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shiels
11-07-2013, 03:59 PM
There seems to be much more research into the transformative qualities of psychedelics (taken in the right context) over the past few years. Especially for the treatment of depression, anxiety and addiction. It's about time they were taken seriously again, people seem to have learnt from the mistakes of Tim Leary etc

http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/?p=155586

http://spiritualityhealth.com/articles/second-coming-psychedelics


There's a convention going on in london this weekend that i'm annoyed i'm missing
http://breakingconvention.co.uk/


I had one of the most amazing experiences of my life just over a year ago taking ayahuasca in Peru. though i wasn't exactly depressed, anxious or addicted to anything, i'm still learning from what happened there and people have commented on a change in me (though as always that can't simply be put down to the ayahuasca i'm sure it played a huge part). taken with the right intentions in the right environment these plants have a lot to show us.

Mr. Tea
11-07-2013, 04:30 PM
Cool stuff - there was a decent thread about this sort of thing a few years back, unfortunately I dunno if it'll be findable seeing as the search function is still fucked. Might be worth looking back in Thought and Nature?

shiels
11-07-2013, 04:36 PM
ah ok will do. Yes the search function is annoying, somewhere buried in here is a really good thread with a marxist/psychoanalyst guy critiquing buddhism and ideas of ego transcendence and i can't find it.

sufi
11-07-2013, 04:47 PM
what's wrong with the search function? works ok for me
http://www.dissensus.com/search.php?searchid=100184

Mr. Tea
13-07-2013, 12:23 PM
what's wrong with the search function? works ok for me
http://www.dissensus.com/search.php?searchid=100184

Yeah but you're a 33rd-degree Grand Master of the Inner Dissensus Temple.

sufi
13-07-2013, 10:07 PM
Sorry - no matches. Please try some different terms.

tell me where is the search bork and i will terminate him with extreme prejudice

GriarMiter
31-10-2013, 09:56 AM
There was a decent thread about this sort of thing a few years back.

muser
31-10-2013, 03:27 PM
I tend to follow the opinion that strong long-lasting hallucinogens are pretty much of the worst drugs you can give to people suffering from severe anxiety or depression tbh. I can see the possibilities for MDMA for things like PTSD, if they havn't taken it before, and ibogaine sounds like it can be useful.

shiels
06-11-2013, 12:41 PM
there's evidence to the contrary though http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/unique-everybody-else/201210/psilocybin-anxiety-and-depression-in-cancer

Depends heavily on the person, the nature of their condition, set and setting. I think it's ridiculous not to consider psychedelics as an option

by strong, long lasting do you mean ayahuasca & LSD? i certainly wouldn't recommend an acid trip to someone suicidal no, or on the verge of a breakdown, i don't think anyone is recommending that actually.

muser
06-11-2013, 03:42 PM
To be honest my opinion is purely biased by my own experience, i'm not discounting psychedelic drugs as being useful but from my experience of using psychedelics and generally being around different types of people that have/still take them alot. What you actually get out of them is very much affected on your perceptions of what you think you're supposed to be getting out of them, and what you "believe". There was some study where they had claimed to find the part of the brain that caused the feeling of intense religious experiences by studying people who had had strokes and then subsequently had some intense religious vision or epiphany. I'm sure psychedelics can cause it also.

To me LSD seems like an incredibly complex and chaotic drug (in regards to how it effects brain) to use with consistent results for any therapy. I don't really know about Ayahuasca I've only smoked pure DMT, but im guessing it is affecting the brain in a similar way (apart from the effects of some of the other active ingredients) but less intense and alot longer, DMT was just like a indescribable roller-coaster ride to me.