View Full Version : Grindcore

04-09-2012, 08:51 AM
After listening to TY segall from a while, i decided re-visit a time when i was on a strict diet of heavy guitars. Content of some of this music highly illicit. I apologize and I do not condone any of this behaviour never have and never will! its purely for the guitars and not the horrible imagery. Not everything here is grind.

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04-09-2012, 02:37 PM
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Obviously, if you wanna big up modern grind, these boys.

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A friend of mine's band; basically "Ballardian Grindcore/Power Violence"

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Biggest nerds in grind.

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Yes, they're still at it, and the old men can still fucking deliver time and time again.

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Yet another friend of mine. He's got one cybergrind/joke band that's okay, and the other is a 'grindgaze' band, as he so puts it.

Someone hit me up when you're ready to do a 1997-2006 post-hardcore/metalcore thread, and I can do a diatribe how the last great american independent movement got pissed upon by fucking music industry fuckery.

04-09-2012, 02:41 PM
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04-09-2012, 02:58 PM
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Local Authority
05-09-2012, 09:16 PM
Just when I thought this forum was all about pointless London dance music (sic) intellectualization

Great to see something a different, might start a Black Metal thread too if this gets enough hits.

On topic; The Endless Blockade (rip) were a great band, along with the likes of Despise You, Capitalist Casualties etc. Although they might want to be classed as powerviolence rather than grindcore.

padraig (u.s.)
07-09-2012, 05:57 AM
yeah, unexpected (and probably not very popular) dissensus topic

the truth is, there are really only 5 essential grindcore records. not that there aren't other good/enjoyable ones but grindcore is basically one idea that had been perfected by 1989 or so and everything since is rehashing or bastardizing (i.e. grind with screamo, or whatever). to wit:

1. napalm death - scum
some people - not me - would include mentally murdered +/or harmony corruption, everything after that is boring cookiecutter death metal. even side 1 of scum (w/broadrick) is noticeably better than side 2 (w/out). sidenote: it's pretty amazing how many cool things broadrick and mick harris have been involved in, both together and alone.
2. repulsion - horrified
3. terrorizer - world downfall
4. assuck - both lps (counting them together as one record, since that's still only 1/2 hour of music)
5. fear of god - as statues fell (all the eps are great as well)

honorable mention: brutal truth - extreme conditions demand extreme responses

padraig (u.s.)
07-09-2012, 06:25 AM
also back when I had this idea to have a rise of extreme guitar musics thread, basically the second half of the 80s - inception of death + black metal, grind, even powerviolence (via infest/pissed happy children etc), but this if the wrong forum for it but since we're here, related things

other honorable mentions, forerunners or fellow travelers: siege - drop dead, d.r.i. - everything up to dealing with it, s.o.b. - don't be swindle, the entire UK scene of the time (ND, extreme noise terror, bolt thrower - first record is very grind-ish, ripchord + heresy, doom, electro hippies, etc), the aforementioned powerviolence axis (infest, phc/mitb, neanderthal, etc). plus I mean there's lots of other things but not to go on.

a couple way uknown/underrated not quite grind favorites tho

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really great swedish band that came from the great swedish d-beat tradition (anticimex, antisocial, mob 47, etc ad fin) but wound up playing well, I dunno how to describe it really, crusty grind ballads maybe? way ahead of their time tho

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like if d.r.i. had been 50% faster (yes), caustically morbid and australian

padraig (u.s.)
07-09-2012, 06:32 AM
The Endless Blockade

also, yeah, were a great band. pretty on the powerviolence/noise axis. the guy (who also has a pretty great blog (http://survivalist-deathcult.blogspot.com/) where he intermittently rights about powerviolence and other similar guitar musics, noise, critical theory type books he's reading and so on) \was also in a whole bunch of great scottish bands from the mighty crust/grind scene of the 90s: ebola, sawn off, shank, etc.

Local Authority
08-09-2012, 05:47 PM
Alongside Man Is The Bastard etc.

But we could sit here reeling off grindcore/PV band names from the past. Its a shame that the genre's only went so far. Although there have been one or two bands of recent times that have actually done something interesting such as Iron Lung and Pig Destroyer.

Most metal these days has become a parody of itself, you can draw similarities between metal - metalcore and dubstep - 'bro'step.

There is some decent conversation to be had on black metal, past the satanism and nazi ideology, or even on those. The music is an even more fascinating topic than any conversation on dubstep and funky house could be.

08-09-2012, 08:06 PM
This is where I remind you guys, annually, that Joe Muggs claimed Enter Shikari making dubstep/moshcore was completely progressive, in order to undermine his credibility once a year.

Because I CANNOT forgive that, in any way, shape, or form.

Also, metalcore/post-hardcore/whatever you want to label it went REALLY far, I don't know what anyone's talking about when they say that had a limited range of where to go. Simply put, everyone just likes to pretend that it exhausted itself a lot faster than their attention spans ran out, Christian Labels started monopolizing the industry and a lot of bands with good solid music and followings were cursed with guys who decided that they were LIMITED by the genre they developed in.