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Corpsey
30-08-2012, 08:36 PM
Anyone been reading this? (http://www.ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?action=showall&boardid=41&threadid=93382) They're doing one for the 90's soon, too (http://www.ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?boardid=41&threadid=92779#unread).

It's a good source for tracks I've never heard, although a fair few of them make me go ''hmfff?!'' like a dog would if you dangled a steak on a string from a window in front of its nose and kept yanking it up everytime the poor confused pooch was getting ready to take a bite. Probably shows how different Dissensian taste (if there is such a thing) is from ILX, because I can imagine a poll by us would consist mostly of garage, UK funky, dubstep etc.

Could we do a poll like this? Are there enough of us to make it interesting? Is making a big site-canonical list like this a fundamentally anti-Dissensian thing to do? Maybe we'd all enjoy it more if we made another ''sacred cows'' thread and slagged off everything again. Actually, I probably would, as well.

Benny B
30-08-2012, 08:56 PM
Yeah I've seen that thread, keep meaning to spend some time checking out the tracks I've never heard. Shamefully I hadn't even heard the number 1 choice before!

ILX posters are utterly obsessed with lists and polls in a way that Dissensus isn't really. I'm not sure I could muster up the energy and thought involved in coming up with a top 100 list like that tbh, I dunno. And that poll they did must have been such a ball-ache to organise, with all the rounds of nomination etc. The finished thing is quite something to behold though! If someone came up with an interesting enough idea I might be up for it I suppose.

Like you say, Dissensus is a much much smaller and more uk-centric board than ILX, and it does seem to have gone fairly quiet round here over the last year or so I must say...

Corpsey
30-08-2012, 09:04 PM
Mind you, Woebot himself (praise be) did that Top 100 Records of All Time which was and is an absolute goldmine of ace music. So he would approve.

I suppose you might say that cataloguing is something that's 'killed' dissensus, in that rather than in-depth discussion about music most threads are simply huge collections of youtube links. Maybe a big list would only make this problem worse.

Corpsey
30-08-2012, 09:06 PM
Shamefully I hadn't even heard the number 1 choice before!


That is the ultimate dog-going-HMNFF?! track for me. It seems supremely average to me, but I'm probably not listening properly.

The best bits in the thread are reading people's personal anecdotes relating to tunes. Their little stories about how they heard such-and-such a track on the dancefloor and it won them over or bowled them over. Also Tim F writes a load of stuff on it, which is always nice.

Benny B
30-08-2012, 09:34 PM
I suppose you might say that cataloguing is something that's 'killed' dissensus, in that rather than in-depth discussion about music most threads are simply huge collections of youtube links. Maybe a big list would only make this problem worse.

I always feel a bit torn over this issue. In a way cataloging and listing isn't really the root problem as on a lively board it should actually provoke discussion. But like you say, the mechanical youtubing does get a bit dull sometimes. Vast swathes of ILX are also very dull too, there are only about 4 threads I bother looking at over there and they've all got pretty much the same handful of people in them.

There have been one or two good polls on dissensus in the past though, nothing quite as ambitious as that ILX one, jesus...

Benny B
30-08-2012, 09:52 PM
That is the ultimate dog-going-HMNFF?! track for me. It seems supremely average to me, but I'm probably not listening properly.
.

Yeah just listened to this, doesn't do much for me either.

Who do you reckon would win the dissensus version? Burial? Mala?

If it was Hyp Mngo I'd have to leave the board.

rrrivero
30-08-2012, 10:04 PM
There have been one or two good polls on dissensus in the past though, nothing quite as ambitious as that ILX one, jesus...The UK Garage poll was a big reason I started reading Dissensus

Also, I think a grime tune would win, for some reason

edit: So weit wie noch nie? Rej? One more time? I feel like the 16-year-old me buried a part of its soul in the sand and it blossomed into that top 110

Benny B
30-08-2012, 10:41 PM
Also, I think a grime tune would win, for some reason


Yeah, Wiley or Dizzee maybe. Depends on whether you'd count grime as 'dance music' though, quite a thorny issue. I don't think there's any grime in the ILX list so i guess they must have counted it out.

e/y
30-08-2012, 10:56 PM
That is the ultimate dog-going-HMNFF?! track for me. It seems supremely average to me, but I'm probably not listening properly.

I really, really like Lindstrom, and I really, really like that track, but I'm pretty surprised that it was voted no. 1. I wouldn't even say that it's the best Scandinavian/space disco track.

Nice list, though.

Corpsey
30-08-2012, 11:01 PM
I didn't give a single track a fair shake, I was just flicking through them as fast as possible so I could satisfy my completist brain.

My number one (if I could only pick from house/techno) probably would have been 'The Sky Was Pink' RMX, for which I have an unholy love.

rrrivero
30-08-2012, 11:04 PM
I think I'd go for Zomby's Euphoria no matter how unoriginal that would be

Benny B
30-08-2012, 11:14 PM
The runner up choice 'Tessio' by Luomo is a fine thing indeed, new to me also.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeQchIQOL6I&feature=youtu.be

Most of my choices would be garage-related in some way but if i had to go with a 'proper' house tune it would probably be Kentphonic - Hiya Kaya (Rocco Deep remix). Not that I've give it any proper thought yet mind.

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Sectionfive
30-08-2012, 11:17 PM
We should do top fifty nuum of the 00's for added in/out arguments.

Cant believe Doppelwhipper didn't make the ILX list. Didn't make the RA one either. Inexcusable

Slothrop
30-08-2012, 11:30 PM
I keep thinking you could do a more interesting top X list by getting everyone to do a top ten and then doing some clever stats to pick out the stuff that a few people have got at number one and almost no-one else has mentioned at all... some sort of information theoretic definition of cult favorites.

Benny B
30-08-2012, 11:42 PM
We should do top fifty nuum of the 00's for added in/out arguments.


Yeah its certainly the only thing this board could do real justice to. Although even that would probably cause In/out arguments I'd imagine.

Big Nose
31-08-2012, 01:26 AM
Was surprised not to see Midnight Request Line.

Dissensus 00's nuum one is a must.

continuum
31-08-2012, 08:10 AM
Count me in for a Dissensus version

luka
31-08-2012, 09:11 AM
organise it then corspey. youve got 20 minutes.

IdleRich
31-08-2012, 09:57 AM
Some that I would call incredibly bland in there picking up loads of votes. Others would call them deep I suppose. It does depend on context and if you've been dancing to them at the right time on the right drugs with the right people in the right party then it's impossible to separate that from the tune - that's what they're made for after all.

Tentative Andy
31-08-2012, 04:11 PM
This poll was a lot of fun, it gave me the jumping off-point I'd been looking for to properly investigate 00s German/Euro stuff, which had always been a major blindspot for me considering how important it had been to house and techno in that decade.
I found a lot of gems through the nominations list and then the results - also found quite a few that I can understand Corpsey's hmff-dog reaction to (though not I Feel Space, I think that one's ace), there was some stuff that placed quite highly that seemed average to me, but on the other hand the list as a whole gave me a way in to stuff that I might have previously written of as bland.

Tentative Andy
31-08-2012, 04:12 PM
Some early 00s garage anthems did make the placings which was nice but yeah overall it was a very different picture of the decade to the one that you'd get here.

rubberdingyrapids
31-08-2012, 05:18 PM
that list might be good to get some of us out of our 'nuum' obsessions. or me at least.

im personally tired of youtube embeds. its good sometimes as i prob miss a lot of music otherwise but im tired of seeing them. i like to read about music from other people too and i miss reading people post more.

Corpsey
31-08-2012, 10:23 PM
organise it then corspey. youve got 20 minutes.

:eek:

Corpsey
31-08-2012, 10:25 PM
It could potentially be good, though, especially as it would probably result in all manner of arguments and bickering between forum members.

Sectionfive
31-08-2012, 10:39 PM
I think the Linstrom track is an acceptable #1 anyway. Always sounds great and gets the whole place going. I wouldn't begrudge it the top spot. Surprised a few others didn't make it like Erotic Discourse, Geht's Noch?, Make a move, He not in and Doppelwhiper. Odd no Soulwax or Tiefschwarz either given the taste the runs through the list


Ticks plenty of boxes but suffers from that thing that all lists do of more recent memory dominating at the expense of the first half of the decade, year, whatever.
Smoke Machine, pontape, murder was the bass, Blackwater and the Gigolo stuff were all massive all absent for example.

Sectionfive
31-08-2012, 10:48 PM
Has that Blawan track really been around since 2010? Thought the first Hessle release was summer that year

joe.dfx
31-08-2012, 11:19 PM
hessle's been putting out stuff since 07!

http://www.discogs.com/TRG-Put-You-Down/master/97925

stopped reading the list when they put a fischerspooner track miles over j.a.n.

Sectionfive
01-09-2012, 10:29 AM
Blawan's first hessle release.

Benny B
01-09-2012, 11:39 AM
Right, so how would this be done?

UK only nuum tracks of the '00s: covering garage/grime/dubstep/bassline/funky/garage+dubstep related offshoots?

top 100 or top 50 outcome?

Each participant has a limited amount of nominations first? If so, how many in the list?

Sectionfive
01-09-2012, 12:10 PM
Everyone nominate 10 I suppose and then we'll know if we can do 100 or 50 ?

Can't really be UK only artist because of Abstract, Martyn etc, for nominations at least. Though London will dominate in the end

Benny B
01-09-2012, 12:30 PM
Everyone nominate 10 I suppose and then we'll know if we can do 100 or 50 ?


hmmm only being able to nominate 10 might be too hard, my brains hurting just thinking about it. Would 20 work do you think? I'm shit at statistics.

SecondLine
01-09-2012, 12:33 PM
that list makes me feel like such a fraud, don't know any of the tunes and most of them sound really dull to me. tasteful euro house/techno for adults with jobs - probably fantastic if you're an adult with a job

SecondLine
01-09-2012, 12:34 PM
My taste is so conflicted right now. I'm sposed to like house and techno, 90% of uk stuff sounds dull these days. help

SecondLine
01-09-2012, 12:37 PM
is there a Third Way?

Sectionfive
01-09-2012, 12:42 PM
hmmm only being able to nominate 10 might be too hard, my brains hurting just thinking about it. Would 20 work do you think? I'm shit at statistics.

yeah we can do that. 20. I have no idea how it would work either but it might be clearer once we see how many nominations there are.

Corpsey
01-09-2012, 01:43 PM
Also, what are you considering in nominating? Is it just a personal faves thing or are you supposed to think about which tracks were biggest/most influential etc.? I'm assuming this wasn't the case with the ILX one. Also just nominating most influential might be really boring.

Corpsey
01-09-2012, 01:43 PM
My taste is so conflicted right now. I'm sposed to like house and techno, 90% of uk stuff sounds dull these days. help

that's house and techno's fault

Benny B
01-09-2012, 01:48 PM
Also, what are you considering in nominating? Is it just a personal faves thing or are you supposed to think about which tracks were biggest/most influential etc.? I'm assuming this wasn't the case with the ILX one. Also just nominating most influential might be really boring.

surely it should just start with the records that each person considers the best and just see what happens. I'm sure all the canonical ones will turn up naturally

Corpsey
01-09-2012, 01:49 PM
That's true. We love an anthem round ere.

Sectionfive
01-09-2012, 02:49 PM
This is going to tough. Could do a top 50 2002 already :D

owengriffiths
01-09-2012, 04:36 PM
How about listing ten influential tracks and ten personal faves, so be it if there is a bit of crossover between the two lists. I wouldn't worry too much about collating everyone's lists together in a scientific way, these lists are just a means to promote debate rather than embedding youtube videos.

Sectionfive
01-09-2012, 04:56 PM
Tricky enough too as 2000 takes in Battle, Crazy love and all that and their is so much stuff in the garage tail up to 2002 alone.

Benny B
01-09-2012, 05:52 PM
How about listing ten influential tracks and ten personal faves, so be it if there is a bit of crossover between the two lists. I wouldn't worry too much about collating everyone's lists together in a scientific way, these lists are just a means to promote debate rather than embedding youtube videos.

I reckon a poll would be much more interesting and debate provoking than just a bunch of lists though. I was thinking of something like this...

If everyone publicly nominated up to 20 tunes (in no order), even if only 20 people were involved that would potentially be 400 tunes to choose from. Obviously its a waste to nominate something twice but we could see all the previous ones here on the board.

Then, from that list everyone chooses say, their top 30 tracks in order, so that your ballot isn't just a repeat of your own nominations list.

You could then discount all the tracks with only one vote (theres bound to be loads) and err...go from there with whats left :slanted:

After the final results everyone could also post their own ballots too if they wanted which would be interesting to see. I think this is basically how ILX did their poll.

as i said I'm shit at statistics, but I don't think this would be that difficult to organise. Any statisticians on the board?

Sectionfive
01-09-2012, 06:00 PM
2000, lot of these were probably floating around on Dub before hand but roughly.


Triplets
Crazy Love
Battle, What's Going On?
138 Trek
Know We
Oh no, Dilema, No good etc
Hardcore Garage
Gorgon Sound
EL-Brand
You Bring Me Joy
Flowers
Diamond Rings
Shut The Door
Digital
Feelings Inside (EL-Breaks)
Girls Like Us
Pied Piper
Woman Trouble
Boom Selection
Right Before My Eyes
Gabriel (Large Joints Remix)
Biggin Up The Massive
Body Groove
Sing-A-Long
The Club
Neighbourhood

and eh, Richard Blackwood

bruno
01-09-2012, 06:04 PM
hi all. these are my (probably questionable) choices. i decided to forget the limit and describe each thing briefly, here we go:

1999
the actor's pedantry - house
drexciya - andrean sand dunes — (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXkZderp79E)
two on the cusp of the 00s, i had to include them as it would be a shame not to. the first is a very hypnotic house (obviously) workout, the second a particularly affecting electro track.

2000
photek + robert owens - mine to give — (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w25uzdCmFUw)
the best thing he did, and not a bit dated.

2000
daft punk - voyager — (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqZgd6-xQl8)
daft punk - verdis quo — (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhZaHf8RP6g)
memories.

2000
closer musik - one two three (no gravity) — (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIzeGIGkC4k)
lovely floating thing from matνas aguayo & co.

2001
metro area - caught up — (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udLY1Yq4Z_8)
always had a soft spot for the disco/house stuff and this is very good.

2002
theo parrish - delwood II — (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wtr5oy3KuY)
introduced to me via dr. lloyd's excellent mixes (http://dr.lloyd.free.fr/mixes.htm) in 2006.

2001
carsten jost - krokus (superpitcher mix) — (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-gwF2eT91o)
heavy deutsche epic with little birds chirping.

2002
phantom ghost - perfect lovers (unperfect love mix) — (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIV2bFCkUj0)
vocals on this are a bit silly, but the beethoven intro makes up for it.

2002
bitstream - crab nebula — (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwWqDHW8cIk)
very lush emotional electro of sorts, very special.

2003
gladio - slave of rome — (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2GiDUvcs2I)
legowelt - fitzcarraldo — (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YN2b4LcsKuw)
squadra blanco - the night must fall — (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBGFbPbsa5k)
when danny wolfers lost his mind.

2004
mono junk - system night
ridiculous electro nonsense from finland.

2004
omar-s - last track on omar-s 1 — (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAXFcB1KURw)
brilliance.

2003-2006 on vacation

2006
rice twins - for penny and alexis — (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Syb7dHClSEo)
lovely atmospheric track on kompakt.

2006
sally shapiro - i know — (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajPqzZJvrS0)
sally shapiro - hold me so tight — (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxlpXuyBPVc)
both are cheesy but epic, i still love them (albeit with headphones).

2005-06
annie - heartbeat (alan braxe remix) — (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoMK8FrGLGk)
kleerup/robyn - with every heartbeat — (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2LXDQ3yFwU)
more ridiculously lush electronic pop.

2006
the field - kappsta — (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGbLHpmWY04)
we danced to this.

2006/07
the field - the deal — (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5I41qt-O8Rk)
the field - sun and ice — (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhdqW7m4a9g)
great for playing tetris and other repetitive games.

2007-2010 another detour

2010
mala - education — (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkK6z6-P5OQ)
escape from new york meets dmz, mala's best in my opinion.

2009
shackleton - something has got to give — (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwNINxbfV9I)
terrific stuff.

2010
efdemin - there will be singing — (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mEJeARswCg)
chicago reincarnated in deutschland, ich liebe.

eso es todo amigos. a heavy german slant obviously, but this is how i feel right now.

— = youtube link

Benny B
01-09-2012, 06:21 PM
2000, lot of these were probably floating around on Dub before hand but roughly.


Triplets
Crazy Love
Battle, What's Going On?
138 Trek
Know We
Oh no, Dilema, No good etc
Hardcore Garage
Gorgon Sound
EL-Brand
You Bring Me Joy
Flowers
Diamond Rings
Shut The Door
Digital
Feelings Inside (EL-Breaks)
Girls Like Us
Pied Piper
Woman Trouble
Boom Selection
Right Before My Eyes
Gabriel (Large Joints Remix)
Biggin Up The Massive
Body Groove
Sing-A-Long
The Club
Neighbourhood

and eh, Richard Blackwood

Also 2000, all from Locked On records

Suburban Lick - Here comes the lick again
Leee Johns - Your mind, your body, your soul
Lavonz - Mash up da venue
Monsta boy - sorry

Corpsey
01-09-2012, 06:49 PM
So are we doing ''nuum'' tracks or house/techno too cos Bruno just picked a load of the latter stuff (and I'll definitely check out that list)?

Maybe we need to make an OFFICIAL DISSENSUS ARDKORE TOP 100 thread. Preferably with the threat title in ALL CAPS cos we are ARDKORE on this forum and we don't use lower case like wimpy deep house fans do.

bruno
01-09-2012, 06:53 PM
Some that I would call incredibly bland in there picking up loads of votes. Others would call them deep I suppose. It does depend on context and if you've been dancing to them at the right time on the right drugs with the right people in the right party then it's impossible to separate that from the tune - that's what they're made for after all.
in making my own list i found some overlap with the ilx ones in the listening in social contexts department, which is not my strength. for example, the daft punk discovery tracks are dear to me more as backdrops to social stuff and my sister's fixation rather than as music, although i enjoy the retro-futurist angle very much (and the interstella 5555 video is ace). the same thing happened with the 2006 robyn/annie type stuff that would otherwise not be my usual fare. the lesson i suppose is that we need to get out more to understand the more baffling choices.

bruno
01-09-2012, 06:54 PM
Maybe we need to make an OFFICIAL DISSENSUS ARDKORE TOP 100 thread. Preferably with the threat title in ALL CAPS cos we are ARDKORE on this forum and we don't use lower case like wimpy deep house fans do.
EXCELLENT IDEA.

bruno
01-09-2012, 06:57 PM
but really, it wouldn't be a bad idea to have a dedicated thread for such a list. even i could contribute a few choices.

Benny B
01-09-2012, 07:01 PM
So are we doing ''nuum'' tracks or house/techno too cos Bruno just picked a load of the latter stuff (and I'll definitely check out that list)?
.

well would dissensus realistically be able to do justice to a house/techno poll though? I doubt there's enough of a knowledge base here for such a vast subject to make it meaningful.

Also it wouldn't make much sense to have a poll that would put something like Eskimo up against Digital Love for example.

Corpsey
01-09-2012, 07:08 PM
I don't want to see your list go to waste, bruno. But its best if the Dissensus list is different to the ILX one, and plays to our strengths as revilers of deep house.

I demand that Simon Reynolds aka Blissblogger aka the Boss Don of The Ardkore Continuum comes out of retirement for one post listing his favourite nuum tunes of the noughties.

Then later we will further plagiarise ILX by doing a 90's list which will be more ardkore and grimey than theirs, which will no doubt include 'Encore Un Fois' and 'Fairground' by Simply Red.

bruno
01-09-2012, 07:12 PM
benny, i'm not sure i agree. if zhao and other members of the forum are anything to go by we can do both eskimo and digital love, i don't see why not. i excluded grime type stuff from my list because i thought it wouldn't fit, but i can make it fit, i do this with different things every day. these dedicated genre threads may contribute to the impression of narrow taste, but i think we are pretty knowledgeable and much less orthodox than it appears.

Benny B
01-09-2012, 07:14 PM
'Fairground' by Simply Red.

UK Funky avant la lettre

Corpsey
01-09-2012, 07:17 PM
Fun fact: "Fairground" samples Goodmen ''Give It Up'' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mH5Pq5L3bs) a samba-house banger from 1993.

It was also Number 1 in the charts for FOUR WEEKS :confused:

I know the above because me and some friends recently watched about 20 youtube compilation videos of every number 1 track between 1990 and 2010. It was enjoyable.

Benny B
01-09-2012, 07:17 PM
benny, i'm not sure i agree. if zhao and other members of the forum are anything to go by we can do both eskimo and digital love, i don't see why not. i excluded grime type stuff from my list because i thought it wouldn't fit, but i can make it fit, i do this with different things every day. these dedicated genre threads may contribute to the impression of narrow taste, but i think we are pretty knowledgeable and much less orthodox than it appears.

I hear you Bruno but I just think if the subject was too big you'd just end up with shitloads of nominations with only one vote, which wouldn't really tell us much and wouldn't be quite as interesting as something more focussed (though obviously the nuum is a massive subject in itself).

bruno
01-09-2012, 07:19 PM
plays to our strengths as revilers of deep house.
not to worry, i only made the list to jog my memory, i doubt anyone will read it anyway. in any case i'm not against a uk/nuum centric list, go for it.

bruno
01-09-2012, 07:21 PM
I hear you Bruno but I just think if the subject was too big you'd just end up with shitloads of nominations with only one vote, which wouldn't really tell us much and wouldn't be quite as interesting as something more focussed (though obviously the nuum is a massive subject in itself).
good point.

rubberdingyrapids
02-09-2012, 03:07 PM
if youre all doing a nuum type thread you need to leave one spot in the chart free for that tune which you loved that was on one pirate tape you had but you never found out what it was and to this day still have no clue but it might be the best grime/dubstep/ukg/ukf track ever made.

edit - also can it be called the rave chart or whatever, not nuum. thanks.

Sectionfive
02-09-2012, 03:15 PM
lol, too true

baboon2004
02-09-2012, 03:41 PM
Their number two would be my number one (Luomo's Tessio), and number three would be very high on my list too...but I guess that goes back to all the microhouse I listened to in the early 00s, no doubt influenced quite a lot by ILX. MFA Difference It Makes remix is also amazing, and Superpitcher must be in there a couple of times too.

muser
02-09-2012, 04:52 PM
I don't really like that list at all to be honest all sounds pretty dull to me. really dont understand how some of those got unanimously picked out, for example the remix of a particularly average omar-s tune.. theres so many to choose from why that? Seems like they have bought into their own collective hype without realizing and made a list out of it.

e/y
02-09-2012, 06:19 PM
the remix of a particularly average omar-s tune...

Which one? There are two Omar-S tracks on the list (Photosynthesis & Here's Your Trance), but I don't see a remix...

edit: ah ok, they linked to the wrong youtube clip, the entry was the original and not the remix.

Tentative Andy
02-09-2012, 07:23 PM
Tessio by Luomo reminds me a little of the old 2-step remixes of Get Down and Telefunkin'.

Numbers
03-09-2012, 09:17 AM
Dissensus can easily beat that tepid list. Bring on the ardkore list.

rubberdingyrapids
03-09-2012, 09:49 AM
im worried mine wont have enough obscurities.

fuck it. im happy to include caspa.

droid
03-09-2012, 10:00 AM
Is it my imagination or is nearly everything on the ILX list dull variations on house that could have been made almost anytime in the last 20 years?

baboon2004
03-09-2012, 10:11 AM
looking through it, i think the answer to that depends on whether or not you like microhouse and french house. the uk doesn't get much of a look-in, basically. Crazy Cousinz is the only funky tune I can see, and I think dubstep is entirely absent unless you count james blake.

rrrivero
03-09-2012, 12:06 PM
im worried mine wont have enough obscurities.

fuck it. im happy to include caspa.hear hear

rubberdingyrapids
03-09-2012, 12:09 PM
obv dance wiv me will be number one.

bruno
03-09-2012, 02:55 PM
lots of 'dissensus can make a better list' bravado here but no actual lists, let's see the fucking lists.

baboon2004
03-09-2012, 03:20 PM
how many records? 20? this is impossible when you remember about kwaito as well.

rubberdingyrapids
03-09-2012, 03:47 PM
i did a grime-dubstep-funky list but it was at least 40 entries long and i didnt even include any garage.

Sectionfive
03-09-2012, 04:39 PM
Is there anyway we could put together some sort of loosely definitive grime list, garage list, funky and so on. Then vote on them to prune.


Could be like group stages or something, I donno

Benny B
03-09-2012, 06:00 PM
Is there anyway we could put together some sort of loosely definitive grime list, garage list, funky and so on. Then vote on them to prune.


Could be like group stages or something, I donno

There'd probably have to some limit on the amount of nominations each person can make though or the list could get proper out of control.

Also I think peoples final ballot should be a list thats longer than their noms list, so that people are also choosing from other peoples' nominations too.

I reckon for the poll itself something like I described a few pages back could work, what do other people think?

Of course theres nothing to stop us having a free-for-all-thread first where everyone posts their long lists (split into genre) as a reference before doing the proper nominations list.

Does that make sense?

Benny B
03-09-2012, 08:02 PM
Should probably start another thread but here is my preliminary long-list, no doubt with plenty of howling omissions. Didn't really know where to start with grime so thats just a few faves off the top of my head. I'm not doing any dubstep I've decided.

GARAGE

Genius cru - Boom Selection , Course Bruv
Pay as u go - Know We
Zed Bias - Jigga Up (Ring The Alarm) Neighbourhood
DnD - Diamond rings
Cleptomaniacs - All I Do (Bump & Flex Dancehall Dub)
Horsepower Productions - Gorgon Sound
Leee Johns - Your mind, your body, your soul
AKA warning - sunship remix
Got myself together - dnd
es dubs - urban myth
mj cole - crazy love
Gabriel (Large Joints Remix)
Architechs - Body Groove
El-B - Digital, Moving Up
monsta boy - sorry
suburban lick - Here comes the lick
Valerie M - Tingles 2000 (Artful Dodger Remix)
Roy Davis Jr - Gabrielle (Large Joints Remix)
Sweet Female Attitude - Flowers
The Artful Dodger – Movin Too Fast
Corrupted Cru - ‘G.A.R.A.G.E.’ ,
Menta ‘Sounds of da Future’
Jammin’- ‘Go DJ’
So solid- oh no, 21 seconds, They don't know
pay as you go - know we
dj faz - Believe
beatfreakz - Twelves
stush - dollar sign
Zoom and DBX - ‘Comin Again'
Ms Dynamite - Booo
Sovereign - Mya /Case of the ex remix
Agent x - Decoy
Dubaholics- Saturday (Dubaholics Smasher Remix)/Beautiful (Dubaholics Full Vocal Remix)
Frances James + DJ Face: Girls Play Too (Baffled remix)
Stone Kold Joints: Wicked Press
James Lavonz Feat. She & Mr D: Mash Up Da Venue (Mash Up Dub).
Wideboys - Black Coffee (The Wideboys Espresso Mix) / Sing-A-Long (Wideboys dub Remix)/ Felon Get Out (Wideboys Felon Your Feet Mix)
DJ Narrows - If they knew..., Dreams, Saved Soul, Overture
Sunship - Flowers remix
Wookie - Battle, What's Going On? , Storm, Scrappy, Little man remix
Jameson - True
Bad Boy (AKA Artwork?) - Bad Boy
Sticky - Triplets

FUNKY


Lil Silva - Seasons, Pulse Vs flex, Different, Nightskanker, Against Yaself
Ill Blu - Green Light, 321 - Bring it back remix, Meltdown, Time to get nasty, Frontline
Hardhouse Banton - Sirens, Reign
Devine - House girls, People keep dancing, Gotta Have it
Funkystepz - For u, Funky sound, whispers
Crazy Cousinz - Inflation, Bongo Jam, Do you mind, Always be my my baby
Major Notes - friend of mine
Roska - I need Love, Climate change EP
Naughty - Quicktime, Sea sick, follow me remix, domino effect remix, The Music
Fives - It's what you do
Wookie - Falling
Perempay & Dee - In the Air, Buss it, Be your girl remix
Sticky - Jumeirah riddim, How very dare you
Undisputed - Sunglasses
Champion - Motherboard, Bad Girl remix, Shadows of love remix
Apple - De siegelizer, Mr Bean
Funky Twinz - Smile
Geeneus - Yellowtail, As I,
Royal P - Between Us
Ossie - Set the tone, Tarantula
NB Funky - Riddim Box
Seany B - Make your move, Stomper
Chuck Dem Gee - Round and round
El-B - I feel
I got U - Delio D'Cruz Supa funky mix
I want it all - Ed case funky mix
Nobody - DJ Oji sanctuary vocal
Shea Soul - Playin tricks
Fuzzy Logik - What goes around, Leader, Lush remix, The way you move, in the Morning
Xara/S.chu - You got me
Funk Butcher - Pull me close
Invasion (OB and Fingaprint) - Takeover, Just leave, Everybody remix
Dubplate Wonder - My Love
Swindle - No more
D-Malice - Gabryelle rexix
Rudimental - Sexy sexy, Want you back
Donaeo - African Warrior, i'm fly, party hard
Migraine skank

GRIME

Musical mob - Pulse X
bigshot - glitch
danny weed - Creeper, Salt Beef
More Fire Crew - oi
black ops - War
Geeneus/Wizzbit - Jam hot
alias - warrior
ruff squad - Anna, RUFF,
XTC - Havana (or whatever its called)
rebound x
Trim - Boogeyman, signal, get with it
Riko - Chosen One
Terror danjah et al - Cock back, Trim - Boogeyman, Zumpi Hunter, Code Morse (with D.O.K.)
Dizzee - I luv U, Stop Dat, Ho, Vexed, etc...
Wiley - eskimo, ice rink, Crash Bandicoot freestyle etc etc etc etc etc etc...
Roll Deep - Bounce etc...
Hindzy D - Submarine
Jameson - Switch

Corpsey
03-09-2012, 08:13 PM
Started trying to compile my own longlist the other day, didn't get very far and started realising early how meagre my knowledge of grime/funky in particular is. Oh and Bassline house, natch.

GRIME

Wiley – Wot U Call It? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mH5Pq5L3bs
Dizzee Rascal – I Luv U http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YH0KWX2a8zY
More Fire Crew – Oi! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hP-QNCnDwB8
Roll Deep – Heat Up http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEIQ-Y0bkSE
Crazy Titch – Gunshot Riddim http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUL_OBdyUcM
Ruff Sqwuad – Xtra http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qp3ghZAiBiY
Newham Generals – Frontline http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhRHk8pS4sc
Jon E Cash – War http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLo64vsiboA
Wiley – Ice Rink http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTH0-C8utrw
Wiley – Pulse Eskimo (?) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAbkBLKisIg
Musical Mobb – Pulse X http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bMQTU2iI1E
DJ Oddz – Strung Up VIP http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BF_NCfYdxtc
Danny Weed – Creeper http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ok4UHXhA9Gc
SX – Woo Riddim http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3IwDrrkEM8
Joker – Stuck In The System http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bh_1NWbeA7Y

BASSLINE HOUSE
T2 – Heartbroken http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTVeuMJd83o

GARAGE

Azzidio the Bass – Dooms Night (Timo Maas RMX) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1m7mkBLZ7k
Wookie – Down On Me http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1L0pKPeejw
Artful Dodger – Movin' Too Fast http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kw-Fl_xGpyY
Horsepower – Gorgon Sound http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsOVED4u8aI
El-B – Digital http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgdNc6V0jxc
El-B – Buck And Bury http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZiAL0w1R5g
DJ Abstract – Touch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aipjcaDf2Z4

FUNKY
Hard House Banton – Reign http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJSk6K-Na5k
Hard House Banton – Sirens http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pmoan734E9w
Crazy Cousinz – Inflation http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XW0Zgy9InY
Crazy Cousinz – Do You Mind http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YHC69wa9JA
Apple – Desiegalizer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJ-C-ID61EA
Teedra Moses – Be Your Girl (Perempay And Dee RMX) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zE1oxdMjbGQ
Fuzzy Logic – In The Morning http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAukDla8Vbg

DUBSTEP
Skream – Midnight Request Line http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6pTSGvp7T8
Digital Mystikz – Haunted http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhfzFNu9I34
Skream – I (Loefah RMX) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xbx1bVOz_SE
Loefah – Mud http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxuwmQ_Q91Q
Kromestar – Kalawanji http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzizFHolOOQ
Plastician – Japan http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZjbCkRJq44
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kAXQ_8snu4 (SKEPTA vocal)
Newham Generals – Hard http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQuLS_plFQ4
Wonder – What (Geeneus RMX) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSLTE17byA4
Wonder – What http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAPnIdiRKQQ
D1 – Crack Bong (Loefah RMX) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kR4LFg90eHQ
D1 – I Believe http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRbF8KDdc4E
Mala – Bury The Bwoy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ia2AZAOQ2M8
Mala – Lean FWD http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95VhNNA18Eg
Joker – Hollybrook Park http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcy9gwT8mjI
Peverelist – Roll With The Punches http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOn0dWrnA-Y
Benga – Flame http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8T8jeLM4vQ
Pinch – Qawaali http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWPE_XvzrTs
Digital Mystikz – Anti War Dub http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pBCA9mUciU
Toasty – Angel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ml11HngVdXM
Toasty – Knowledge http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pO4NUI1ib6Q
Zomby – Tarantula http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cFGGyr0ZJ8

Benny B
03-09-2012, 08:55 PM
Wookie – Down On Me http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1L0pKPeejw
-

I wanted this too but its from 99 unfortunately. Its the best thing wookie ever did, no doubt.

Sectionfive
03-09-2012, 09:21 PM
and this, 2004


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRTa3WYV27w

rubberdingyrapids
03-09-2012, 10:19 PM
heres mine off the top of my head (more favourites than objective 'bests' though - my dubstep list is prob the weirdest - and ive tried to keep it to one track per artist) -

Grime
Ruff sqwad vs roll deep – all day long
Dizzee rascal feat d double e– give u more
musical mob vs dizzee rascal - i luv pulse x
Terror danjah – radar
Dexplicit – ave some of dat
Wiley – blizzard
Mark one – plodder
Plasticman – rude boy
Dexplicit – firebell
Geeneus – old school
Tubby – steppa
Waifa – gunman skank (i think its this one - tubby used to play it a lot though i might have the name wrong)
Skepta – private caller
So solid crew – whoa
Footsie – scars 2
Scratchy – trim and scratch instrumental
Tempa t – boy off da ting
Kano – boys love girls
Dj spooky – Spartan
Various – stage show riddim

Dubstep/post dubstep

Jakes – boom boom bass
Caspa – terminator
Digital mystikz – intergalactic
Skream ft warrior queen – check it
Coki – tortured
loefah - disko rekah
parson - throw some ds
artwork - red
Joker – purple city
Pinch – qawaali
Matty g – 50,000 watts
movado - gangsta for life (coki remix)/richie spice - burning (coki remix)
Appleblim – girder
Benga – Baltimore clap
D1 – ongie bongie
James blake – air and lack thereof
2562 – enforcers
King midas sound – meltdown
Darkstar – need you
Dismantle – computation

Funky
Geeneus and ms dynamite – get low
El-b – I feel
Roska – I need love/sqwark
Apple – siegelizer
Princess nyah – frontline
Fuzzy logik – leader/in the morning
Kyla – do you mind
Crazy cousins – sonar
Mad one – house girls
Champion – motherboard
KIG – head, shoulders, knees, toes
MJ Cole – volcano riddim
Sticky – jumeirah riddim
Altered natives – rass out
Lil silva – no hooks
Ill blu – blue magic
Funkystepz – fuller
NB funky – take it back to the 80s (with the vocal samples)/riddim box
Donaeo – party hard
Scratcha DVA - Polyphonic Dreams

Sectionfive
03-09-2012, 10:42 PM
Jason K - Soundbwoy
Wookie - Hype up
Sticky - Triplets
Roxy - Morse Code
Wookie - Battle
Exemen - duppy
Stush - Dollar sign
EL-B - Feelings Inside
Menta - Ramp


Untold - Test Signal
Horsepower - Classic Delux
D1 – Crack Bong
Benga - Amber
Kode9 - Sin of the dub
The Bug - Skeng
Menta - Sounds of the future
Mala - left leg out
Ramadanman - Blimey
Toasty - Knowlage
Scuba - Resperator
Kode9 - magnetic city
Kode9 - 9 samurai
Pangaea - Coiled
Blackdown ‎– Lata
Untold - Anaconda
Loefah - Jah War rmx
DJ Abstract – Touch
Mark One - Raindance
Darqwan - Gud money
Benny Ill & DJ Hatcha – Crazy Intro
Loefah - Horror Show
Horsepower - Smokin
Coki - Earth a run red
Pinch - Qawwali
Peverelist - The Grind
High Plains Drifter – Sholay
Tubby - Steppa

FairiesWearBoots
04-09-2012, 02:52 AM
get a mix on the go Benny! would love to hear a classic garage/grime/funky mix

owengriffiths
04-09-2012, 08:11 PM
Does it matter how big the list is, not everyone's is the same number and I think I'll struggle to come up with more than 30 across all genres?

Otherwise I can have a list done by tomorrow.

baboon2004
04-09-2012, 08:19 PM
everyone's posted just 'nuum-type stuff - is house and techno allowed more broadly?

owengriffiths
04-09-2012, 08:30 PM
I think it's only nuum type stuff. If you open the door to house & techno then the whole thing would just get unmanageable. Lets just leave it at Garage, Grime, Dubstep, Funky, and maybe D&B & Broken Beat if people consider them London centric enough.

I don't know how everyone else feels about this but I get the feeling that if I was to do list of my top tunes of the 90's the list would be at least triple the size.

baboon2004
04-09-2012, 08:32 PM
ah ok, will get gathering my list. I'm kinda in defence of the ILX list though - I thought it was very good (predictable, true, but so probably will be the Dissensus list in large part, which is no bad thing...some tunes just are fantastic), just coming from a completely opposite direction. Funky and French house are both brilliant at their peak.

atoga
04-09-2012, 08:40 PM
all grime & funky edition

GRIME
Wiley – Ground Zero
Ivan O – Come Again
Dexplicit – Victory (D.O.K Remix VIP)
Dizzee Rascal – Hoe
Waifer – Grime Riddim
Davinche – Eyes On You
Terror Danjah – Creepy Crawler
Rapid – Night Rider
XTC – Havana
Skepta – Autopsy
Geeneus – Thunder (Marsta Remix)
Eastwood & Oddz – Champion VIP
Silencer – World War 4
Footsie – Scars 2
Young Dot – Bazooka
Lewi White – Gunshots Blow
Spyro – Shadow Boxing
Shotz – Thundercatz
Target – Earth Warrior
Low Deep – Str8 Flush
Flirta D – Warp Speed
DEE – Birds In The Sky
Roachee – All Day Long

FUNKY
Scotty D & Slim Ting – Liberty
Perempay & Dee – Buss It
Roska – Pyramids
Apple – Segalizer
Hard House Banton – Reign
Tadow – Hornz
Mario – Bloodclart Bass
Lil Silva – Different
Crazy Cousinz – Inflation
Donae'o – African Warrior
Benga & Coki – Night
D1 – Ongie Bongie

Sectionfive
04-09-2012, 08:54 PM
Spooky - JoyRide

Mad One - House Girls

Corpsey
04-09-2012, 08:55 PM
all grime & funky edition

Perempay & Dee – Buss It


Oh fuck I forgot about this tune! Funky was so good back then, wasn't it?

Benny B
04-09-2012, 09:01 PM
Does it matter how big the list is, not everyone's is the same number and I think I'll struggle to come up with more than 30 across all genres?

Otherwise I can have a list done by tomorrow.

I reckon just post your big unordered list for now if you like as a reference. Later we could start a thread where you have to nominate say 20 tunes that we can then all vote on in the final poll.

Does that sound sensible?

baboon2004
04-09-2012, 09:32 PM
D Malice - My Joy refix HAS to go on the funky list

rubberdingyrapids
04-09-2012, 09:36 PM
i totally forgot buss it too. one of the classic early funky anthems.

i wouldnt mind seeing baboons lists for diff genres. in fact i think id like to see lists for diff non nuum genres like french house, mnml, etc, actually, just cos theres loads of stuff i probably only paid marginal attention to BECAUSE of the nuum stuff.

baboon2004
04-09-2012, 09:44 PM
buss it up with kano and vybz kartel was pretty good too.

Will try to get on those lists tomorrow. I'd personally love to see anyone's list of early funky influences, all those tunes from Dennis Ferrer, Quentin Harris, MAW etc etc that Marcus Nasty used to play in 2008-9. A decade's worth of sometimes mindblowing house that I'd totally missed out on, and couldn't identify 90% of it when I heard it out

Benny B
04-09-2012, 09:47 PM
D Malice - My Joy refix HAS to go on the funky list

shit i had this in my long list but got D-Malice mixed up with Dubplate wonder. Great tune but I reckon the D-Malice refix of 'Gabryelle' is THE BOMB. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4X9KIrPAuvw

baboon2004
04-09-2012, 09:50 PM
great tune too, no doubt. but I have a pirate rip of 'My Joy' (probably off someone on Dissensus, tbh) with Marcus Nasty going "hold tight the Queen! She's locked" and other such gems, that's one of my favourite musical artefacts ever

rubberdingyrapids
04-09-2012, 09:52 PM
im trying to think of a best grime mix cds (not albums) list. it would go something like -

wiley - best of tunnel vision
ruff sqwad - guns n roses 1 & 2
newham generals - best of
kronik - embarassingly i cant remember the title but i remember playing it a lot
trim - soulfood vol 1
va - rinsessions (this is in fact the best grime cd ever)
va - lord of the mics 1 to 3
jammer - are you dumb vol 1
ghetto - freedom of speech
tempa t - 2000 and pax/u dun know the dun know (honorary imaginary entry)

best grime instrumental cds -
terror danjah - zipfiles

baboon2004
04-09-2012, 09:56 PM
Aim High!

Benny B
04-09-2012, 09:57 PM
XXP: Cue Shantie - "Who's gonna be my dancing queen? Altogether now left to the right..."

Aaah those were the days...

Ory
04-09-2012, 10:16 PM
i've been keeping this list of funky vinyl over the years. lots of nom-worthy stuff here i think

http://www.discogs.com/lists/Essential-UK-Funky/7984

it's hard to even remember the later stuff that never came out on wax tbh. no physical evidence...

owengriffiths
06-09-2012, 06:47 PM
Garage

DJ Luck & MC Neat- A little bit of luck (1999 originally, 2000 for the CD re-release)
Sweet Female Attitude- Flowers (2000)
Phoenix- If I feel better (Todd Edwards Mix) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tH5Riu36hcw
Drama- Dont Give Up http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8RkQG7_0EY
Ettiene De Crecy- Scratched (DJ Hype mix)
Dixie Peach- Gwarn (Mr Bumpy Mix)
DJ Narrows- Saved Soul/ and the backwards remix
Sticky ft Miss Dynamite- Boo

Broken Beat

4 Hero- Hold it Down

D&B


J Majik ft Kathy Brown- Love is Not a Game (2000)
Delta & Force- Give You all the love (2002) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyLJCceORGc

Grime

Hindzy D- Shrapnel
Dizzee- I luv U
Dizzee- Do It
Wiley- Eskimo
Wiley- Ground Zero
Ends Production- Are You Really From the Ends/ and the various instrumental mixes
Wonder- What
Wiley & Riko- Pow Back http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLedM7HDK40
Jon E Cash- Kettle
The Black Operations instrumental with the handclaps in it
DJ Mondie- Straight (all the vocals)
Skepta- Duppy
Waifa- Fire http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHHGJ8k1IVg

Dubstep

Artwork- Rank
Coki- Lost City
Coki- Haunted
Mala- Neverland
Loefah- Mud
Loefah & Skream- Fearless
Tubby- Steppa
Slaughter Mob- Thriller Funk
Skream- Midnight Request Line
Benga & Coki- Night

Benny B
06-09-2012, 07:05 PM
Garage

Ettiene De Crecy- Scratched (DJ Hype mix)




wow, had no idea Hype was making tracks like this, thanks for pointing this one out!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37NVo29hsD0

also Mondie's 'Straight' - Yes!. Sounds like next to nothing on its own but becomes the most brutal thing ever with MCs. Someones recently upped loads of the vocals on this riddim to youtube it seems.

owengriffiths
06-09-2012, 07:53 PM
I think Hype was getting overshadowed by Zinc back then, for every one Garage production he made Zinc was putting out six. But when you look back on it you can see that for Hype the levels were much much higher. Scratched is a weird one as the original track is appalling. It (the remix) is one of a small number of sing a long tunes from the dark garage/ dubstep stable.

It's hard to pick Grime tunes, ideally the genre should be judged on ten minute radio clips rather than instrumentals. But something like 'Pow Back' is good, Riko puts in the best performance of his career- if that was live then the flow would be destroyed by half a dozen misguided reloads. But that's one of Grime's problems really.

Benny B
06-09-2012, 08:14 PM
It's hard to pick Grime tunes, ideally the genre should be judged on ten minute radio clips rather than instrumentals.

I know, I've been thinking about how this would work in a poll. For example, my favourite grime tune ever is Riko over Ice Rink (with Kano and Dizzy's versions not too far behind), but I guess in a poll we'd have to count the instro and all the vocals on it as one - but as you say radio clips are where this stuff comes alive and they could be any number of combinations of riddims and MCs. Like, a vote for Wiley's eskimo is really like voting for every one of your favourite MCs who ever rode it!

Benny B
06-09-2012, 08:19 PM
I think Hype was getting overshadowed by Zinc back then, for every one Garage production he made Zinc was putting out six. But when you look back on it you can see that for Hype the levels were much much higher. Scratched is a weird one as the original track is appalling. It (the remix) is one of a small number of sing a long tunes from the dark garage/ dubstep stable.


Yes I think I like that Hype tune better than anything Zinc's done. 138 trek is good but overrated - only really works for me with MCs. Most of the Bingo Beats stuff I've heard is boring as fuck.

while we're talking breakbeat garage, I think Blowfelt's 'lickle roller' is my top pick
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdBZ7moUQ3w&feature=relmfu

Sectionfive
06-09-2012, 10:09 PM
Distance - Nomad
BigShot - Glitch
Oddz -Toothache
Bigga G - Mind Body Soul

IdleRich
07-09-2012, 12:28 AM
Just to totally derail what you're all talking about now but... I Feel Space is such a brilliant name for a tune, I just wish that I could remember the actual tune after i listened to it. I must have heard it a million times but couldn't pick it out of a line-up tomorrow. Now wonder he moved on to stuff like this


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzqiCNSRcD0

rubberdingyrapids
07-09-2012, 10:10 AM
funny how everyones putting tubby and plasticman under dubstep.

Sectionfive
07-09-2012, 03:49 PM
Croydon factor might edge it for plasticman I suppose. That tubby tune has the weight

Big Nose
07-09-2012, 11:44 PM
Funky
Cooly G - Narst
Kode 9 - Black Sun
T Williams - Anthem
T Williams - Hard Cash
Lil Silva - Different
Altered Natives - Rass Out
Scratcha - Jelly Roll
DVA - Natty
Champion - Motherboard
Apple - Mr Bean
Roska - Pyramids
Ill Blu - Time To Get Nasty
Emvee - Glitch Dub
D Malice - Gabryelle Remix
Hard House Banton - Siren
Scotty D vs Slim Ting - Liberty
Bok Bok & L-Vis - I Want You
Jan Driver - Rat Alert
R1 Ryders - Ricochet
Doc Daneeka - Hold On
NB Funky - Riddim Box

Dubstep
Mala - Blue Notez
Untold - Anaconda
Dizzee Rascal - Graftin
Loefah - Jungle Infiltrator
Loefah - I Remix
Digital Mystikz - Conference
Quest - Stand
Silkie - Test
D1 - Crack Bong
Skream - Afeks
Benga - Walkin Bass
Kode9 - Kingstown
Horsepower - Voodoo Spell
Geoim - Reminissin'


Other
Instramental - No Future

continuum
08-09-2012, 06:30 PM
BASSLINE HOUSE
T2 – Heartbroken http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTVeuMJd83o


lol

I'll put together a top 20 Bassline tracks

Tentative Andy
09-09-2012, 10:14 PM
Ok I tried putting together a list of nominations/potential nominations that hadn't been mentioned in any of the other lists so far (apologies if I still ended up duplicating anything):


UK FUNKY
Attaca Pesante – Make It Funky For Me
Fuzzy Logic - Twiss
Emvee – Windrush
Sony – Sugar Rush
Rudimental ft MC Shantie – Deep In The Valley
DJ NG ft Katie B – Tell Me
DJ MA1 – Give It Up
Ill Blu – Blu Magic
GuGu – AC Riddim
Sunday Roast – Occuring, La Kettle
Jook 10 – Bounce, Hazard
Live – Lion’s Den
SMI – 60 Hertz
Champion ft Ruby Lee Ryder – Sensitivity
Riko – Ice Rink (Grievous Angel remix)
Grievous Angel – Move Down Low VIP
DJ Mystery ft Natalie K – Speechless
Black Biscuit – Skanking The Hardest
Cooly G – Love Dub, Up In My Head
Matt IQ – Shake
Royal P – Like That
Andy J & ST – Crunk/Crunk VIP
Smoove Kriminal – Stop That
Ossie – Ossie Baba
Pearson Sound – Wad
Funkystepz – Warrior, Shocker, Royal Rumble, Class A
Estho – Bitch (Funkystepz remix)
T Williams – Heartbeat (Mosca remix & Paul Woolford remix)
CRST – Good Love (Doc Daneeka remix)
Major Notes – Hell No
Major Notes ft Dappa – March To The Tribal
Lil Silva – Golds To Get
Mad One/Devine Recordings – House Girls pt 6
DJ G Smalls – Monster Jam pt 3
Aramac – Hurt Inside
Swindle ft Shea Soul – Freeze
Screama & Farah – Kiss Me There, I Can’t Lose
Miss Fire – Lost In Your House, Take Off Your Clothes
Fis-T – Night Hunter
Mercurial Myrmidon – Hey Bongo remix
Undisputed – Terror VIP
D Double E – Reign freestyle [don’t think this was released but too good not to pick]
J Bevin – Zulu
Hard House Banton – Colonel
Greenmoney ft Mz Bratt – Who’s Greenmoney?
Naughty Raver – Tease Me (After Dark remix), Drama
Redlight ft Roses Gabor – Stupid
Redlight – Planet X
LR Groove – The Key, The Groove

STUFF THAT ISN’T UK FUNKY
Horsepower Productions – Pimp Flavours, Fat Larry’s Skank
K2 Family – Bouncing Flow
Sticky - Golly Gosh
TNT vs Dynamite MC – Rush The DJ
Bogeyman - Smelly
Jameson – This One
Benga – Skank
Youngstar – Bongo Madness
Jammer, Wiley, Kano etc – Destruction VIP
Wiley – Pum Pum Riddim (Durty Goodz vocal)
Crazy Titch – Singalong
Tinchy Stryder – Underground
Ruff Sqwad – Ruff Sqwad Mandem
Skepta – Stageshow Riddim
Rebound X – Rhythm & Gash
Kano – What Have You Done?
Chronik – Way Down The Road
Lady Sov – Cha Ching
Dexplicit – Bullacake
The Endz – Are You Really From The Endz?
Young Dot – Ergh Yeah
Frisco – Skengman Mode
Lumidee – Never Leave You (Target remix)
Macabre Unit - Lift Off
Plasticman – Shockwave, White Gloves
Fat Freddy’s Drop – Cays Crays (Digital Mystikz remix)
Loefah – Root, Midnight
Coki – Mood Dub, Robotnik
Burial – Southern Comfort, Pirates, Unite
Mala – Forgive
Vex’d – Pop Pop VIP
Jakes – 3Kout
Martyn – Vancouver
TRG – Broken Heart (Martyn remix)
D1 - BG
Peverelist – Dance Til The Police Come
Joe – Rut, Claptrap
Pangea – Memories
Breach – Fatherless
Girl Unit – IRL
Kingdom – Pathfinder
Jam City - Arpjam
Zomby – Strange Fruit
Joker & Ginz – Purple City
Rustie & Joker – Play Doe
Rustie – Zig Zag, Bad Science
Guido – Orchestral Lab
Starkey ft Dirty Goodz – Gutter Music
Swindle – Airmiles
Trim – The Way I Am

The second list might have a few bits that are arguably not 'nuumy enough, but nothing too controversial I reckon.

Tentative Andy
09-09-2012, 10:16 PM
I'm also already sure that I've forgotten a bunch of stuff, particularly in terms of mid-2000s grime anthems.

Benny B
09-09-2012, 11:36 PM
Wicked list andy, loads of stuff I'd forgotten in there. I think we've definitely got funky covered at least now between yours, mine and Big Nose's lists. Garage too. Grime is the tricky one...

Do you reckon we should go ahead and try for a proper poll? Are enough people up for it? If so I don't mind organising it if we can all agree on a system first.

Ory
10-09-2012, 09:03 AM
some funky i think hasn't been mentioned

scottie b ft. jay elle - feel nice, feel right
natalie may - clothes off
dotstar - stick up
sneakbo - the wave
mad one / devine collective - house girls part 7 (no war inside)
r1 ryders - karni4
mr mageeka - different lekstrix
roska - without it

Big Nose
10-09-2012, 11:55 AM
Theres a fair few tracks in your list Andy that came out after 2010 or never came out at all. Do we even count 2010 actually. Strictly 2010 is the start of the next decade right?

Smoove Kriminal - Stop That
Champion ft Ruby Lee Ryder – Sensitivity
Jook 10 – Bounce, Hazard
Rudimental ft MC Shantie – Deep In The Valley
Emvee – Windrush
Matt IQ – Shake
Ossie – Ossie Baba
Loefah - Midnight
Peverelist – Dance Til The Police Come
Jam City - Arpjam
Trim – The Way I Am

Benny B
10-09-2012, 11:57 AM
2010 should be fine, we're talking noughties right?

edit: duh, i see what you mean, 2000 to 2010 inclusive is 11 years innit?

Tentative Andy
10-09-2012, 12:25 PM
:o Oops, must have been assuming that we were just going up to the present day (think the ILX list did it this way but could be talking rubbish).

Edit: yeah they did because they had Todd Terje - Snooze For Love from last year and Inspector Norse from the same guy which came out at the start of this year. 'The long noughties' if you will. Obviously we don't have to do it this way though.

Ory
10-09-2012, 01:42 PM
ah yeah, just realised most of mine are 2010 too :confused:

like different lekstrix is really an early funky staple (2008) but came out officially 2 years later

continuum
16-09-2012, 02:06 PM
I'll put together a top 20 Bassline tracks

Put together very quickly:

T2 – Heartbroken
DJ Q feat. MC Bonez – You Wot
DJ Pantha – Candy Shop
TRC feat. Tonia Kodh – Smile
Benga & Coki – Night
T2 – Why
JTJ Productions – Stand Up
Bass Boy feat. K Dot – Get Milli Get Mad
Burgaboy feat. Addictive – Right There
Cheeksta – Baby (TS7 Remix)
Murkz & Dre – Manny Man
Mr V – Hypnotiq
Bassboy feat. Trill – Etap Riddim
Screama – Gangsta
JTJ feat Sacha – No Means No
Mr Figz – Rain
TS7 feat. Addictive – Candy Rain
DJ Q – Fear
Andy M feat. Amnesia – Pum Pum Huge
DS1 feat. Tez Kidd – Get Twist
Nastee Boi feat. Trilla – G Star
Bass Boy feat Slick Don & SG – Ohhhhh Yessssss

Benny B
16-09-2012, 02:46 PM
Put together very quickly:

T2 – Heartbroken
DJ Q feat. MC Bonez – You Wot
DJ Pantha – Candy Shop
TRC feat. Tonia Kodh – Smile
Benga & Coki – Night
T2 – Why
JTJ Productions – Stand Up
Bass Boy feat. K Dot – Get Milli Get Mad
Burgaboy feat. Addictive – Right There
Cheeksta – Baby (TS7 Remix)
Murkz & Dre – Manny Man
Mr V – Hypnotiq
Bassboy feat. Trill – Etap Riddim
Screama – Gangsta
JTJ feat Sacha – No Means No
Mr Figz – Rain
TS7 feat. Addictive – Candy Rain
DJ Q – Fear
Andy M feat. Amnesia – Pum Pum Huge
DS1 feat. Tez Kidd – Get Twist
Nastee Boi feat. Trilla – G Star
Bass Boy feat Slick Don & SG – Ohhhhh Yessssss

Nice, will be checking out the ones I don't know. A few I can think of:

Piddy Py - Giggle riddim
JTJ Productions - It's you
Subzero ft. Sacha - Cheat on you
Dizzee Rascal - Flex (DJ Q remix)
Burgaboy ft. Teresa - You lied
Ear Dis - Hey Girl (T2 remix)

yyaldrin
16-09-2012, 03:03 PM
Nice, will be checking out the ones I don't know. A few I can think of:

Piddy Py - Giggle riddim
JTJ Productions - It's you
Subzero ft. Sacha - Cheat on you
Dizzee Rascal - Flex (DJ Q remix)
Burgaboy ft. Teresa - You lied
Ear Dis - Hey Girl (T2 remix)

No Dexplicit?

Benny B
16-09-2012, 03:15 PM
ah yes, someone might wanna nominate Bullacake at least.

Tentative Andy
16-09-2012, 06:39 PM
^ On my list.

Tentative Andy
16-09-2012, 06:40 PM
Going through other people's noms has got me listening to lots of old Ruff Sqwad again. This is of course a good thing.

Ory
16-09-2012, 07:27 PM
re: bassline

dj q ft. lenky - dc gang

or was that 2010 too? tbh 2009-2011 is all a big blur to me. not enough definitive moments.

Benny B
16-09-2012, 07:49 PM
re: bassline

dj q ft. lenky - dc gang

or was that 2010 too? tbh 2009-2011 is all a big blur to me. not enough definitive moments.

deffo 2009. What a tune! Love ragga chat over bassline.

I think if one bassline tune's gonna make it into my final list it would be Candy Shop - the tune that revived my interest in bassline once again (and forever). A definitive moment for me at least. We simply have to include 2010 if we do this thing don't we?

rubberdingyrapids
16-09-2012, 07:51 PM
not seen bongo eyes on any lists - i would nominate all 3 parts personally. i loved things like that - a particular track getting modified over and over and each part being released one after the other. like a little saga. there should be a greatest grime refixes/remixes list (bongo eyes, i luv pulse x, quite a few of the later mixes of pulse x were better than the original imo)

Benny B
16-09-2012, 07:59 PM
I was kinda hoping Luka, Slackk, Blackdown, Ach, Elijah, Spooky, Silverdollar, Sick Boy etc were gonna come with some grime lists, ie: people who were actually listening to grime when it was at its peak.

luka
17-09-2012, 06:53 AM
i would if i had a functioning memory

fhuckface
17-09-2012, 02:48 PM
Since it’s being asked for above I think I’ll provide a short list of some memorable grime instro’s when it was banging

Also I’m gonna group the 4X4/2 steppy stuff that was in the transition period in with it, job lot.

GRIME

Alias – Heat / Warriors / Warriors VIP
(As an alias of Alias) Studio Gangsters – Step Off
Davince – Last Night / Eyes On You
Danny Weed – Creeper
Macabre Unit – System / Lift Off / Lift Off VIP / Everyday Life
Wizzbit – Jam Hot / Jam Hot 2 / Jam Nite / Old School
Fyrus – Jaws / Operatic / War Riddem
Wonder – 8th wonder of the world / What
Wiley – Countless titles, but the ones that stand out are Dragon stout / Morgue / Eskimo 3 / Ice Rink
Imp Batch – Fusion (or whatever the instrumental was to crazy t’s singalong)
DJ Marsta – Gridlocked / Fibre / Gridlocked VIP / Straight Instrumental / Grover (this and the flip are some of the best grime instrumentals ever)
Eastwood – U Aint Ready / Champion VIP
Sticky – Paccman / (there was a white label remix of this not on discogs I have too)
Virgo – Monster
Dizzee Rascall (although I heard a fable that these early tunes were made by Wiley, for dizzee to release, to gain awareness around his name) – Hoe / Go / Strings
Unknown – It’s okay to creep
Hinzy D/Bionix (later found out bionix hadn’t made this and had catted the tune from Hinzy, quite a par as bionix got a feature in RWD around the time the tune dropped) – Target / Target VIP
Plasticman – Shockwave / Lift Off
Bossman – Bongo Eyes Reverse / Bongo Eyes / Bongo Eyes VIP
Statik – The Charge
J Sweet – Gutter / Gutter (Alias 4X4 Remix) / Kerb
Jammer – F. Hydrant / Platoon / Destruction / Rewind (Think this is what it’s called, it’s the one that had on the flip the Dizzee & Durtty Goods vocal ‘Stretch’ doogzy make em stretch, girls make em stretch, paper make it stretch etc...)
Shotz – Creep / Hollow
Terror Danjah – Basically everything on After Shock, love his stuff, including all the R&G edits.

Think that’s me done for now as I really should be working, but couldn’t resist making this list.

fhuckface
17-09-2012, 05:23 PM
also:

Rebound X - Rhythm & Gash
wizzbit - asterdoids / aquarius
Centurions - Aeries
macabre unit - dem no ready / its all about / take time
davince - buzz lighyear / Madness
big$hot - stomp / license to stomp / glitch (can probably be cross reff'd in 4x4/bassline too)
2 Good To Be True – U Ain't Ready (Remastered) (basically a variation of Eastwood's U Aint Ready, easily the best version, this or the clash version, one released on black magic, the other released on southside)
DJ Oddz - Strung Up / VIP / Breakbeat / Gangster (Love this one) / Bump Dis (check the grooves in the record - YOUR BARRED & BIG UP RINSE FM)
DJ Wire - Believe Me / Last Chance (X-Ref with Bingo Beats style stuff, zinc etc..)
Musical Mob Royale - Salsa (and the remixes) / Pulse Y / Pulse XYZ / Pulse X / Full Moon
DJ Charmzy - Concentration / How we get down an R / R-Ha / (VIP) / Rollercoaster
DJ Dread D (now T-Williams) - Invasion / Invasion VIP
Jon E Cash - Kettle / Kettle VIP / Spanish Fly / Hoods UP / Horns (on the flip of the re-issue of Invasion by dread D) / Spanish (Original to the fly version, the better one of the two)
Wiley (cont...) - Igloo / Pulse Eskimo / I will not lose (the remix on the flip of snowcat is seeeeeeerious) / They should know / avenger
Outlaw Breaks (TNT) (An alias for Target & somebody else) - Nissi / Unique / Transmission
Bionix vs Diesel (whether or not he did make this tune is unknown for me, probably was Diesel on his own though judging by bionix track record....anyway, if, like me, you wondered what that tune was Titch was spitting over just before he beefs with Dizzee, look no further) - Electro (the first tune in this vid, it's diff version that got rlsd to the one that's in conflict though - i think?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oa1v4F5q9ek&feature=player_embedded#!)

going to go through my actual grime record box now and see if there is any more essentials i've missed

fhuckface
17-09-2012, 05:28 PM
oh and one more essential one...

DJ Virus - Rudesting http://www.discogs.com/Z-Virus-Rudesting-Refix/release/3223683

fucking BELTER

also DJ Virus is zander hardy from deep teknologi...not too sure either but i think the rudesting video is just the original version

fhuckface
17-09-2012, 05:32 PM
oh and i'm an oldschool grime geek btw incase u hadn't guessed, but someone PLEASE id the first tune in this vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpDITHg0xW4&feature=related

couldn't get the name at the time and it still eludes me....anyone help? edit, spooky?

edit* and also at the risk of this becoming a grime id thread, can someone confirm im not going mad. Back in those days I went to RD & bought a single sided press of bubbles from roll deep's 'Do It' (i distinctly remember the vocal sample from the tune) however when my records were stolen from a youth club a few years later i lost it, but i can't find it on discogs or on the internet anywhere, long shot but can anyone help? im sure i bought it, i can remember being pissed off at the single side 12" but i bought everything that was released back then, espec from the E3 lot

atoga
17-09-2012, 09:32 PM
oh and i'm an oldschool grime geek btw incase u hadn't guessed, but someone PLEASE id the first tune in this vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpDITHg0xW4&feature=related

couldn't get the name at the time and it still eludes me....anyone help? edit, spooky?
it's a Lady B Line, don't know the name... just a Slimzee dubplate though.

gragy10
18-09-2012, 08:29 AM
also:
Outlaw Breaks (TNT) (An alias for Target & somebody else) - Nissi / Unique / Transmission


That'd be Trend / Noel Gifford

Benny B
19-09-2012, 11:14 PM
good work fhuckface. have to agree on Eskimo 3 being one of Wiley's absolute best, maybe only Ice Rink is better.

Tentative Andy
29-09-2012, 03:42 PM
Real talk: the ILX 80s rock tracks poll was way more fun & exciting than the 00s dance poll.

Corpsey
28-10-2012, 03:06 PM
^ link for that, Andy? ^

They've started a top 50 electronic albums of the 90's thread now: http://www.ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?boardid=41&threadid=94224#unread

tomfun
09-11-2012, 03:57 PM
I noticed your Broken Beat selections were a bit sparse, i played a shit tonne of that back in the late 90s/early 00s alongside the more soulful 2 step stuff.


Afronaught - Transcend Me (Anthem ay co op)
BB Boogie - Tell Him (Same as above)
Seiji - Loose Lips (As above)
Mark Force - Gypo
Tubby T - Ready She Ready (Seiji Mix)
Cousin Cockroach - This Ain't Tom & Jerry
Jazztronik - Samurai
Dom Um Romao - Lake Of Perseverance (Seiji Mix)
Lekan Babalola - Aso Kere (IG Culture Mix)
Nepa Allstars - The Way
Rima - Forward
Nutmeg - Bicycle Kick
Sunship - Almighty Father (Solid Groove Mix)
Domu - Worldwide (Solid Groove Mix)
Son Of Scientist - Theory Beats (Mixed over slightly older nu jazz records)
Patterns Included - Boogie Bwoy Skank (Brock Bass Mix)
Ty - Wait A Minute
Zumen - Rolexxx
Vikter Duplaix - Looking For Love (Bugz In The Attic Mix)
Charlie Keltner Project - Airto (Modaji Mix)
Izzi Dunn - Betcha Did
Mark De Clive Lowe - Move On Up (Dub)

This is just the ones i remember off the top of my head, i am sure i have missed a bunch of IG Culture, Landslide, Bugz In The Attic, Modaji, Nathan Haines records and many other classics.

Broken Beat was never really considered part of the Nuum theory you guys espouse on here,was it?

Corpsey
03-01-2013, 05:24 PM
I guess we're never going to do ours, eh?

Oh well, here's ILX's ''Tracks Of The 90s'' thread (http://www.ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?boardid=41&threadid=94656#unread) to tide us over while we take a good hard look at ourselves in the mirror and think about what we've not done.

Corpsey
03-01-2013, 05:31 PM
Actually, I was being rather blase about not doing it but I see people have listed a whole heap of tunes in this thread - is there a way this could still be done?

I presume we'd have to put all the named tunes in a big list and pick out a certain number each with each vote meaning a point? Organisation is not my strong suite, unfortunately.

I also wonder if it would be good to have certain members picking representative tunes from scenes i.e. continuum obviously knows more than most people on here about Bassline. But would it be more a question of which Bassline tune e.g. has transcended the scene it came from to become a hit/anthem for the 'ardkore nation in general?

QUESTIONS QUESTIONS

Corpsey
03-01-2013, 05:32 PM
BTW can we somehow get Tim F to this thread to do a rundown of funky tunes in particular? And then to do full write ups for all 100 tracks, with footnotes and accompanying windows movie maker videos?

Also, to make things even more Dissensian, we could have short opinion pieces attached to each tune - one from a lover of the tune, one from a fighter of the tune. I.E. Blackdown could talk about how great Burial is and then Luka could slag Burial off immediately afterwards? Plus I know certain members (rubberdinghyrapids?) like wobble tunes and other members hate them soooooooo

Or maybe we could just save the arguing for the thread itself?

rubberdingyrapids
03-01-2013, 06:07 PM
i think tentative andy and benny b have funky covered well enough. and others have put in some less comprehensive funky selections so we dont need tim f. :p

Benny B
03-01-2013, 08:16 PM
I already said that I wouldn't mind organising it and made some suggestions about how it could be done. TBH Corpsey I'm not really sure enough people are still around to take part and make it worthwhile though, this place is really dying off it seems. If enough people show interest then we could give it a go but it might turn out a bit lame.

Tim F fans should check this out btw, his 2012 round-up. Brilliant stuff
http://www.ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?boardid=41&threadid=94835#unread

datwun
04-01-2013, 12:28 AM
I'm still up for the poll!

Has anyone mentioned any Narrows?

Saved Soul & Kick Daan ya Door

On a similar dark garage tip I'd nominate these nearly forgotten treasures:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUa6LEdThtw


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImplpnOIKPc
Hardcore Garage.

I think it'd be great to have a list, we could all do blurbs for it and we could even make it in to a series of blog posts: 100-91, 90-81 etc.

baboon2004
04-01-2013, 09:43 AM
I already said that I wouldn't mind organising it and made some suggestions about how it could be done. TBH Corpsey I'm not really sure enough people are still around to take part and make it worthwhile though, this place is really dying off it seems. If enough people show interest then we could give it a go but it might turn out a bit lame.

Tim F fans should check this out btw, his 2012 round-up. Brilliant stuff
http://www.ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?boardid=41&threadid=94835#unread

Thanks for the link - Finney's selection and prose excellent as usual. I remember when Simon Reynolds was this good. Speaking of which, in the spirit of end-of-year roundups, I bought the Wire yesterday and the bit where they get writers to sum up their pros and cons of 2012 was worth the price in itself (I imagine a couple of people here wrote pieces for it) - loads of excellent recommendations for film and books as well as for music.

Rumours of Dissensus dying off are an Xmas/New Year tradition, I think - it always gets very quiet

Benny B
04-01-2013, 04:14 PM
Lovely to see Lapaz Toyota get such a high place and a spot-on write up in Tim's roundup and he chose the correct Jackin' tunes too. And absolutely no complaints about the number 1 spot from me.

Dissensus needs a bit of a kick up the arse I'd say with some fresh posters, maybe it'll pick up. :slanted:

RE: poll, I'll start a new thread that compiles all the nomination lists we've got so far and then we can decide what to do after that.

Tentative Andy
06-01-2013, 12:00 PM
^ Co-signing all of the appreciation for Tim's eoy list. In addition to just being great music writing, it's been making me re-assess my feeling that 2012 was quite a poor year in music. Going through the list has made me realize that there was plenty of good stuff going on, just that this was mostly well away from my center of gravity as it were.
I dunno, I can definitely see myself getting more into vocal-based, song-form music again - think the time when contemporary dance music could fill all or even most of my musical needs has passed, at least for now.

Tentative Andy
06-01-2013, 12:04 PM
Going to link to Werkin Girls by Angel Haze for anyone who's not heard it, because it's one of the tunes from Tim's list that feels like it fits closest with what Dissensians tend to be into:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RS1gKv9zDJ8
Got that cold, steely-eyed energy to it.