guy is mind blowing. He has 200 seperate myspace pages where he's given away nearly 1000 songs. He wears the same clothes every day. Sometimes he incoherently raps about celebrities. Other times he decides to totally nail a 9th Wonder beat. He completely and constantly baffles his haters and his fans alike. I feel this guy deserves his own thread.

With him and Odd Future doing what they are doing, I find myself getting optimistic about the future.

hint
16-03-2011, 08:48 PM
There's a Lil B thread on page 2:
http://www.dissensus.com/showthread.php?11051-lil-b

Sick Boy
16-03-2011, 09:16 PM
There's a Lil B thread on page 2:
http://www.dissensus.com/showthread.php?11051-lil-b

Oh, right. Cheers. This is a rock I'm glad to have ceased to be living underneath.

luka
17-03-2011, 08:13 AM
i think GRoDT is much btter than the chronic 2000 although the hits off that are pretty amazing tho now i come to think about it. i wish i had mates to talk hiphop about over here, im really loving it at the moment. ghetto koran is my favourite pr-shooting 50 track, thats a canonical choice i know, but its just so good.

BareBones
17-03-2011, 12:48 PM
Oh, right. Cheers. This is a rock I'm glad to have ceased to be living underneath.

you should check out 'rain in england', the ambient album he put out on weird forest last year. it's not the best thing he's done by a long way but it's definitely worth a listen because it's so weird. and there are some really good tunes on there. as far as i know that's the only 'official' release he's done so far isn't it?

BareBones
17-03-2011, 03:36 PM
some of his newest stuff is fucking brilliant too


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gYim4jHRuE

gumdrops
17-03-2011, 11:05 PM
worst duets album ever.
http://www.factmag.com/2011/03/17/doom-and-thom-yorke-doing-a-whole-record-together/

Corpsey
17-03-2011, 11:30 PM
I like a lot of Radiohead tunes and some of Thom Yorke's solo material too but can he do a collaboration with a less constitutionally miserable/melancholy artist without it sounding like he's drizzling over it?

arf arf

luka
18-03-2011, 02:01 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tupA8FJ0TI

xv-awesome ft pusha t
premier beat kayne hook but its not

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLMpze6k1xM

Sick Boy
18-03-2011, 04:26 PM
worst duets album ever.
http://www.factmag.com/2011/03/17/doom-and-thom-yorke-doing-a-whole-record-together/

jesus fuck why

Sick Boy
18-03-2011, 04:42 PM
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Corpsey
18-03-2011, 04:44 PM
http://www.buffalo-bill.net/

a tiny snippet of 'Goblin'.

CrowleyHead
18-03-2011, 05:26 PM
jesus fuck why

I realized that 5 years ago, this would've been the most important thing ever for me. And now I sort of let out a really loud sigh.

continuum
18-03-2011, 07:24 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xe1hBDw0bww

Corpsey
20-03-2011, 12:07 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJsiTfJi9ac

CLAP CLAP
Throw some money
Slap her on her booty...
With some money!

BARS.

'Salute Me Or Shoot Me 3' has got a lot of greatness on it. I'm drunk, though, so that might have upped its greatness levels.

For all you Fiddy fans:

Real Nigga Tumblr has been doing a count-down of his top 50 G-Unit tracks (mixtape and album): http://www.realniggatumblr.com/post/3903946282/rnts-top-50-g-unit-tracks-album-cuts-and-mixtape

and this guy has done a compilation of Fiddy's recent work, seems he's going through a resurgence as that Pusha guest spot suggested: http://guttaboyjihad.tumblr.com/post/3944332379/i-was-gonna-write-out-a-drawn-out-explanation

Sectionfive
21-03-2011, 01:10 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEq_HvkImvo

Corpsey
21-03-2011, 06:35 PM
http://c438342.r42.cf2.rackcdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/pusha-t-fear-of-god.jpg

stream/download here: http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/theme/fearofgod/159

Pusha T runs down his top 25 essential tunes: http://www.complex.com/music/2011/03/pusha-t-essentials/the-funeral#gallery

Corpsey
21-03-2011, 09:04 PM
''Pusha T: “Hell Hath No Fury is the best album to ever come out in the world. It’s the best album ever made in life. It’s right up there with Thriller and Purple Rain. Actually, it’s Thriller, Purple Rain, then Hell Hath No Fury. Matter of fact, we might be able to top Purple Rain. And ’Momma I’m So Sorry’ is my favorite Clipse record. Well, it’s a toss-up between that and ’Keys Open Doors.’

Hell Hath No Fury is right up there with Thriller and Purple Rain. Actually, it’s Thriller, Purple Rain, then Hell Hath No Fury. Matter of fact, we might be able to top Purple Rain.

“My favorite record ever made by an artist is probably ’My Downfall’ by B.I.G. There’s a few moments from Life After Death that were so crazy that they inspired me. The ’Momma I’m So Sorry’ beat made me try to harness anything I could from the spirit of B.I.G., and then put my twist and my spin on it. So you gotta understand [Imitates B.I.G. voice], ’I philosophize about glocks and keys/Niggas call me young black Socrates.’ That’s me biting B.I.G at my finest. I have to thank B.I.G for that cause I was biting and you can tell the world I was biting. Now, that’s somebody I’ll bite!”

that Complex.com list is great

outraygeous
22-03-2011, 11:17 AM
so many quotables from Clipse verses

I listen to that stuff and just want to be a big time coke dealer

Benny B
22-03-2011, 05:28 PM
http://c438342.r42.cf2.rackcdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/pusha-t-fear-of-god.jpg

stream/download here: http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/theme/fearofgod/159

Pusha T runs down his top 25 essential tunes: http://www.complex.com/music/2011/03/pusha-t-essentials/the-funeral#gallery

Don't know much about Pusha T aside from a few of the most famous Clipse/Neptunes things, but something about this tape reminded me of Kanye when i listened to it last night. Not quite sure what yet, but I definitely heard some similarities.

Corpsey
22-03-2011, 06:31 PM
He's doing a Kanye impression on a lot of the tracks (see how he admits to doing a Biggie impression on 'Hell Hath No Fury'?). Quite a lot of rappers seem to do this at the moment, fairly predictable I suppose. He's technically a bit tighter than Kanye, though. First impression of the tape is that its generally of high quality and he's an impressive rapper but it's solid rather than brilliant. I like the Rick Ross tune and the aforeposted Neptunes produced tune with 50 Cent. Has definitely made me pay more attention to him as a lyricist, going to have to go back to the Clipse cos I always paid more attention to the beats.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jf29_fvi9HQ

this was linked on cocaine blunts, original beat/tune is jim jones I think

CrowleyHead
23-03-2011, 06:54 PM
We're forgetting he was probably 'pinch-hitting' for Kanye on the last album. The very first track, "Too many urkels in your team, that's why your wins low!" is a total eye-roller Pusha lyric. Never mind it's followed up by that sing-song "Don't make me pull the toys out! (Heh!?); The toys that make noise..."

Replace that "Heh!?" with a "Yuuuuuuch!" and that's some Clipse shit right there.

mrfaucet
24-03-2011, 07:03 PM
Really into that Loud Pack track Corpsey reviewed for Fact at the moment.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6Y68BHOgoI

Corpsey
24-03-2011, 07:49 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j44ItLOrcfc

so many green ova tapes released in the last few weeks, there's 'The Shady Gambino Project', 'I Smoke Because I Don't Care About Death', and now Mondre's 'Dope Since '91' (http://greenovamusic.bandcamp.com/album/dope-since-91) and Thizzle Jones 'Gorilla Musik' (http://www.datpiff.com/THIZZLE-JONES-Gorrilla-Muzik-mixtape.208651.html). Neither of which I've had the chance to listen to. It's hard keeping up with them, the quality seems to be consistently very high though. I'm becoming a bit of a fanboy for this stuff, I must admit.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7otzisZd-aw

At almost the opposite end of the scale to M.A's hazy sound you will find Rick Ross bellowing about being a mobster. This is the highlight of 'Fear of God' for me, after a couple of listens anyway. And Rick Ross stands out.

cobretti
25-03-2011, 12:13 AM
I just came in here to post that Pusha T Complex run down. Excellent reading and I'm only about half way through, it's cool to read about the real meaning behind verses like Hate It Or Love It.

luka
25-03-2011, 06:19 AM
corpsey reviws things for fact? does he? send the link over please. corpsey makes me laugh.

Corpsey
25-03-2011, 01:44 PM
Sadly it's one of the least funny things I've ever written (stiff competition, I know):

http://www.factmag.com/2011/03/23/main-attrakionz-loud-pack/

I felt quite a lot of responsiblity to represent their music (as I hear it) properly, especially as they're relatively unknown in the mainstream. My mum likes the review (and track!) I don't know if that's a good sign or not lol

4linehaiku
25-03-2011, 01:49 PM
It's here.
http://www.factmag.com/2011/03/23/main-attrakionz-loud-pack/

It's not comical corpsey though, it's serious muso crit corpsey.
I'm listening to loads of Main Attraktionz stuff at the moment, they're great. That Loud Pack track reminds me of old DJ Paul / Triple 6 Mafia production. But more stoned.

vimothy
25-03-2011, 03:39 PM
I hear Odd Future are playing Leeds / Reading this summer

Seeing them on that talk show with Mos Def invading the stage screaming "swagggg"--too funny. Almost makes me want to buy a ticket...

Corpsey
25-03-2011, 03:44 PM
They seem pretty shit live to me from the clips I've seen, just shouting over the top of their own music. But at least there's real energy to their shows, which is more than can be said for the Mos Def live show I saw last year.

I liked Mos Def a lot more before I heard any interviews with him or listened to any of his music post B.O.B.Sides.

gumdrops
25-03-2011, 03:58 PM
the ecstatic was pretty good/great. second best thing hes done after bobs.
i dont want to see him again BUT when i saw him just before the ecstatic came out he wasnt bad. his shows dont have any momentum though. but then im not a huge fan of live hip hop anyway.
id still rather listen to anything mos has done over talib though.

vimothy
25-03-2011, 04:13 PM
I liked Mos Def a lot more before I heard any interviews with him or listened to any of his music post B.O.B.Sides.

Fortunately, I've never done either of those things.

vimothy
25-03-2011, 04:16 PM
BTW, nice one for the mixtape recommendations earlier in the thread.

This is from 2010, but the first few tracks on this are great: http://www.datpiff.com/Young-Jeezy-The-Last-Laugh-mixtape.156135.html

Corpsey
26-03-2011, 08:19 PM
http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_liok79D91l1qbl8lgo1_500.jpg

Space Age Hustle and Dream Collabo Present: Two Man Horror Film, The Main Attrakionz Compilation (Internet, 2011)

Though they’ve been on our radar since around this time last year, and we’ve been proselytizing about their work to anyone that would listen since then (you might remember their heavy presence on our last tape, 3 Years Ahead), Main Attrakionz and the whole Green Ova camp have finally starting turning heads outside of this small rap blog world in 2011. With the release of Squadda B’s I Smoke Because I Don’t Care About Death, Shady Blaze and Squadda’s Shady Bambino Project, and now Mondre’s Dope Since 1991 mixtapes, glowing write-ups from Pitchfork, SF Weekly, and The Fader (among others) have followed. A crammed release schedule is coming up, including their full-length debut album Legion of Doom, as well as so many collaborative projects and solo releases from Squadda and Mondre it might make your head spin. This is in addition to a colossal amount of music the duo has already released. It can be overwhelming.

So Space Age Hustle, along with the Berkeley-based Dream Collabo, have put together an introductory compilation to help the uninitiated dive into the beautiful, idiosyncratic, and complex world of MAz. We have probably listened to more Main Attrakionz than anyone in the world, and this tracklist is made up of our favorite tracks, new and old. It’s a great one for those interested in their unique sound. Clipped vocal samples, slapping 808s, hazy atmospherics, and generally top-notch production work from Squadda and frequent collaborators Clams Casino, NoaBoa, and Nem270 (as well as others) combine perfectly with the lyrical work of MCs Squadda and Mondre. And the lyrics: probably the most underrated part of the Main Attrakionz world. Both Squadda and Mondre have a unique ability to combine narrative muscle with creative punchlines at a delirious rate. Oftentimes overlooked (especially in their early work) because of how deep the vocals are in the mix, they’re definitely worth keeping an ear out for. Their most high-profile fan, Danny Brown, calls Mondre his favorite MC out right now.

Get in now or miss out. Main Attrakionz are going to be all over your radar in the next several months, and you all should be paying attention. Tracklist and credits below:

1. Squadda B- Dear America (prod. by Squadda B)

2. Main Attrakionz- Legion of Doom (prod. by Squadda B)

3. Squadda B- Ask Yourself (prod. by Clams Casino)

4. Squadda B- World Domination (feat. Mondre and Dope G) (prod. by Squadda B)

5. Main Attrakionz- Same Game (prod. by Squadda B)

6. Squadda B- Oakland Sunrise (Three 6 Mafia instrumental)

7. Main Attrakionz- Young as Fuck (Edit) (prod. by Squadda B)

8. Squadda B- Fakest Year Ever (prod. by Clams Casino)

9. Squadda Bambino- I’m Official (prod. by Clams Casino)

10. Squadda B- Ice Nites (feat. Mondre) (prod. by Nem270)

11. Main Attrakionz- Death Won’t End Yr Dreams (Edit) (prod. by Squadda B)

12. Main Attrakionz- Blood Money (prod. by Squadda B)

13. Main Attrakionz- Who Am I (prod. by Babe Rainbow)

14. Main Attrakionz- Conversations (prod. by Clams Casino)

15. Main Attrakionz- On Deck (prod. by Squadda B)

16. Main Attrakionz- Illest Alive (prod. by Squadda B)

17. Main Attrakionz- Shining Everytime (prod. by Clams Casino)

18. Main Attrakionz- Finish Line (prod. by NoaBoa)

19. Main Attrakionz- Still the Legion/Bonus Track (prod. by Main Attrakionz and Basshead Beatz)

Cover by Dream Collabo.

-Flex

Download link HERE. (http://www.mediafire.com/?ji4cwxtvv5s70zc)

luka
27-03-2011, 04:35 AM
everytime i hear their music i think of
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-oJS_rdVEg
these lot. and i almost liked these lot but not quite.

luka
27-03-2011, 05:24 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arzxKbHM5Vo

this is the best thing i heard today youtubing a hangovr away....

Corpsey
27-03-2011, 02:57 PM
everytime i hear their music i think of
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-oJS_rdVEg
these lot. and i almost liked these lot but not quite.

Interesting comparison, I can definitely hear affinities. I like the beat on this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pk0KzyE8zIE&feature=related the way the beat and bass are broken up definitely reminds me of M.Attrak... The MCing seems more deliberately abstract/experimental, and the beats seem less abstract/experimental.

Like that Meek Mill tune you posted too, I stopped listening to him cos his voice gets on my nerves a bit but he does pick good beats.

Corpsey
27-03-2011, 05:15 PM
http://i.imgur.com/wyZHj.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/V9wOn.jpg

http://www.mediafire.com/?afw324h4cjqxqsb

outraygeous
27-03-2011, 05:53 PM
maybe some a y'all will like this?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-aokvgd3ac

BareBones
27-03-2011, 06:05 PM
those complex lists are well good. really liked that top 50 west coast rap songs one they did too. corpsey you should do a list of the most essential recent bits, a la tim's ones in the funky thread. go on. i need it cos i get overawed by the volume of stuff to check out and end up listening to bits of everything rather than all of something. especially cos i'm a relative dunce when it comes to hip hop, but it's really the only thing that excites me these days. i need guidance!

luka
28-03-2011, 06:24 AM
the west coast underground has always had a good proportion of straight up hippies. acid, mushroom and orange juice. i actually brought that mystik journeymen album at the time although i didn;t listen to it much.

luka
28-03-2011, 10:05 AM
http://boner.crewcial.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=77891&sid=950cc2fd468f5de3d50512e86b8fe859

this is sort of fun.

mistersloane
28-03-2011, 05:00 PM
Interesting comparison, I can definitely hear affinities. I like the beat on this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pk0KzyE8zIE&feature=related the way the beat and bass are broken up definitely reminds me of M.Attrak... The MCing seems more deliberately abstract/experimental, and the beats seem less abstract/experimental.


I really like the track 'Black Sands' by the Mystic Journeymen - I still play it alot - but I didn't think they did anything that good again, unfortunately.

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slackk
28-03-2011, 06:23 PM
love the Max B album

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<iframe title="YouTube video player" width="480" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/nkNOTyEMpbA" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

paolo
28-03-2011, 09:40 PM
I like Clipse's emotionless delivery but I just find it boring when road rap MCs do the same thing. Ho hum

luka
29-03-2011, 08:14 AM
sloane i was looking for the beats and lyrics thing as it goes. it was what made me get into them, them and aceyalone actually. they are really good compilations. i was playing the one with del, casual and xhibit yestereday.

luka
29-03-2011, 08:38 AM
talking of west coast underrground
http://topdawgmusic.com/main/2011/03/28/ab-soul-kendrick-lamar-rapper-shit-unreleased-prod-by-tommy-black-ltm-4-5-11/
new black hippy.

luka
29-03-2011, 09:04 AM
that max b sound good. im not a fanboy but im gonna listen to that tho... first one i like a lot that you put there

gragy10
29-03-2011, 04:32 PM
Anyone got a reup for that MA mixtape?
Only just seen it and it's dead..

mistersloane
29-03-2011, 04:41 PM
Anyone got a reup for that MA mixtape?
Only just seen it and it's dead..

Yup it's here :

http://www.mediafire.com/?r5zdaukmlynysa2

mistersloane
29-03-2011, 04:43 PM
sloane i was looking for the beats and lyrics thing as it goes. it was what made me get into them, them and aceyalone actually. they are really good compilations. i was playing the one with del, casual and xhibit yestereday.

I think you probably turned me onto them in the first place luka! I definitely heard about them off here, god, ages ago.

Corpsey
29-03-2011, 06:19 PM
I'm a complete Max B fanboy now lol Thank-you Slackkk. He's an accquired taste I suppose and has made some crap but now I'm into him I'm amazed by how much of his stuff I like. I find a lot of his tunes worm their way into my head so that after the first listen I'm into the tune but not that much, and then by the third listen I'm singing along converted.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-aKcl8rm0A


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CP6SZ29U94


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOaBLj-hnLI

As for making a tim f style list, I don't think I'm qualified. Hip-Hop is just so active and huge a genre, its impossible to listen to everything and remember I'm catching up on years and years of stuff after writing the genre off in the early noughties (I was one of those semi-backpacking 'real hip-hop' types, but I admitted I had a problem and now Waka Flocka Flame is my guiding light. I looked to my side and saw Master P's footsteps in the sand - he had been there all along. Especially as I remember getting into hip-hop in 1997ish and loving all the No Limit stuff, before the underground pretensions kicked in), which is a daunting task.

Hip-Hop also consumes a lot of internet time for me because the world around it is so interesting and funny - hip-hop forums are full of idiots but are also very entertaining. And there's this weird tribalism to it where people pick their favourite rappers and spend their whole lives slating the enemies of those rappers. 'Nas Lost' and 'Jay-Z lost' ALL THE TIME.

I'll come up with a list of tunes/albums/mixtapes I've liked since getting back into the genre since last year (from last/this year), will probably be a selection stolen off sites like Cocaine Blunts/Realniggatumblr/Martorialist etc. but I suppose you have to find stuff somewhere.

Corpsey
29-03-2011, 08:05 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ud2gn5jBls4

haven't listened to the rest of the tape yet but this was recommended by someone on Twitter. 'Freeze Me' was one of my favourite 2010 rap tunes without a doubt.

luka
30-03-2011, 04:19 AM
theres not enough hours in the day to keep up with hiphop. certainly not if you are in full time employment plus have other distractions like relationships and friends and stuff. even just trying to keep up with say, curren$y is almost a full time occupation. like for example, this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exHxfuMXimc
is quite good and i never even heard of them before. its not gonna changee your life but i looked at the 1xtra playlists the other day just out of curiousity, to see what is being fd to uk as contemporary hiphop, westwood and semtex and them, and everything they play is shit. thats odd to me. does anyone know of a radio show which is consistently good that you can stream like de ja shows?

luka
30-03-2011, 05:49 AM
Kill Ya Self Feat. Ras Kass, Killer Ben, Planet Asia, TriState & Montage One

thats th bset thing i heard today.

luka
30-03-2011, 08:17 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHzaQF8N7_I

actually maybe this is bettre. this video is really good even if you dont lik th song. the illusions of grandeur thing lil b done is really good too... amazing cover.

meatstixx
30-03-2011, 09:43 AM
psyched for the Danny Brown album, now he's signed to Fools Gold and has picked some interesting producers. i think its gonna surprise some people.

luka
30-03-2011, 09:51 AM
ofwgkta playing at sydney opera house of all places. who making beats for danny brown?

meatstixx
30-03-2011, 10:00 AM
i can't post it I will when I can.

luka
30-03-2011, 11:06 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTswhqKBBVw

Corpsey
30-03-2011, 09:21 PM
That Richboy tune is great, I've downloaded 12 bars mixtape but as usual I'm struggling to get through what I've already got :mad: Feeling 'Gwap' though http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPg971tYdHQ


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-19OBSOOgY&feature=player_embedded#at=78

Definitely worth downloading 'Purgatory' if you haven't already http://www.datpiff.com/Alley-Boy-Purgatory-mixtape.189841.html Trap/emotional ish. I've almost got an instinctive aversion to auto-tune but it seems to figure quite heavily in Alley Boy/Young Dro's latest mixtapes, and works well on some tracks.

BareBones
30-03-2011, 09:25 PM
is that young dro equestrian mixtape worth checking? the artwork is amazing.

Sick Boy
31-03-2011, 05:43 PM
psyched for the Danny Brown album, now he's signed to Fools Gold and has picked some interesting producers. i think its gonna surprise some people.

I like Danny Brown, but ever since I heard him I thought that he'd benefit from better production. The beats he spits on are often pretty uninspired, which totally doesn't match the way he raps at all.

Also, speaking of unorthodox rapping over well-suited productions: E-40 just dropped his next two Revenue Retrievin' albums the other day. Haven't got round to listening to them yet, but I bet they are good.

Great picture of E-40 at work: http://twitpic.com/wlnzd/full

luka
01-04-2011, 06:03 AM
i cant get into bay area stuff usually. i dont know why. im not keen on goofiness in general. i never liked police academy when i was a kid. the internet is big on the bay for some reason. its good in a way cos i can automatically dismiss half the stuff that gets hypd on blogs. its not that i think its bad it just doesnt appeal to me. i agree that a lot of danny browns output has been made unlistenable for me cos of the beats. its a big shame.

daddek
01-04-2011, 11:25 AM
hmm i dont know if agree entirely, maybe I've not heard enough to reach the same conclusion, but I thought a the Doe Pesci production on the Hawaiian Snow mixtape was great. I like Danny Brown, he interviews really well too. Cool how in the cocaine blunts interview he says how much he enjoys grime / electronic stuff, because he comes from detroit.

luka
01-04-2011, 11:38 AM
i heard of danny brown from here. i cant remember who it was or i would give them credit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTolszuHi2U
it was this song. and i guess th frustration for me aftere hearing this was not being able to find anything as good except for maybe his guest spot on the black milk album.

outraygeous
01-04-2011, 11:40 AM
I liked the beats on The Hybrid, Re up and Greatest Rapper Ever are excellent beats

I would like to hear him on a grime beat, he is accepting beats so someone should hit him up with one. I wouldn't like to hear Danny on trap beats

outraygeous
01-04-2011, 11:47 AM
i heard of danny brown from here. i cant remember who it was or i would give them credit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTolszuHi2U
it was this song. and i guess th frustration for me aftere hearing this was not being able to find anything as good except for maybe his guest spot on the black milk album.

Thing with Danny is his 2 deliveries, I first found myself being hooked by the above flow but then I got more into his direct flow. Hybrid was a good album, Guitar solo video just dropped


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAG1TCSTVTc

his new look is cool too

Corpsey
03-04-2011, 02:03 PM
i heard of danny brown from here. i cant remember who it was or i would give them credit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTolszuHi2U
it was this song. and i guess th frustration for me aftere hearing this was not being able to find anything as good except for maybe his guest spot on the black milk album.

Yeah 'The Hybrid' beat is great, can't seem to find an mp3 of that tune anywhere.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIHxkPxFAsk&feature=related

Haven't heard this before, more of an 808 banger beat of the type I haven't heard him over before. Not sure it works actually.

Here's another example wot I just found, BANGER:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Mn7KgU3s08&feature=related

I really like the 'Drinks on Me' beat, more like a dilla/slum village-y beat and I think he works well over it, perhaps unexpectedly since his delivery is often so off-kilter and volatile. Luka I dunno if you're into that style of beat though, but I think it's great:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18zpDPdsP3Y

I like the Samiyam beat on 'Radio Head' too http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcRUpoWux6g

Corpsey
03-04-2011, 03:57 PM
http://itunes.apple.com/us/album/hawaiian-snow/id389715439 seems like a good album. Like I said before, so much hip-hop just passes me by.

This one for example


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPVslvctwWU

this is great too, so vivid


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeTqiKMWE4Y

http://dannythehybrid.tumblr.com/post/832722437/the-breakdown-of-the-hybrid < just seen this, Danny breaks down 'The Hybrid' track by track.

mistersloane
04-04-2011, 10:56 AM
Yeah 'The Hybrid' beat is great, can't seem to find an mp3 of that tune anywhere.
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;), hybrid vocal, can't find an instrumental unfortunately. We need Poisonous Dart here again.

[url]http://www.mediafire.com/?kwlc5m3dyc71g5z (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcRUpoWux6g)

outraygeous
04-04-2011, 11:56 AM
@Dart_Adams pon the twitter or just holla at Danny. He is pretty cool

Cheers for the track

Im going to wheel it after the first line on my serato

'Im the first to breakfast, late for dinner'

Couple gunshots for 'shop so much that every day is like December'

Sick Boy
05-04-2011, 02:10 AM
We need Poisonous Dart here again.

If this thread was called Hip Hop '93, I might agree.

Sick Boy
06-04-2011, 03:14 AM
Just got into E-40's new stuff today. I've only been able to give Overtime Shift a listen so far, but here's some of my favourite tracks off it:

A really catchy joint with Joker-esque shimmery synths, featuring J-Stalin who I'm feeling at the moment:
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This one is a banger, the kind of thing you expect from 40. Cocaine Blunts posted this one up before the album dropped, so you might have heard it already:
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And this one because the drop is just fucking mad. Sounds like Zomby. The competing vocal tracks during the chorus make me want to slap a baby:
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I will post my favourites from Graveyard Shift after I've given it a listen.

Corpsey
07-04-2011, 06:52 PM
thanks to mistersloane for the 'Hybrid' vocal. I need to find a working link for 'The Hybrid: Cutting Room Floor'.

http://hiphop-n-more.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/currensy-convert-coup.jpg

Spitta's doing an album with Alchemist. (http://www.prefixmag.com/media/curreny/ventilation-prod-the-alchemist/51119/) First track to leak off it HERE (http://hulkshare.com/3l15wd1isb7r#).

Speaking of Alchemist, here's that new tune he did with Mobb Deep (including newly freed P) and Nas. I haven't even listened to it yet, that's how dissensus exclusive it is.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exwhUGaw1pY

outraygeous
08-04-2011, 01:11 PM
on the ALC tip, here are 2 of my fave beats off the Gutter Water album. Which was out late last year


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I11pgTCli3c


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmGkVBfz_RI

the raps are average but the beats bang. Plus sometimes you just want that head knock stuff

gumdrops
08-04-2011, 03:22 PM
the first half of that gangrene album was good. but the second half went really wrong with the beats i thought. i like alchemists funeral beats but mobb deep (prodigy esp) just sound washed out on that new song. they sound like theyre half asleep. nas is better than both of them.

new pharoahe monch album is quite good. quite rough sounding, makes me think its like a mix cd, beats are pretty functional but decent, but hey, its pharoahe monch so who cares. he makes even crap beats sound good.

outraygeous
11-04-2011, 11:53 AM
This guy raps on beats I like so thats a plus. Dont really say much but Im not that bothered.

Nice flow over the Million Dollar Mans 8 bit head knocker


http://youtu.be/Owq6CpNp45Q

BareBones
13-04-2011, 04:30 PM
so as well as that clams casino instros mixtape that just came out he's also giving away tons of beats on his twitter if anyone likes that sort of thing

bandshell
16-04-2011, 04:15 AM
http://limelinx.com/files/8801ded3f243b4be0998b5447f239275

http://limelinx.com/files/90e3f6db302e1f1325183d2889bbb476

hint
18-04-2011, 05:16 PM
I haven't really kept track of Timbaland's movements recently. This one caught my ear though. Good to hear Missy back:

Take Your Clothes Off

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhwE6mvLXDw

Warped (not so keen on this one)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=st2S9ajIomU

mistersloane
18-04-2011, 05:50 PM
Warped

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=st2S9ajIomU

The first 16 seconds of that are sick. Love what he's done to the vocals.

luka
21-04-2011, 09:37 AM
http://covertcoup.currensyspitta.com/album/covert-coup

have you got covert coup yet?

luka
21-04-2011, 09:58 AM
its deep. its the one.

Corpsey
21-04-2011, 01:25 PM
Interesting that on that 'Warped' track the bass-line really reminds me of Lex Luger/Southside on the Track - the way it jumps up for one note every four(?) bars. Would be quite interested to see Timbaland try his hand at that 'Trap' style, given the opportunity it would give him to work the stuttering hi-hats like a master.

Looking forward to listening to Covert Coup, also quite intrigued to hear the new Prodigy EP produced by Alchemist, despite reading some lukewarm reviews of it.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WA7BZmN1Z7A&feature=player_embedded#at=105


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjjKArFexEQ&feature=player_embedded

Oh, and thanks to CrowleyHead for pointing me in the direction of the new Main Attrakionz mixtape: http://greenovamusic.bandcamp.com/album/blackberry-ku-h

Corpsey
21-04-2011, 01:55 PM
I really like the production on those E-40 bits Sick Boy posted but I'm still not really that sold on him as a rapper. Probably need to listen to more of his stuff for it to click with me.

luka
21-04-2011, 02:03 PM
i dont want him to click with me i dont care i'll just miss out... im sure its good but its not for me.
not gonna bother with the prodigy mixtape either, lifes too short. been mostly listening to lil boosie this week.
ive been impressed with rap blog genorge bush money. they got good productivity and intresting things to say.

luka
21-04-2011, 02:04 PM
lik reviewing some old gucci mane mixtape from years ago. thats good. tll me something i dont alrady know. thank you.

luka
21-04-2011, 02:05 PM
i cant get into huslah either. none of that bay area mob really. i dunno. dont like it.

paolo
21-04-2011, 02:41 PM
Clams Casino is such a good producer. I'd never heard of him until the other week, he got good reviews in Fact and The Wire :cool:

Here's a silent film of a fat girl dancing around in her underwear

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luka
21-04-2011, 03:02 PM
if you were a devotee of this thread you would hav known about him earlier cos corpsey is a big supporter. im not a big fan of main attrack but i like the lil b things.... the new instrumental on the blogs is nice enough although i nevere understood the appeal of listening to a hiphop instrumental. thats th sort of thing gilles does. plays the instrumental.

Corpsey
21-04-2011, 03:32 PM
Clams Casino instrumentals are more interesting to listen to than, say, a Premier beat cos they've got a bit more going on (of course I'm not suggesting he is on Premier's level). But I agree really, I'd much rather listen to the vocal versions of Clams beats (same goes for Squadda B, Nem 270 et al. despite their beats being probably the most immediately striking thing about Main Attrakionz's music). Also by themselves the instrumentals can feel a bit too ambient/soft-edged to me, I feel like Lil B's voice is almost an incursion of (admittedly weird) reality into the unreal 'cloud'-y instrumentals ppl like Clams make (and the same goes for M.Attrakionz, as I said in that review I done did).

Luka - what are your favourite Boosie tunes? I've dabbled. That's the case with pretty much every rapper I have heard, unfortunately.

'Covert Coup' is sounding very good. Alchemist does that Curren$y signature-sound vintage-rock/soul beat so well.

Corpsey
21-04-2011, 03:42 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oorFxfXKYJA

Sick Boy
21-04-2011, 05:40 PM
This is off E-40's Graveyard Shift. I really like this one. It's a story about a wrong 'un E-40 knows, but the way it's told combined with the spooky sounding production makes it sound like a campfire ghost story. E-40's eccentricities put a genuinely funny spin on what is otherwise pretty dark content as well, something which immediately makes me recall Slick Rick. You can almost picture a flashlight being held under his face for dramatic effect as he raps this one. This is excellent stuff, although overall Overtime Shift is a better album, and if you're only going to get one, I'd recommend that one.

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luka
22-04-2011, 12:42 AM
the first lil boosie thing i got into was on youtube. it was a video that was a bit lik an sbtv video, on the street with his scary looking mates and they had so much gun it was unbelievable. im not going to lie i was sort of transifxed by this video of men waving guns about. the song is we out chea. probably youve seen it corpsey. for anyone else
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_H0fy73jQaI
fuck the police is the best thing ive heard maybe. all the things with webbie sem good. i also really like chill out, long journey, gin in my cup, most things ive heard really. lots of random youtube things and thug passion and superbad mixtapes.
if you like gun videos this is one of the best ones too i think
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ite6FNbmSc

Corpsey
22-04-2011, 01:13 AM
http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/3204/boosieguns.jpg

:eek:

''Yeah. I think I WILL buy that mixtape, actually, now I think about it.''

http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/3592/woohdakidguns.jpg

The gun in the video for 'Body Bags' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zl_D-WkDAw) is noteworthy. I seem to remember reading in a comment under it that it's illegal to own/hold/tote one in America and so they had to shoot the video in Mexico. Can't find the comment now, but the top rated comment alerted me to this:

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/1932/woohdakidwhodaindiankid.jpg

''Ooohhh shit lmao, look at the idian kid behind wooh da kid at 2:25 lmaooo
casechesse''

Plus any excuse to post that video up cos 'Body Bags' is the GOAT tune ever.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjCHXJA9D9E

Listened to a few of those Boosie bits Luka and they are great. It's weird the way his helium-rich snarl plays off against big booming 808s. He sounds contemptuous towards the size of the beats. Dr. Dre used to have that quality - but more so, as if he was too cool to even be the coolest rapper/producer in the world... Anyway, it makes him sound NASTY. One of my hip-hop obsessed mates who I'm trying to wean off 'true skool' 80s/90s New York worship is currently getting massively into Boosie. He's a really good rapper, though, the voice gives you the mistaken impression at first that he's a novelty rapper but his lyrics can be surprisingly deep.

I'm sure you've heard 'Mind of a Maniac' and 'Top To The Bottom'?

luka
22-04-2011, 01:19 AM
i read someone somewhere comparing boosie to some old delta blues singer or something which seemed apt. like the neptunes comparing mystikal to james brown. they are good comparisons. i have heard those two songs but i they are not things i really listen to. i dont like mind of a maniac type things usually. you know like certain getto boys things, chuckie and stuff. dunno. not into it that much. top to bottom, if i remmber was quite sunny, like wiz khalifa if h was a murderous psycho.
maybe im getting it confused with something else.

Corpsey
22-04-2011, 01:57 AM
Top to Bottom = Boosie's 'Juicy'.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkQy7o-u8KI

Just noticed this new Wooh Da Kid tune


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imTFhSmnyaQ

That ''you know what its gonna BEEE'' is infectious.

This one sounds a bit like 'Lift The Load' by Alley Boy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-19OBSOOgY) - auto-tune trap music. I think that combination works, perhaps surprisingly, but when you think about how miserable/lugubrious some of those Lex/Southside beats sound...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ls-V4Fu6m9w

Which reminded me that the video to 'Grove Street Party' came out recently:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaM6_yiUchw&feature=related

more Brick Squad:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A77Bp7btV3U

still haven't heard the new Gucci album...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vC8gxuQQLxc

Corpsey
22-04-2011, 01:57 AM
i read someone somewhere comparing boosie to some old delta blues singer or something which seemed apt. like the neptunes comparing mystikal to james brown.

Yeah those are good comparisons.

luka
22-04-2011, 02:01 AM
http://greenovamusic.bandcamp.com/track/stoner-gang-snippet-feat-sortahuman-prod-by-space-ghost-purp

Corpsey
22-04-2011, 02:02 AM
like wiz khalifa if h was a murderous psycho.


I'd love to hear this lol

my mate told me this documentary about Boosie is good, I'm gonna watch it now


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlQWiS44cuw&feature=related

luka
22-04-2011, 02:04 AM
i was just reading rap blog martorialist this morning which i dont read much cos it is one of hundrds of rap blogs and not in my top tn but it was talking about boosie docos. sounded good.
http://themartorialist.blogspot.com/

luka
22-04-2011, 02:05 AM
http://greenovamusic.bandcamp.com/track/cloud-skatin-feat-danny-brown-prod-by-julian-wass

this mixap is def the strongest thing i heard out of this camp so far.

Corpsey
22-04-2011, 02:08 AM
btw for some reason you can download all the tracks on 'Blackberry Kush' for free but get charged 1 dollar per track if you download them individually... I downloaded the Danny Brown featuring one the other day for a dollar and then got it on the mixtape for free. Still, worth supporting Green Ova IMO

btw 2 : http://www.datpiff.com/Wooh-Da-Kid-Strap-A-Holics-mixtape.201219.html = the mixtape those Wooh Da Kid tracks are taken from

I despair of keeping up with rap music honestly. :mad:

luka
22-04-2011, 02:11 AM
corpsey if you are there do you reckon i should spend the next 30mins or so invstigating young dro or fabolous new mixtapes? im leaning toward fab cos although it might not be as good it might suprise me in a way the other wont.

luka
22-04-2011, 02:14 AM
http://www.livemixtapes.com/mixtapes/13627/fabolous_the_soul_tape.html

or

http://www.livemixtapes.com/mixtapes/13282/young_dro_equestrian_dro.html

luka
22-04-2011, 02:18 AM
hahah fab been listening to curren$y. this is not close to covert coup tho....

Corpsey
22-04-2011, 02:22 AM
Equestrian Dro has the best cover by far.

Maybe we should set up a mixtape support network on here so we can cover all bases without going absolutely insane? :D

I'm going to have to force myself to listen to Covert Coup tomorrow PROPERLY. Maybe I'll do a blog review of it. This is one of the only ways I can guarantee that I'll listen to something properly without moving onto the latest download.

Glad to see you're into the new Main Attrakionz luka. I was listening to a bit of it today and I think its great - good sunny weather music, in a strange way.

luka
22-04-2011, 02:28 AM
do covert coup properly it really deservs it. dont write about it in too 'writerly' a way if you dont mind. can you write about it lik corspey please? it makes me feel weird when rap blogs try to write properly.

luka
22-04-2011, 02:30 AM
equestrian dro covere is deep. the fab is like the last fab thing i checkd out. inoffensive but ultimately a bit dull. i think im gonna give the song about drugs a chance thn if thats boring too im gonna switch to dro.

Corpsey
22-04-2011, 02:33 AM
I agree with you... I'm trying to make what I write less like literature essays. Its hard when you're writing for an audience that doesn't necessarily know about rap music or take it seriously to not go into intellectual justification mode, I suppose.

It's funny though cos I almost see analysis of music as a way of focusing on it when I'm surrounded by distractions such as a computer screen full of links and forums, TV, the 'outside world' which I occasionally hear whispered stories about (apparently there are girls and stuff). Back in the halcyon days of CDs I could just listen to Illmatic again and again until I knew all the words...

Of course the problem is analysis gets in the way of things and muddies the waters...

luka
22-04-2011, 02:44 AM
my feeling is that it is always a mistake to talk down to your audience. i think you should always be talking to equals. and talking in your own voice rather than using a format. like to illustrat look at group blog no jumper. often far too earnst in thir writing. george bush mony has more individuls. more flair and is better as a result. they suffer from the same thing tho. journalese. it just makes them look a bit dim, like when spivs use the word ascertain.
i dont mean dont analyse or be intellgent. those things are mandatory. i mean dont talk down and dont use a pre packaaged style/format/phrases/word combinations.

luka
22-04-2011, 02:51 AM
like when you write something for a blog read it over and think does this sound like i am trying to suck up to the teacher. beacuse 99% of music blogs try to suck up to the teacher. that dosnt mean being dumb it means being smart but in a different way. thats just my feling

Corpsey
22-04-2011, 02:59 AM
I like 'No Jumper' and 'George Bush Money'. Full disclosure: I'm actually meant to be writing a thing about suicide in rap music for No Jumper, have loads of interesting twitter conversations with Yayodancing (the guy who co-runs it) about rap music. I can see what you mean, but I do enjoy reading in-depth and analytic reviews sometimes - ironically I was actually going to suggest yayo's review of 'Covert Coup' to you cos I found it interesting and it made me reconsider my attitude towards Curren$y.

The thing is my natural voice is fairly analytical... but I definitely agree that it can become very stultified and over-formal sometimes. There is this thing with writing 'pieces' where you're trying to impress people with your writing as much as enlightening them (!) with your observations about the music... its quite an egotistical thing. Although I suppose what you're saying is that a sense of being humbled before writerly convention/expectation is a sure way to make your writing bland/toothless?

One of my favourite rap blogs = http://www.realniggatumblr.com/ and the guy Stevie who writes it writes COMPLETELY in his own voice, its unmistakable. And very funny, too.

Luka what do you make of this piece Noz did on Biggie for The Fader? http://www.thefader.com/2011/04/20/feature-stay-low-and-keep-firing/ Personally I think its great, but would be interested to know if you feel that he's falling into that trap of talking down to his audience?

luka
22-04-2011, 03:00 AM
actually i like no jumper too. i gave gb$ credit for the chicken talk review but actually it was no jumper. i read a really good thing about doe pesci too on one of those sites. i really like that kind of feature.

luka
22-04-2011, 03:04 AM
also CAN YOU STOP ACCUSING ME OF BEING ANTI ANALYSIS!!!!
im making a point about style not content.

luka
22-04-2011, 03:08 AM
i know all the rap blogs by the way. i read a lot and rnt is a good example of what i mean, i would aspire to that rather than apeing a conventional prose style. i can ventriloquise any voice fairly convincingly so i know how easy it is and thats why i feel contempt for it. you can say interesting and intelligent things without using that voice. i think its dishonest and makes people look dopier than thy really are.

luka
22-04-2011, 03:09 AM
i am gonna read the noz thing right now. ps fabolus thing actually has som quite good bits.... still perservering....

Corpsey
22-04-2011, 03:19 AM
also CAN YOU STOP ACCUSING ME OF BEING ANTI ANALYSIS!!!!
im making a point about style not content.

Haha sorry didn't mean to suggest this.

I think that certain styles of writing can't incorporate the same content, though. I feel I have to adopt a certain style at points in order to express the thoughts I've had about something... but again, what you're talking about is more putting on a false voice, right?

I'd be interested (if scared) to know what you think of stuff I've written. I always remember things you've said on here, I respect your opinion and the way you unapologetically express it - i.e. you wrote about Burial on here and described his use of sampled vocals as 'lachrymose' and joyless. Although I didn't necessarily agree with you, I appreciated the brevity/clarity of the judgement.

Did you ever do a blog?

luka
22-04-2011, 03:35 AM
fab highlights
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5VFCU1VfCg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oeZExYMM68
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olv3SjOXbSE
(over a beat that haunted me bad whn i was 15. endless rewinds.)

the thing about noz is he has the chops. hes not a great writer but hes proficient, hs a professional. i think part of the problem im trying to describe is bloggers trying to ape this kind of easy profssionalism without having developed the chops which i presume comes with having had editors and so in his life and mayb just bing more literate/smarter than thee others, mayb even just being older, i dont know. its sort of sweet and endearing when people write bad attmepts at journalism in a way. like blackdowns blog is often like that.( i shouldnt say that but he dosnt read the rap thread so i thinkk its ok.) its sweet but its a bit sad at th sam time. its jus the kid that tries rally hard and is really earnest but not really very taleneted. o they gt a special prize at the end of th year. best trier award. thats laudable, thats admirable but who wants a bst trier award?
gonna move to eqstrian dro now.

luka
22-04-2011, 03:37 AM
i did a blog from 03 to abt 05. not long. i wrote about grime. probably that was th first grime blog. i never saw another. it doesnt exist anymore. you cant find it.

luka
22-04-2011, 03:38 AM
i did a blog from 02 or 03 to abt 05. not long. i wrote about grime. probably that was th first grime blog. i never saw another. it doesnt exist anymore. you cant find it. im glad cos it was embaressing in a way bcasue i had this ideological commitement to knowingly exposing my gaucherie or something i think if i remember rightly. i wrot about grime and newham and put some funny poems and stuff in there that evryon hated. that made me put more poems in.

luka
22-04-2011, 03:43 AM
oh shit first track off young dro worth the whole fabolus mixtape.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXl7vebhNgg

Corpsey
22-04-2011, 03:49 AM
That's a shame about your blog, I'd like to have read it.

I LOVE this 'mo harlem mo southside' beat.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0B4tZaMCYt8

What's the original tune - Nas and AZ? Just been reading a thread on a rap forum about this tune, ppl saying Banks killed Fab/Vado. Thing is Banks sounds wheezy and weak on it, like he's smoked a thousand fags and is now evaporating from the throat outwards. Personally I think Fab sounds best on it (''we making movies you sit on couches pressing ''play'').

luka
22-04-2011, 03:51 AM
off doe or die. az featuring nas yeah. he does sound like some fucked up asthmatic doesent he, weird.

Corpsey
22-04-2011, 04:02 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gwtCEtnm6g

here it is

okay i have to go to bed now - was nice chatting luka!

CrowleyHead
22-04-2011, 05:17 AM
Hey Luka? I'm actually one of said No Jumper writers. And no shots or anything like that because you're totally entitled to your opinion, but I was wondering if I did actually come across as talking down to people? Only because it's possibly the only time I'll probably hear proper criticism of all the writing I've done.

luka
22-04-2011, 06:22 AM
i dont know. i was talking off the cuff. i really dont like giving people feedback on what they do cos i come across as a patronising cunt and they get hurt. i refuse to do it now for my friends. but i dont know you so i will do it. i have read most things on that site. i just hav to work out whats you.....

Benny B
22-04-2011, 07:26 AM
like when you write something for a blog read it over and think does this sound like i am trying to suck up to the teacher. beacuse 99% of music blogs try to suck up to the teacher. that dosnt mean being dumb it means being smart but in a different way. thats just my feling

This is what I used to really like about Woebot's blog. Even thouigh half the time he'd be talking about some obscurity that I'd probably never hear, he'd never talk down to you about it, he'd just get straight down to the nitty gritty about what it meant to him and because it was in his own genuine voice it still kept you reading. plus it helps alot if you're naturally funny and talented obviously. Good writers can also go off on mad tangents and make outrageous comparisons and still hold your attention (see also Lester bangs), although I suppose you can't really do that nowadays if you're writing for a magazine. That was the reason blogs were so good, they had that freedom.

And like luka sez, if you don't have that sort of natural charm in your writing, you have to be a professional to get away with it, to justify your existence. There's nothing worse than poor journalism, or someone who thinks they're funny when they're not.

I only ever saw little snatches of heronbone quoted in other peoples blogs, but it looked great and unique.

Ah! Remember that massive hip hop epic that Woebot did once? I really miss blogs like that!

Also, wht are the best hip hop blogs other that CB? Can we have a definitive list please? Thanks

luka
22-04-2011, 08:39 AM
best hiphop blogs are
nahright/2 dope boyz

these two dont talk about what they post. they just post huge amounts of videos/sound files. i guess you could include world star hiphop in this too. there is always good music to be found on these sites.

geoge bush money/no jumper
even though i was slagging them off a bit i really like them. they know more about hiphop than me or at the very leaest know about areas of hiphop i dont know about. they put effort into writing and thinking about music rather than posting videos. as i said before i was very pleased to read the reviw of gucci's chicken talk and the doe pesci appreciation. this kind of thing is great. the writing will get more confident anyway and i dont need it to be great in any case.

realniggatumblr/guttaboyjihad
these two are fans of 'aggressive content' they are pretty funny. lots of good scans from old rap mags and both have an identifiable aesthetic. you understand where they are coming from.

spaceagedancing
this is perhaps edging towards hipster crossover territory. it has a slicker aesthetic than most other blogs. theres another one i wanted to pair with this but iv forgotten the name of it. they are big main attrakionz/clams casino fans.

martorialist.
basically if you ever read hhc in the 90s you will be on familiar territory. no identifiable aestheitc. all over the place actually. you will hear some good records here but its a bit of a hotch-potch.

steady bloggin
this is associatd with the philaflava forums which are full of dickheads but which i occasionally look at to see if they have found out about anything interesting before me. th blog is more worthy of your time than the forums.

southern hospitality.
typical 'new london' trend hoppers. obnoxious and corny without their own identity but plenty of good videos to watch. probably originate from milton keynes/stevenage/bournmouth etc

dirtnap2
corpsey. say no more.

grandgood
tilted to the independents and the boom bap.

yayodancing
sheds light on things you might have missed cos you cant notice everyhting in life. done the bulk of the work on georgebush$

lattisawtapes
a slightly more classicist take on hip-hop. more conserevative perhaps than other blogs. seems like its written by someone older perhaps.

fakeshoredrive
actually i barely check this.

dirtyglovebastard.
large amounts of posts. little analysis or personal content but with an aesthetic. it has an identity. it specialises in posting things by artists i never heard of. i check this one about every 2nd day.

somanyshrimp
i usd to read this. got a feeling its in semi retirement. worth having a look to find out.
also i often read the rap threads on ilx and random forums. im sure i missd some though.

Benny B
22-04-2011, 09:11 AM
cheers, just checking out RNT for the first time and its got me chuckling. Someone wrote this on there:

"I don’t know I like my white people wholesome and joyful with a vast knowledge of the history of internet meme’s and shit puttin me onto music that Fader writes articles on n shit. You know white people that keep me balanced and cultured not on no violent shit."

Thats funny!

Corpsey
22-04-2011, 01:40 PM
It's all written by one guy

http://twitter.com/#!/eastsidestevie

http://www.realniggatumblr.com/post/2449027537/redman-gilla-house-check-smack-dvd-vol-9

Rap culture is full of hilarious stuff. Rap forums are funny, too, if you can tolerate constant racism/homophobia/sexism etc. (kinda like the music actually)...

i.e. http://forums.projectcovo.com/showthread.php?t=1925131 the Jeezy does a movie photoshop thread

http://i42.tinypic.com/2qmqjkn.jpg

Martorialist is the funniest rap blog other than RNT for me. I'm pretty sure its written by a Brit, probably (as Luka says) an ex-HHC scribe.

Corpsey
22-04-2011, 01:46 PM
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p142/hampsoncb/Jeezys/JeezyRightStuff.jpg

CrowleyHead
22-04-2011, 04:31 PM
i dont know. i was talking off the cuff. i really dont like giving people feedback on what they do cos i come across as a patronising cunt and they get hurt. i refuse to do it now for my friends. but i dont know you so i will do it. i have read most things on that site. i just hav to work out whats you.....

I should've specified: I'm the guy who did the Sha Stimuli interview and the Hawaiian Snow review.

I'd even appreciate patronization at this point, because I've only gotten positive comments from people I sorta know.

luka
23-04-2011, 02:39 AM
friends turned up at my door just as i was about to get into that crowleyhead. i'll say something helpful today. did you hav a solo blog prior to nojumpere?

luka
23-04-2011, 02:45 AM
friends turned up at my door just as i was about to get into that crowleyhead. i'll say something helpful today. did you hav a solo blog prior to nojumpere?

luka
23-04-2011, 02:48 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Be44f1V72Mc

i stole this off a blog i was just rude about. shameless behaviour. funny song.
i go Nandos, peri-peri/i kiss a girl, Katy Perry

luka
23-04-2011, 07:14 AM
crowley you got me nervous to be honest. ive decided im not gonna do it on a public forum. email me.
heronbone at gmail

luka
23-04-2011, 12:52 PM
i got the wire today so i could read the noz thing on bedroom rap. its a good article. talks about people i never heard of. they're not verey good really (its indie music in the classic sense, lo-fi, aimless, unambitious. interestingly reynolds cover article is about indie music too. i dont really enjoy indie music as a rule. toop has a very dense looking thing on mellow soul that looks good but i couldnt be bothered with it at the time) but its an interesting article. i think i first found cocaine blunts through trying to find audio of the casual vs saafir battle quite a long time ago. seems to have a strong attachment to th west coast underground.
http://www.cocaineblunts.com/blunts/?p=63

on a sidenote, although the wire is not an ugly magazine it has always had the worst photography of any magazine i have ever seen.

CrowleyHead
23-04-2011, 03:29 PM
At the same time, it's kinda nice to see a return to indie rap on a minor level. post-Kanye, it seemed everyone was just making 'underground commercial' strictly, as hipster rappers kept getting signed and having hits and everyone seemed to just want to make music that could get fans... These guys show that there are still people making music that they think is unique...

Left Lebbera doesn't interest me that much though admittedly, nor Pyramid Vitira. But Main Attrakionz did put out like, THE BEST ALBUM THIS YEAR so far. They've been so prolific, I wonder why they don't blow up nearly as well as they do. I mean... I think Legion Of Doom hasn't gotten past 10,000 youtube views yet. I guess they really need to put out their legitimate LP now or something.

Issue is... Issue. It's reinforcing based music, so either people are going to think it's great or inessential.

luka
23-04-2011, 04:49 PM
the ones i had heard of, main attrakionz among them, i like to varying degrees.

crowley i sent you an email.

CrowleyHead
23-04-2011, 06:42 PM
I replied. Thanks again luka.

I'm annoyed that the west coast has such a thriving indie rap vibe bubbling and out east... We have relatively nothing. Yes, we have KKK but that's more of an OF off-shoot if anything. Maybe hipster culture is just too pervasive in NYC, so you either have to be doing Chiddy Bang music, or still doing classic 'hood rap'. You would figure with Def Jux closing it's doors and Fat Beats closing up shop, there'd be a demand for this stuff, but no. Nothing.

luka
24-04-2011, 02:21 AM
i always felt the west had a better underground though to be honest. definetly more weirdos and hippies. mayb it is to do with hipsterism and the inability to be earnest in some degree. i dont know. i worry about london getting swallowed by that. its had such a good run....

CrowleyHead
24-04-2011, 08:15 AM
As far as 'indie' rap... yes and no? Theirs was more crew based, and ours more individual (for example, Kool Keith, Aesop Rock and MF Doom as opposed to Hiero, Project Blowed & Living Legends). Maybe the weird New Yorkers will have to band together this time around.

I realize I forgot about Das Racist, but I kind of look at them as a sort of death-knell of NYC Indie Rap in it's classic sense. It's a group made of the fans of that music, making jokes about the people those fans and the people who ran the label, turned into... A celebration of adulthood's corruption. There's something sort of gross and un-hip-hop about it.

luka
24-04-2011, 03:14 PM
this is a lil boosie video. if you are a fan of lil boosie on facebook you will hav had this sent to you too,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-eNmjgfaKM

gumdrops
26-04-2011, 09:23 AM
re: west coast underground rap, noz did a good thing by banging on about freestyle fellowship so much it made me find my cd of their first album. hes right. they are/were really amazing mcs, allowing for a few not so great typical early 90s acid jazzish live backings. i dont know why i never liked them at the time, cos i loved the liks, saafir, del and heiros etc. think its cos at the time they were seen as technically great, but with nothing beneath that (which is still wrong anyway).

luka
26-04-2011, 09:47 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TF8-oX3l59s

the bllog i heard this on said
'This is one of the most astounding beats I’ve heard. I don’t think I’ve ever heard anything else before that reminds me of it. I have no idea if this was a song or mixtape that got any attention when it dropped. I really doubt it. Back On My Buck Shit Vol. 2 - Change Of Plans?? It came out last fall? But I would like to hear an entire instrumental album of beats from Drumma Boy that sounded exactly like this. It’s like trap jazz or something.' it is pretty nuts, i nvere heard anything like it ither

luka
26-04-2011, 10:31 AM
gumdrops i often think that you are th person on here that got th most similar musical history to me. maybe not suprising cos were probably th same age and grew up down the road from one another.
i got on freestlye fellowship album too. i dont know if its thee 1st or 2nd. it has bo0undaries on it and thats th rason i got it cos that song was featured on th sounth bank show they dedicated to hiphop in about 1992 which i taped and watched repeatedly. that song sounded amazing with some footage of b-boys dancing. it was presented by melle mel.

luka
26-04-2011, 10:54 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnynCZXqlI8

noreaga. hook taken from prodigy intereview promoting his recent autobiiography.

gumdrops
26-04-2011, 11:00 AM
i loved that south bank show! (tho it was only me and my best mate at the time who watched it - everyone else in my school was into oasis and blur lol). dont know where my video of it is now, but i hunted down a bootleg of wildstyle after seeing that double trouble routine on there. edit - its on youtube (obviously).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D1k4usDeVc&feature=related
got to be one of the best tag team raps ever.

i have inner city griots from FF - some of what ive heard is a bit over animated/frisky in that sort of cutesy early 90s way (boundaries is them being pretty laid back) but i still like it. thats also prob cos ive listened to too many comatose thug rap guys. im going to find their first album now.

ps - that young buck/game beat is weird. like jazz crunk.

luka
26-04-2011, 12:17 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsnUeAvN0RM
everyones loving this. obama? someone said puffy, cant remember who. who knows....
(prodigy-black devil)
i said i wouldnt bother with this but i might have to listen to it now cos this is good too
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnRoETnXL58&feature=related

luka
26-04-2011, 12:34 PM
actually i changed my mind, not gonna bother. he sound a bit shit on it.

gumdrops
26-04-2011, 12:42 PM
prodigy just sleepwalks through everything he does these days
great taste in beats though

luka
26-04-2011, 01:17 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBcFWvOM210
hes quite good on this tho

BareBones
26-04-2011, 04:07 PM
equestrian dro covere is deep. .

i was going about this pages ago. i wouldn't normally say something like this but it's probably the only time i'm gonna be first about anything on this thread so i'm gonna allow myself to be smug for a moment. anyway yeah it's a good mixtape but the cover just kills it.

daddek
26-04-2011, 05:20 PM
i have inner city griots from FF - some of what ive heard is a bit over animated/frisky in that sort of cutesy early 90s way (boundaries is them being pretty laid back) but i still like it. thats also prob cos ive listened to too many comatose thug rap guys. im going to find their first album now.

well in p.e.a.c.e. they (freestyle fellowship) also had a slight southern gangsta element, but it was very much in the background. except for this great 666ish track http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6y0Liz8M6KM. peace did some more overt south g stuff later but it was bit iffy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UDVRW0Fl1Y

daddek
26-04-2011, 05:32 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBcFWvOM210
hes quite good on this tho

Tony Yayo is one of my fav rapper of recent years.. (if i really cherry pick his output). he's often got great taste in production, and often partners with more out-there dudes, people like lil b & danny brown. plus i can never quite believe that he's as mean as he makes out, despite the g talk he somehow sounds like a nice chap.

luka
27-04-2011, 04:38 AM
i was going about this pages ago. i wouldn't normally say something like this but it's probably the only time i'm gonna be first about anything on this thread so i'm gonna allow myself to be smug for a moment. anyway yeah it's a good mixtape but the cover just kills it.


haha i always shamlssly say things like this dont i so in this instance i must humbly prostrate myself before you. i should hav paid attention when you said it origningally.

luka
27-04-2011, 07:39 AM
pick and mix
random stuff i like a lot not box fresh or necessarily fashionable (or neccessarily unfashionable) just stumbling around blogs, livemixtapes.com and youtube in a haphazard fashion

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LG4at0IzMMY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORB2cS69lEk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKOOe-oK2vs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAhC2yvD3tQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqYgfX6dfxc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsEMrGFht3o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvJDdxnH2xk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXl7vebhNgg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VMaF2n1ym4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAT1ouorbMk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tYMAwN73Lw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZ3CcRKxG04

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-FptXjPCzI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0gCRVxlfDc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAtmbw8DbPQ

luka
27-04-2011, 11:06 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhBMcBrLUBA

luka
27-04-2011, 11:52 AM
daddek, if you are evere bored and have nothing better to do can you do th cherry picking for me and prsent m with a fw of yayos finest moments. i cant pretend to hav followed his career. dont worry if you cant be fucked, thats understandable.

BareBones
27-04-2011, 12:04 PM
chrissakes luka can we have more intellectual discussion and less music please?

luka
27-04-2011, 12:58 PM
if i ever find i have anything intelligent to say i will say it. the chances of that happening are slim tho.

BareBones
27-04-2011, 03:07 PM
also on an equestrian vibe:

http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_leu1ikMDOT1qdr0b4o1_500.jpg

(taken from http://magicalrappers.tumblr.com/ )

daddek
27-04-2011, 04:42 PM
daddek, if you are evere bored and have nothing better to do can you do th cherry picking for me and prsent m with a fw of yayos finest moments. i cant pretend to hav followed his career. dont worry if you cant be fucked, thats understandable.

sure. im sorry that i dont have time to dig out the youtube links as i must dash out in a moment
but from public enemy mixtape 2009: "gang life" "public enemy" "gang life pt2", from Hawaiian Snow mixtape w Danny Brown "So High" "On one" "OMG" "My cup" and "cyclops", from Gunpowder Guru album "King of the Pyrex" and "Southside".. these are all on rotation at mine atm. there's a gang of stuff on youtube that ive heard, hopefully i can find the links later.
Hawaiian Snow mixtape is one of my fav mixtapes this year and last for sure.
apologies for not doing the digging right now.

Corpsey
27-04-2011, 06:55 PM
Pretty sure yayodancing (no jumper) is a huge yayo fan, could ask him what he thinks.

There are some priceless lines on Hawaian Snow - 'Robbing hoods. Robin hood. Russell Crowe''. He kinda holds his own against Danny Brown on ridiculous imagery alone, though I'd consider Danny by far the better rapper. ''My Life's The Shit'' ''My Cup'' and


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Mn7KgU3s08

(posted this before but its worth it)

Luka I'm gonna go through those youtube links later.

4linehaiku
28-04-2011, 11:21 AM
You got a working download link for Hawaiian Snow? My brief google search only turned up expired ones, and it's not on datpiff.

Over the last few commutes I have listened to Young Dro - Equestrian Dro, Jae Millz - The Flood and Wooh Da Kid - Strap-A-Holics. The Wooh Da Kid one is the best imo, though Dro is streets ahead in the cover game. I rate quite a few of the Southside On The Track beats, but I don't know which ones because I wasn't looking at the titles. That's my incredibly poor attempt at a 'review' there for you.

daddek
28-04-2011, 11:36 AM
lol

well hawaiian snow + *edit--- came up with *edit---- oops its wasnt given out as a free mixtape, shit. its on itunes store & spotify tho.
should say as a disclamer that yayo is not entirely un-wack. we're talking g-unit after all (never dug lloyd banks much). but I think the qualities that i find likebale about him are the same that some people are irritated by - judging by yt haterism "tony yayo, always losing".
tbh if he worked with doe pesci less often, i'd be listening less. cool combination tho.

luka
28-04-2011, 01:03 PM
daddek song titles is fine. dont worry about youtube links. i know how to operate the intrent. thank you very much.
corpsey i dont know yayodancing and i dont introduce myself to people who have never heard of me ever under any circumstances.

daddek
28-04-2011, 01:18 PM
having just skipped thru his 2005 album, the internet's "tony yayo, LOL" consensus is suddenly less of a mystery. his delivery was basically witless shouting over tacky beats. why are rappers so apathetic toward their own body of work. looks like he's re-evaluated his approach recently however, somewhat.

BareBones
28-04-2011, 02:36 PM
although i haven't been crazy about a lot of the main attrakionz stuff, i'm really enjoying that dope since '91 mixtape.

and yeah covert coup is wicked, liking that one a lot, especially 'the type' and 'double 07'

4linehaiku
28-04-2011, 03:43 PM
Corpsey's Max B review for Fact: http://www.factmag.com/2011/04/28/max-b-vigilante-season/

CrowleyHead
28-04-2011, 04:19 PM
Basically, Yayo was always the goonish counter-point to 50's balance between him and the lyrical robotic no-personality approach of Lloyd Banks. For me as an occasional fan of Yayo, his advantage has always been his ignorance. There was one song of the mixtapes a year or two ago, where he rapped "That's a fucked up way to die. That's a fucked up way to die. Now you're dead." Hilarious.

But that said, his material under his solo-work has been increasing more and more in quality. I think because he knows he's not a commercially viable artist, he doesn't need to try and compete in a commercial rapper sense a la Banks/50, so he's remodeling himself into a sort of champion of grimy/dark NYC vibes. And it's good on him, especially when paired with more energetic characters like Brown or Uncle Murda. He's also kind of a genius for putting Lil' B on his shit and embracing the guy so openly, because it shows he's more in touch with what's going on than say 50.

BareBones
28-04-2011, 04:46 PM
Corpsey's Max B review for Fact: http://www.factmag.com/2011/04/28/max-b-vigilante-season/

big up corpsey! it really is a wicked album.

stephenk
28-04-2011, 06:04 PM
great review man

luka
29-04-2011, 08:51 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WmUDTkBpRs

does anyone have an opinion on the big krit thing? it seems a bit fashionabl to slag it off. to m youre dumb if you slag it off. this is undeniable.

luka
29-04-2011, 09:14 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHlnLn7aBlo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pkjynt8mCnw

Corpsey
29-04-2011, 07:52 PM
From your list earlier luka I hadn't heard and really like L.E.P. Bogus Boys ft. Gucci - Handlin My Bizness (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAT1ouorbMk), Big K.R.I.T.'s - Dreaming (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqYgfX6dfxc) and Jae Millz - Mean (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LG4at0IzMMY). You also reminded me why I need to get on with getting properly into 'Covert Coup (that beat for ''The Type'' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvJDdxnH2xk)!) and the Richboy mixtape ('Street Champs' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZ3CcRKxG04)).

I've got that K.R.I.T. tape too, just another one I've never really got into.

edit: Oh, and ''Bussin'' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5ZhbOjdKi0) by Trouble is also big big big...

Corpsey
29-04-2011, 08:02 PM
great review man

cheers!

Corpsey
29-04-2011, 08:05 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aI8KEkqLBzI&feature=player_embedded#at=15

Was quite pleasantly surprised by this one. Eminem's weird, he impresses and irritates me in almost equal measure.

bandshell
29-04-2011, 08:21 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aI8KEkqLBzI&feature=player_embedded#at=15

Was quite pleasantly surprised by this one. Eminem's weird, he impresses and irritates me in almost equal measure.

I always find it strange hearing him on beats other than Dre's, but this is big.

I've always liked Eminem. Got a soft spot for him. The Slim Shady and Marshall Mathers LP's are still great. Been playing them again recently. One of my favourite lyricists. Cracks me up.

daddek
29-04-2011, 08:31 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WmUDTkBpRs

does anyone have an opinion on the big krit thing? it seems a bit fashionabl to slag it off. to m youre dumb if you slag it off. this is undeniable.

kind of in that same kendrick lamar vein right?. like, everyday guy rap, without being overly soft, creative lyrics, mostly smooth but still some more street tracks.. thats the impression i got anyway. Nice but a little overly slick for my preferences, those south producers tend to do the glossy airbrushed studio production thing on more 'musical' projects (eg aquemini), plus his delivery isnt very angular so its like smooth + smooth. Kind of cool how he keeps that choppy gangsta bounce delivery even when he's being introspective and self depreciating. plus i need more everyday rap in my life after so long listening to fantasist* coke rap.
*compared to my average day anyway


i heard that old please stand up tune by eminem in a family cafe the other day, reminded me that he was once one of the most technically excellent rappers

Benny B
29-04-2011, 11:29 PM
I always find it strange hearing him on beats other than Dre's, but this is big.

I've always liked Eminem. Got a soft spot for him. The Slim Shady and Marshall Mathers LP's are still great. Been playing them again recently. One of my favourite lyricists. Cracks me up. Had on marshall mathers Lp last night on a whim and was astonished by how great some of it still is, especially 'Kill you'..not so much Stan or 'Real Slim Shady' though. They haven't aged well at all.

Benny B
29-04-2011, 11:46 PM
You have to admit he was good


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6Lg0EDz8QE&feature=related