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connect_icut
09-05-2012, 06:50 AM
Bit of a departure (to say the least) but bloody brilliant. I won't spoil the surprise. Just get it and discuss.

http://music.woebot.com/

Wonder if Matt reads this forum anymore. If so: I salute you sir!

luka
09-05-2012, 10:24 AM
hes singing. he must have gone mad.

craner
09-05-2012, 11:16 AM
Singing?

craner
09-05-2012, 11:21 AM
It's very good. Don't be such a nark. If Ian Crause can sing on his records, why can't Matt?

blacktulip
09-05-2012, 12:13 PM
Sounds like an exercise in restraint. For some reason This Heat comes to mind.

IdleRich
09-05-2012, 12:23 PM
Liking it so far.... oh singing has just kicked in. Kinda brave to sing I think, makes it much more personal somehow.

connect_icut
09-05-2012, 06:28 PM
I like it a lot. Very brave. Primitive musically but beautifully realised.

Reminded me at times of The Shadow Ring, Ekkehard Ehlers' "A Life Without Fear" and Adam Jansch (son of Bert). The vocals really remind me of something else but I'm not sure what. Not Syd Barret but something like that.

Leo
09-05-2012, 06:54 PM
ha...posted a link to this on his bandcamp yesterday in the "currently listening to " thread. interesting, i like.

Mr. Tea
09-05-2012, 07:21 PM
Mm, I like it - very spar(s)e, sort of fragile-sounding but not in a precious way.

Leo
09-05-2012, 07:27 PM
Mm, I like it - very spar(s)e, sort of fragile-sounding but not in a precious way.

he's non-twee, in other words. ;)

connect_icut
09-05-2012, 07:39 PM
he's non-twee, in other words. ;)

Hmmm... Actually, I think it might actually be a little twee. In a good way. The real classic, founding documents of twee rock (Barrett, Beat Happening...) have a innocent surface and an undercurrent of despair/darkness. I hear that here.

Mr. Tea
09-05-2012, 09:11 PM
Aargh, I was deliberately avoiding the T-word.

Right, I'm not into Belle & Sebastian but I remember in the Twee thread (before it degenerated into an argument about whether or not jam enthusiasts are worse than Nazis) some B&S fans saying that although they pioneered the twee aesthetic, they're actually very untwee exactly because of this dark undercurrent. While real hardcore tweeness, if that's not an oxymoron, is all about what a lovely day it is and how pretty that girl is and ooh look a butterfly and hey let's build a campfire! Or so the argument goes.

Whereas (based on one listen of three songs) I wouldn't say Woebot's stuff is twee. More glacial actually, some of it was even skirting Joy Division territory. Maybe.

connect_icut
09-05-2012, 10:18 PM
I guess I'm saying the opposite: the real pioneers of the twee aesthetic (Beat Happening, The Pastels and later B&S) always had a dark undercurrent. The kitsch version of the aesthetic, I would mostly associate with attempts to co-opt that aesthetic to sell yoghurt. Anyway, I am not part of the Dissensus TGF (Twee Genocide Faction).

The Joy Division comparison makes sense but I would say that Hallo is closer to the bedroom-recording/Messtheitcs end of post-punk.

Benny B
09-05-2012, 10:19 PM
The vocals really remind me of something else but I'm not sure what. Not Syd Barret but something like that.

I was thinking Brian Eno circa 'Taking tiger Mountain' ...a little bit.

I like what I've heard and it is quite sensibly priced at 5 quid so i might even buy it. His recent book about 70s rock was excellent too.

Is the whole album like those preview tracks, or are there more sample based tracks like his other stuff? And is he playing drums and guitar now or what?

Leo
09-05-2012, 11:06 PM
Is the whole album like those preview tracks, or are there more sample based tracks like his other stuff? And is he playing drums and guitar now or what?

yeah, the whole album is like that. there's none of the sample-based stuff like he's done in the past.

connect_icut
10-05-2012, 12:08 AM
I was thinking Brian Eno circa 'Taking tiger Mountain' ...a little bit.

Oh yeah, it might have been Eno I was thinking of.

Maybe "whimsical" is a better word than "twee" for what's going on here.

luka
10-05-2012, 07:47 AM
what does nark mean in the context? i have never heard it used in this context before. do you mean dont be snarky?

craner
10-05-2012, 10:20 AM
Yes, I think I do.

luka
10-05-2012, 10:40 AM
ok. i will try.

mistersloane
10-05-2012, 11:15 AM
Urban Dictionary :

nark
1. noun-- Australian term -- one who complains and spoils other people's enjoyment
2. verb-- British term -- to annoy someone or spoil their enjoyment
1. That nark really put a damper on this message board. We can't discuss anything without him starting an argument.

luka
10-05-2012, 11:28 AM
yes who would want an argument on a message board?

mistersloane
10-05-2012, 12:47 PM
Direct quote from Urban Dictionary. Made me laugh given the context.

luka
10-05-2012, 12:59 PM
thought you were trying to pick a fight. maybe im paranoid.

Mr. Tea
10-05-2012, 01:32 PM
maybe im paranoid.

Funny, I've heard a few people say that about you lately.

luka
10-05-2012, 02:21 PM
yeah i thought they were talking about me. i could sense it in their eyes.

connect_icut
12-05-2012, 10:51 PM
Listening again. Loving it. I wish John Peel was alive to hear this!

mistersloane
14-05-2012, 12:37 AM
thought you were trying to pick a fight. maybe im paranoid.

No, not at all. Looked it up on the net cos I use 'narky' sometimes and the Urban D definition made me laugh cos of context, no personal symbolic resonance intended.

Leo
11-06-2012, 01:47 PM
great lyrics


http://vimeo.com/43745099