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redcrescent
24-04-2005, 10:04 PM
Great piece (http://observer.guardian.co.uk/omm/story/0,13887,1464368,00.html) on UK post-punk 1978-1984 in the OMM. Spot on, as ever. I'm looking forward to reading Rip it Up...

Any thoughts?

mpc
24-04-2005, 10:33 PM
i think i'm gonna read it over the summer.

john eden
25-04-2005, 09:41 AM
I think I'm going to buy it on May 6th.

Lots of great reviews for it around the place... nice one, Simon...

boomnoise
25-04-2005, 10:27 AM
my copy turned up last week. had a quick flick through but not embarked upon it quite yet. it looks great though. really like the cover but the book is unfeasibly large - lots of white space around the text. good for scribbling notes but not for lugging around. i like the little ironic 'compact book' logo on the cover though.

jenks
25-04-2005, 11:17 AM
have been up to macclesfield and back on the train and picked up my copy of rip it up on the way to the station - devoured a quarter of it by the time i returned home to the family, bored my friend in macc with excellence of blissblogger's book - made him promise to check it out. the reviews have all been uniformly good and unusually with good reason, it is so readable and makes me realise a)how much great music came out at the time and b)how much of it i had missed.

mms
25-04-2005, 07:05 PM
got it on saturday. i'm pretty much 2/3rds thru it, it's excellent of course, adds all the details you wanted to know etc, its hard to put down.

Woebot
26-04-2005, 08:24 AM
I've got shedloads to say on this. I got the book about a month ago and have been poking my nose into it whenever I get the chance, currently at chapter 11 on London and Messthetics. However I swore to secrecy when I got my copy, and I'm uncertain as to exactly when I'm allowed to talk about it! The official release date is the 28th isn't it? I'm definitely going along to the talk as per to show support:

http://blissout.blogspot.com/2005_04_01_blissout_archive.html#11144580501861971 4

Also I have a cracking link to some awesome discographies which Simon has done, the "obscure" doc is a book in its own right. I would say that RIUASA is a truly colossal box of chocolates.....anyway lets hope this thread opens up with time.

henrymiller
26-04-2005, 09:09 AM
i think the embargo is lifted, dave -- you can get the book in shops now.

francesco
26-04-2005, 09:31 PM
My copy arrived today. Everyone can download the two discographies from the www.faber.co.uk website (go to the RIUASA page). The second is really a new book, i will print it before reading it....
.... the book look amazing, and so the first two chapters. More on the book after reading it.

labrat
27-04-2005, 09:58 AM
indeed, those faber website discographies are good (the second one -great,it pre-empts any record boy ''but he's not mentioned the Androids of Mu's Blood Robots malarkey) but for a 17 book ...why wern't they in there?
that said i paid a tenner in (yuk) HMV.

steve-k
27-04-2005, 06:35 PM
It's too bad the American version, which isn't coming out for quite awhile, will be much shorter(according to SR's blog). I guess I'll have to order the UK version.

mms
27-04-2005, 07:13 PM
indeed, those faber website discographies are good (the second one -great,it pre-empts any record boy ''but he's not mentioned the Androids of Mu's Blood Robots malarkey) but for a 17 book ...why wern't they in there?
that said i paid a tenner in (yuk) HMV.

yep 7.50 in amazon .
good that, for me anyway

francesco
28-04-2005, 12:38 PM
As much as you might loathe the Clash and the Stranglers, i think they deserve a place in the book


Yes, but apart that the Clash "Sandinista" is briefly descripted in the second discography, and problems of space apart, Clash and Stranglers are mostly Punk or PunkRock or Rock, but not PostPunk (i really know very little about the Stranglers so sorry if i'm wrong about them!). Also you can find tons of books about the Clash and dozen about Punk, while the scope of Reynolds book seem to concentrate on the sonic and/or lyrics innovations of PostPunk groups, so no Oi! or HarcorePunk for example, there are anyway some books about those. Also if he could write deep about everything that happened beetween 1978-84 the book should have been 7.000 pages long, probably. I'm enjoyng it, I have just read the McLaren/Bow Wow Wow chapter.

don_quixote
28-04-2005, 11:55 PM
i havent reached the sst chapter yet (hell, i'm just starting a new term at uni so things are a bit hectic, but i cant help but read it), but i can't wait. i turned into a bit of an sst junkie after reading that azeraad book a couple of years ago.

i didnt even realise there would be a chapter on it after the introduction so youve suprised me right there.

Pearsall
29-04-2005, 12:56 AM
Why is so much stuff getting chopped from the US version? Guess I'll have to get a British copy.

nomos
29-04-2005, 01:16 AM
Why is so much stuff getting chopped from the US version?
Did that happen with Energy Flash/Generation Ecstasy as well?

Grievous Angel
02-05-2005, 02:45 PM
What's most impressed me about the book so far is that the photo of the blissman makes him look so much like Matthew Ingram's older, more glamourous brother.

While the Clash were for much of the period reviewed still the best band on the planet, they were'nt a direct influence on post-punk (other than occasionally as something to react against), even when post-punk's participants still liked them.

The Stranglers were a prog band and I love them for it.

I'm really looking forward to reading this -- only got it yesterday -- cos it's basically mapping my youth.

But does it mention the Membranes? Or DigVisDrill? :)

Martin Dust
02-05-2005, 10:15 PM
Never trusted the Clash meself, always thought Joe was a complete fake...Mem's came from Blackpool didn't they? Wasn't that gobshite Jon Rob the singer? No mention of the second wave of punk bands - The Prams, Deaf Aids, Mau Maus etc...

Grievous Angel
03-05-2005, 11:15 AM
Yeah, Membranes from Blackpool, just like Phil Hine... John Robb was alright in the mid eighties.

Martin Dust
03-05-2005, 05:30 PM
Maybe, couldn't eat a full one mind...

brummie
21-09-2005, 11:55 PM
I always liked the Membranes and John Robb.

Ness Rowlah
22-09-2005, 12:10 AM
The Stranglers were a prog band and I love them for it.


I thought they were an R&B/pub-rock band who put on a bit of aggro?
But I did and do like 'em.

brummie
22-09-2005, 10:59 AM
it could be argues that they kicked off post punk with 1978's 'black and white' album, they were very origonal and underated....maybe their confrontational attitude to the music press didn't help!