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Woebot
25-04-2015, 12:44 PM
http://hardlybaked.blogspot.co.uk/2015/03/a-bit-of-fuckology.html

great comments thread here about whether the americans could ROCK

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propos just heard buffalo springfield's "mr soul" again yesterday - a total rip-off of the stones "satisfaction". interesting in w/regards to this us/uk rock debate - like a "control" in a science experiment - because satisfaction rocks defiantly while "mr soul" doesn't at all. it does groove - but it doesn't rock.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSqJf6JbpPA


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgYblVYEldY

perhaps groove is antithetical to rock? answers on a postcard to this thread.

CrowleyHead
25-04-2015, 07:29 PM
What is the 'rocking' though? Is it just the solidity or could it also be groove?

I recently dropped to a friend that Sleater-Kinney is one of America's last 'important'/'relatively big' rock groups, but they don't particularly rock. Oasis though is rock for days when they want to.

empty mirror
01-05-2015, 02:17 PM
A commenter dismisses ZZ Top as second tier - but I would rate their first few albums as the best examples of "Rock" vs. Rock and Roll out there.

I mean, cmon:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJpcg0ytBX8

Also, Spirit - who the venerated Led Zep ripped off - has to be in the running.
And CCR.
And The Doors.
Electric Flag.

I guess I just don't understand this at all.

droid
01-05-2015, 02:36 PM
Mr. Soul is an unapologetic rip off though wasnt it? Seem to remember a quote from Young saying he was trying to ape the Stones.

And then there's


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mG9m-6dVKRI

mistersloane
01-05-2015, 02:41 PM
Everything else they did sucked, but first 7 inch, rocked

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rubberdingyrapids
01-05-2015, 04:44 PM
perhaps groove is antithetical to rock? answers on a postcard to this thread.


so maybe bass isnt very rock.

rubberdingyrapids
01-05-2015, 04:47 PM
ramones could definitely rock (and bass wasnt esp important to any of their records that i can remember).

Mr. Tea
01-05-2015, 04:59 PM
so maybe bass isnt very rock.

Two words: Black. Sabbath.

OK, so they're British, but they're also a huge influence on RATM, who both rocked and grooved - on their first album, at the very least - and had bass to spare.

Trillhouse
05-05-2015, 05:18 PM
hmm..

'69

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcebE4ZbI5w

'70

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyMKDIMJ3dk

'70

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1VJjyDk4dQ

'71

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mn8uHKOoNpk

'71

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Joa3Kx4kLJM

'71

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jGGfOY3MGY

'72

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gk0q6tjD6gY

'73

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5cK58aCvA0

'74

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izw1_LYSThU

'76

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asImepYV1UU

'77

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyZ6zTrehzU

'78

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08MqYvU-yuM