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baboon2004
24-03-2011, 02:32 PM
Who's going? I can't cos I'm out of the country, but I hear figures of 300,000 being mooted.

john eden
24-03-2011, 02:54 PM
I am going, as are the other two members of my family unit.

I'm leafletting my workplace tomorrow morning as well. Righteous!

sufi
24-03-2011, 07:20 PM
me too, for what it's worth

crackerjack
24-03-2011, 09:07 PM
I'll be there, at least until 3pm when I'm popping to the pub with a Welshman to watch the football

DannyL
24-03-2011, 09:23 PM
I'm going! I think all the occupations are going off down Oxford Street so hat's wgere the trouble will be. Avoid/attend as you wish.

mistersloane
24-03-2011, 10:13 PM
I'll be going dressed up as a policeman so I can beat up some Radiohead fans.

grizzleb
24-03-2011, 11:31 PM
I'm going...my mum is coming down from glasgow for it - should good!

crackerjack
25-03-2011, 12:04 PM
so does anyone know any good places to wtach the football in the vicinity of the march?

(apologies for going off-tone)

bunnyhausen
25-03-2011, 01:16 PM
The family bunnyhausen will be attending, you'll be glad to hear.

martin
25-03-2011, 01:32 PM
Count me in, probably down Oxford St first. Play it by ear from thereon in, I guess...

IdleRich
25-03-2011, 04:04 PM
I think that pretty much everyone I know is going. Not me though, I'll be fighting back against The Man in my own idiosyncratic way by standing outside Pret a Manger in Maidstone and counting people going in.

sufi
27-03-2011, 12:52 AM
tomorrow's front pages - 'the inevitable aftermath'

10.42pm: (http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/blog/2011/mar/26/march-for-the-alternative-live-blog-updates#block-27) The Mail on Sunday's front page focuses on the damage done to the Ritz Hotel, while the Sunday Mirror concentrate on the earlier, peaceful aspect of the march. The Sunday Times and Sunday Telegraph also focus on the violence. The Independent on Sunday have a clever front page questioning the media's focus on 'the inevitable aftermath', while the Observer leads on the march and rally.

craner
27-03-2011, 10:42 AM
Have you been causing trouble again, Sufi?

Dr Awesome
27-03-2011, 11:19 AM
Pardon my ignorant colonialism, but I checked the BBC website earlier today to follow up on the whole commotion, and couldn't find any reference to it.

Is this to be expected? As a non-englishman I automatically head to the BBC to find out information about the ewe kay, and frankly was a little disappointed to find no mention of what sounds like a rather important event.

(nb; it's now showing up in the politics section, still).

john eden
28-03-2011, 10:14 AM
What sort of follow up were you expecting? In terms of politics or news coverage?

Plenty of the latter now I think... all wrong though. ;)

IdleRich
28-03-2011, 10:36 AM
My friend who is also foreign and sees the bbc as a good source of information was saying yesterday how surprised she was by the lack of coverage on the website.

mistersloane
28-03-2011, 05:26 PM
There was a great live interview on the BBC with one of their guys from Trafalgar Square about 7.30 in the evening which was hijacked by a couple of kids going 'GOVERNMENT PROPAGANDA!' and coughing 'horseshit' alot. It was very funny. I doubt it's been archived.

sufi
28-03-2011, 05:39 PM
Have you been causing trouble again, Sufi?
as much as possible!
actually the atmosphere of the day felt really cheerful and not threatening, no kettling, minimal police violence, which just goes to show who are the really experts on rioting
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5186/5562573486_37544f77c5_z.jpg

Tentative Andy
28-03-2011, 07:51 PM
I suspect I'm preaching to the converted here, but the way UK Uncut have been treated has been pretty shit, hasn't it? (By both the police and some of the media).

crackerjack
28-03-2011, 08:00 PM
I suspect I'm preaching to the converted here, but the way UK Uncut have been treated has been pretty shit, hasn't it? (By both the police and some of the media).

Yes. Some of it is justified - Fortnum & Mason seems to have been a misjudged target (though I'm certainly no tax lawyer) and having a spokeswoman justify with reference to the super-rich and Royal Family is superdumb. I'm also not convinced of the wisdom of staging a protest on that day so near the park.

But people are now lumping them in with the Black Bloc and – worse! – the SWP. They deserve better than that.

edit: Johann Hari has just tweeted this:

Daily Mail has had to take down their libellous smear piece about @ukuncut blaming them 4 violence of others. 1st step in correcting record
Did anyone see the Mail piece?

Dr Awesome
28-03-2011, 08:30 PM
What sort of follow up were you expecting? In terms of politics or news coverage?

Plenty of the latter now I think... all wrong though. ;)

Well I expected neutral coverage, I found basically no coverage at all.
It was almost as though nobody told them anything was going to happen and they had flat feet or something.

I get the distinct impression you lot don't find the BBC to be as neutral as the rest of the world views it?

mistersloane
28-03-2011, 09:15 PM
Yes. Some of it is justified - Fortnum & Mason seems to have been a misjudged target (though I'm certainly no tax lawyer) and having a spokeswoman justify with reference to the super-rich and Royal Family is superdumb. I'm also not convinced of the wisdom of staging a protest on that day so near the park.


Yeah I was disappointed at that, I thought we'd gone beyond eat the rich. Not that that's NOT a good idea, but...

TimWorstall and comments are quite interesting re the tax thing :

http://timworstall.com/2011/03/26/ukuncut-occupying-fortum-and-mason/

mistersloane
28-03-2011, 09:18 PM
I get the distinct impression you lot don't find the BBC to be as neutral as the rest of the world views it?

No, it's not unbiased anymore; it often reads like pravda, though not necessarily for the government, more like the upholders of a mythical status quo. I increasingly find their news reporting unbearably simplistic, compared with Al-Jazeera, though the B has some great talk pieces. There was a great Trisha-style show on homosexuality and Africa on a while back.

crackerjack
28-03-2011, 09:40 PM
So the Met told a stack of lies to get them out of F&M with no damage to the precious things.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/mar/28/cuts-protest-uk-uncut-fortnum

That's a trick that'll only work once.

john eden
29-03-2011, 04:14 PM
Well I expected neutral coverage, I found basically no coverage at all.
It was almost as though nobody told them anything was going to happen and they had flat feet or something.

I get the distinct impression you lot don't find the BBC to be as neutral as the rest of the world views it?

I don't think many people have seen the BBC's news coverage as neutral for a good while. Certainly they've been on the back foot since the gulf war. There are a few reasons for this, but one significant one is that they are fearful for their their funding - lots of Murdoch media sponsored people claiming the TV Licence is a monopoly and unfair competition.

Coverage of protest is generally quite rubbish and it is very rare indeed for someone from a trade union to get a fair hearing on the BBC when strike action is being considered.

baboon2004
09-05-2011, 03:46 PM
Popped along to the demo outside Atos International/Atos healthcare this lunchtime. They're the french company who have the contract for doing the medical tests for moving people from Incapacity Benefit to the newspeak Employment and Support Allowance. Generally they're fascist cunts making money off the back of vulnerable people's misery, and the fact they're french-owned further gives the lie to the idea that privatisation even has anything to do with benefitting Britain (obv it's a bad thign anyways, but the hypocrisy is staggering).

69 per cent of people tested have been refused ESA and have to claim JSA instead (25 a week less, if I'm right). In 40 per cent of those cases where this has been appealed, the original verdict has been thrown out by the courts, showing full well that everyone knows this process is biased and fucked, and that the whole set-up, though not a 'conspiracy' as such, is clearly providing a gravy train for private companies and lawyers.

Facebook page said 500ish would be there; sadly more like 80 people....Guardian journalist was meant to be there, so hoepfully he was and this will get coverage tomorrow.

Obviously police there in abundance, in case people started rolling menacingly towards the building.

baboon2004
09-05-2011, 03:50 PM
I get the distinct impression you lot don't find the BBC to be as neutral as the rest of the world views it?

I think BBC World is much better than the res tof the BBC, or at least I strongly get that impression. As soon as it becomes domestic politics covered by the regular BBC, it becomes shit.