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Corpsey
11-11-2012, 11:41 AM
Watched a film called ''Tokyo Gore Police'' last night. Completely batshit mental, and heavily inspired by American gore-fests like ''Robocop'' and presumably the body horror of yer Cronenbergs et al. But there was something particularly Japanese about its craziness - reminding me of the weirdness of Japanese porn (Octopuses, weird tongue-mad kissing etc.). The OTT nature of it.

Anyway, I'm wondering if there are any interesting articles or books (or documentaries) explaining the origin of some of these weirder Japanese cultural elements? In fact, it wouldn't even have to be Japanese strictly, I suppose I'm interested in cultural expressions of perversity and violence generally. I'm presuming the Japanese thing comes from living in a very socially ordered and strict society with a history of extreme violence? I wondered, too, if some of the more extreme fleshy mutations on show in TGPolice could be - perhaps tenuously - linked to the melted mutated victims of Hiroshima/Nagasaki for example.

Corpsey
11-11-2012, 11:44 AM
http://www.helium.com/items/1530106-why-is-anime-overly-violent-or-sexual

This covers some of it, looks quite interesting.

yyaldrin
11-11-2012, 05:16 PM
I don't really know the answer to your question, there are some books on Japanese cinema in general I believe. The link you provided seems to be an interesting thesis altough I've always found it a bit obvious. A quick search to books on Japanese cinema in general resulted in the following list:


Tom Mes & Jasper Sharp The Midnight Eye Guide to New Japanese Film Uitgever: Stone Bridge Press 376 bladzijden prijs: $22.95 (paperback) ISBN: 1880656892

Mark Schilling The Yakuza Movie Book: A Guide to Japanese Gangster Films Uitgever: Stone Bridge Press 335 bladzijden Prijs: $19.95 (paperback) ISBN 1-880656-76-0

Patrick Galloway Stray Dogs& Lone Wolves: The Samurai Film Handbook Uitgever: Stone Bridge Press 2405 bladzijden Prijs: $19.95 (paperback) ISBN 1-880656-93-0

Isolde Standish A New History of Japanese Cinema. A Century of Narrative Film Uitgever: Continuum Books 452 bladzijden Prijs: 25.00 (gebonden) ISBN: 0826417094

Don't know if it covers your specific question. Could we maybe turn this topic into suggestions or recommendations for more "extreme" movies. If so I'd like to point towards this gem:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6suX5z40dkg

It's insane, the entire length of the movie is action, explosion after explosion.

IdleRich
11-11-2012, 07:15 PM
The link to the gem appears totally blank in my browser - what film is it?

Mr. Tea
11-11-2012, 08:12 PM
Oh man I am all over this film when I get home.

yyaldrin
11-11-2012, 08:41 PM
It's called Dead Leaves, directed by Hiroyuki Imaishi. The Youtube link is English dubbed, I always prefer the original with English subtitles. There's a pretty obvious but funny reference to Tetsuo, the Iron Man in it as well. In fact, it might be a great idea to watch these two films subsequently.

mistersloane
12-11-2012, 05:27 PM
Anyway, I'm wondering if there are any interesting articles or books (or documentaries) explaining the origin of some of these weirder Japanese cultural elements? In fact, it wouldn't even have to be Japanese strictly, I suppose I'm interested in cultural expressions of perversity and violence generally.

You probably wanna have a look at the Creation Books Cinema series, especially Eros In Hell

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Eros-Hell-Japanese-Creation-Collection/dp/1871592933

and maybe Deathtripping too. They're quite useful introductions, tho as socio-political texts I don't think you'll get quite as deep as one might like to know from them. Good starting point though maybe.

mistersloane
12-11-2012, 05:28 PM
on the 'Eros' amazon page there are a few mentions of books in the review section as well which might give you what you're looking for.

blacktulip
12-11-2012, 08:49 PM
http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2011/feb/27/people-who-eat-darkness-lucie-blackman-review

mistersloane
12-11-2012, 11:08 PM
http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2011/feb/27/people-who-eat-darkness-lucie-blackman-review

^^^ well scary