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mistersloane
06-07-2015, 05:26 PM
Genuine question. I use grimeforum and here and that Ilove thing whatever and then random soundclouds, should I read music eurgh, what are they called? Are they websites? I like hiphop and grime and noise and probably free jazz, but I find the Wire hideous. I'm not writing in any sense of competition, I just genuinely don't know where to look nowadays, and I hate all my Facebook friends recommendations, they just go on about Mark Fisher and the Sleaford Mods.

mistersloane
06-07-2015, 05:31 PM
And all of you tories that tried to take over a forum by talking about boring house, begone man, your music is shite.

Leo
06-07-2015, 06:18 PM
besides checking out some music websites, it's not a bad idea to sign up for a few weekly new releases emails from retailers. bleep and boomkat have lots of dance music, other genres covered from places like forced exposure, aquarius records, etc. granted, they are all stores/distributors who are trying to sell you things, so the write-ups aren't critical reviews but they do let you know what's new with descriptions and oftentimes sound files.

these don't cover much grime and hiphop, though FE and aquarius are decent for noise and free jazz.

glasshand
06-07-2015, 06:58 PM
mostly just check the 'likes' of dj/artists i like on soundcloud

it is tedious and u gotta rely on the prolific likers

as far as i can tell reliable honest sources that align with what i like are thin on the ground, bring back mp3 blogs

paolo
06-07-2015, 09:12 PM
I actually use Boomkat as one of my main sources for finding out about new music

rubberdingyrapids
06-07-2015, 11:20 PM
radio.

though might be 1 in every 15 songs that you really wanna find out more about.

music reviews.

i feel im constantly behind now though. but could also be cos i dont like as much as i used to, dont invest as much time in finding new music as i used to, or am just old. when i was really into grime and dubstep, sites like boomkat were perfect. now i dont really know what i like compared to back then (or just like a lot more), its harder and more time consuming/disparate.

m99188868
07-07-2015, 11:20 AM
BANDCAMP!

I actually came to start a thread on it. I think we should do a thread for bandcamp 'name your price' jewels. There is some fucking great stuff to be found, really. Fact magazine does a monthly feature with great finds. I think Dissensus should be able to do even better.

CrowleyHead
07-07-2015, 02:20 PM
Tumblr, web digging, this place, I still read Fact even though I slag them off about once a season for good measure in public (if you're reading this Tom, love you anyway, hire me and get rid of Alex Macpherson once and for all, this man knows fucking nothing), The Wire, a lot of digging through writer/blogger archives, picking up books on music, *takes a deep breath* radio, twitter, friends recommendations... I suppose that's it.

Rudewhy
07-07-2015, 04:31 PM
twitter/soundcloud
Red Eye (normally have physical releases up before any other online store)
http://www.radarradio.com

mistersloane
08-07-2015, 09:06 AM
Thanks everyone. I listen to radar and trawl through the net, and stuff, I find soundcloud and bandcamp hard to use, hard ot have enthusiasm for them as formats even though there's obviously brilliant stuff on there. I use youtube alot I guess.

Havent checked boomkat but used to.

paolo
08-07-2015, 09:46 AM
Resident Advisor and Juno Plus are quite good for keeping up to date with house and techno

The Quietus is OK as well. They sometimes have good reviews and interviews, mainly with experimental rock types

luka
08-07-2015, 10:57 AM
I'd like to listen to radio shows from atlanta chicago Houston new york la oakland etc which is presumably possible
Any suggestions? Rap and r&b

I want both the people that actually break records and the people who play all the big hits

Corpsey
08-07-2015, 12:27 PM
For rap music its hotnewhiphop.com, datpiff.com, livemixtapes.com, Complex, hiphopdx.com a couple of rap forums (the coli/kanyetothe.com)... I don't actually read any blogs nowadays, other than The Martorialist. Fake Shore Drive is good for Chicago stuff. Thizzler for Bay Area stuff (although I don't really go on there tbh.) Never really listen to/find any obscure underground/niche stuff, I tend to check out what's currently popular on those first few sites. I trust the popular taste, which is sort of the opposite of how I used to be with rap music, where I basically assumed that the most popular stuff was likely to be the worst.

And that's pretty much it for me, other than here. I've realised just by writing this reply that I'm in a very small bubble musically, these days. Dance music has ceased to exist for me, more or less (though I still explore old stuff from time to time - acid house, detroit techno etc.). And that makes me a sad panda.

I'm not sure there are hubs for discussion of dance music as there were in the past. Perhaps it was just for DNB and Dubstep that those things existed but ever since dubstepforum become uninteresting to me I haven't found another forum other than Dissensus with a high degree of activity. Perhaps all that discussion has migrated to YouTube and Facebook?

Also, I should listen to 1xtra more, cos whenever I've done that in the past its always thrown up some songs I never would have bothered checking out by myself.

Corpsey
08-07-2015, 12:30 PM
Luka - these two look promising for Atlanta
http://hotspotatl.com/
http://streetz945.com/proof/

Tuned into hot spot 107.9 and they're debating which one of Outkast you'd save if you found them both drowning.

Thanks for this idea luka cos now I'm listening to traffic reports and jewelry store adverts

luka
08-07-2015, 01:08 PM
I'll get into that Nice1

Corpsey
08-07-2015, 01:20 PM
Gave up pretty quickly, soooo many adverts. I think there might be some good mix shows on there, though, this was a morning show.

CrowleyHead
08-07-2015, 02:56 PM
There are apps that allow you to connect to radio stations all over the world based around major metropolis in america, and I know a bunch of writers/bloggers use them to keep in touch with what's big in ATL, Cali, wherever... I can't remember which but I'll try to put them in here if I rediscover, I imagine one or two connects to Rinse, Kiss and 1Xtra as well for us folk here.

There's also youtube channels for a lot of stuff... Charlie "Drugmoney" has a channel where he hosts a lot of underground Atlanta stuff in the Rich Homie Quan/Young Thug axis, along with a bunch of other post-futuristic/swag people... And then for R&Bass or ratchet, you got the YoungCalifornia blog... Etc. etc.

trza
08-07-2015, 03:43 PM
I like to check the various profiles and sites of the djs and bloggers and writers I follow. The front pages of record stores are nice to check out even if its just for the latest artwork. I still visit message boards and strangely can't look away even when half the people are lunatics (present company excluded).

For older music I have a habit of downloading everything I can find when I see a blog or resource that I like. Obscure music blogs have a pattern where someone starts sharing something for love of music or to share something they love with others, but after a while they get tired and stop updating or links expire or the dmca notices and takedowns make the whole thing not any fun. Resources for downloads or obscure databases have a way of disappearing overnight and you will only regret not grabbing something while you can.

IdleRich
08-07-2015, 08:08 PM
I love the boomkat mail out for the writing and for the fact you can listen to the music for every new single. The writing often has very little to do with the music it's ostensibly about but that's part of the fun.

Corpsey
08-07-2015, 08:57 PM
Boomkat shitting on Jamie XX was one of the best pieces of music crit I've seen lately.

Leo
08-07-2015, 09:08 PM
not all boomkat write-ups are original content, probably at least half of them are a straight copy/paste of the record label's PR blurb (you can find lots of near-verbatim write-ups on forced exposure, phonica and juno sites, for example).

that said, they did get some recent attention for their original write-ups:
http://www.factmag.com/2015/05/28/boomkat-write-better-reviews-than-your-favourite-magazine/

Glacial 718
09-07-2015, 04:54 AM
just preeing what DJs are playing and occasionally chancing new artists I haven't heard of before off grimeforum / thecoli / datpiff / hoodtapes etc.

Hot 97 is often still good btw

are there any (decent) semi-longform music download blogs still going?

m99188868
09-07-2015, 08:22 AM
are there any (decent) semi-longform music download blogs still going?

Adam Harper's Rouge Foam (http://rougesfoam.blogspot.be) is still going strong. He does not offer downloads, but frequently links to the Bandcamp (often free) download pages of the discussed music. Pretty fantastic.

IdleRich
09-07-2015, 11:32 AM
"Boomkat shitting on Jamie XX was one of the best pieces of music crit I've seen lately"
Where is that then? I've never really seen much negative writing from them, just a load of stuff saying that every single release every week is undeniably the greatest piece of art of the last two millennia.


"not all boomkat write-ups are original content, probably at least half of them are a straight copy/paste of the record label's PR blurb (you can find lots of near-verbatim write-ups on forced exposure, phonica and juno sites, for example)."
Well you'd kinda guess that to be the case... except the boomkat hyperbole often goes far beyond what you'd imagine any press release to dare.
Also, boomkat are always pushing these kinda novelty things in sleeves made of hair or whatever - my friend was saying it reminds him of the comics industry a few years back when there were loads of limited edition gimmicks used to sell substandard products, in a few years there will be a load of people with a collection full of unlistenable records with sleeves handcarved from driftwood or music only available as a USB that is fitted into a cork in a bottle, wondering what the fuck they were thinking.

Leo
09-07-2015, 01:13 PM
Where is that then?


Jamie xx practises safe raving with his debut solo album proper, following a 2011 collaboration with Gil Scott-Heron and production as part of The xx. 'In Colour' posits Jamie as the pre-eminent posh soul boy, lifting and massaging inspiration from the rich heritage of late '80s + early '90s London dance culture and channelling it into a pop-ready format palatable to Radio 1 daytime tastes and festival soundtracks. The putative "soul" of rare groove, boogie, hardcore and early jungle is sucked out and spliced with vocals in feathered arrangements ripened up for students and yummy mummys alike - all under one roof. From the deflated hardcore of 'Gosh' to the trudging 'Girl', it's as seductive as a Waitrose fridge on a warm day, infused with exotic tropical reference points in the steel drums of 'Obvs', mixing the suburban Breaks of latter-day Chicane and Marine Parade with woolly chords right out of a Lamb classic in 'Hold Tight', or nodding to seminal Joss Stone in 'Loud Places'. Oh, it's going to be a great summer, we can just feel it.

http://boomkat.com/cds/1250930-jamie-xx-in-colour

IdleRich
09-07-2015, 01:25 PM
Blimey, I didn't know they had bad words on their keyboard. Though I reckon on a hot day a Waitrose fridge is bound to have some good stuff in it.

Leo
09-07-2015, 02:18 PM
Blimey, I didn't know they had bad words on their keyboard. Though I reckon on a hot day a Waitrose fridge is bound to have some good stuff in it.

check out that fact article for more examples: http://www.factmag.com/2015/05/28/boomkat-write-better-reviews-than-your-favourite-magazine/

mistersloane
09-07-2015, 03:17 PM
I like TrillPhonk's youtube

https://www.youtube.com/user/TrillPhonk/videos

He posts kinda indie smackrap, all those people who use Vs in their names, that stuff.

baboon2004
09-07-2015, 04:40 PM
none less obscure, but the guy who writes this column in the grauniad has a very good hit rate imo:

http://www.theguardian.com/music/2015/jun/24/the-playlist-middle-eastern-and-north-african-alif-eek-mdou-moctar-and-more

IdleRich
09-07-2015, 05:09 PM
He's just got an autobiography out that guy... people are saying it's good. Then you should ask Lewis about him, I think they had a run-in or two - in fact JD offered him out I believe.

Pandiculate
09-07-2015, 05:30 PM
Blimey, I didn't know they had bad words on their keyboard. Though I reckon on a hot day a Waitrose fridge is bound to have some good stuff in it.

Waitrose think they're too fucking good to stock single cans in the fridge

IdleRich
09-07-2015, 05:36 PM
There isn't one round here unfortunately... I guess I'm just imagining a promised land of unobtainable food in there.

baboon2004
09-07-2015, 06:11 PM
He's just got an autobiography out that guy... people are saying it's good. Then you should ask Lewis about him, I think they had a run-in or two - in fact JD offered him out I believe.

he's got great taste in music, but obvs highly possible to still be a wanker as a person. Will ask Lewis...

Leo
10-07-2015, 01:20 PM
the quietus just launched a grime column: http://thequietus.com/articles/18280-one-take-grime-column

woops
10-07-2015, 02:07 PM
...I don't find out about music.

I had a plan to listen to NTS radio more they seem good, but my phone just packed in so that plan's off.

IdleRich
10-07-2015, 03:53 PM
With older music I like to set up searches on ebay so that it picks out any record in any genre with a soundfile, that way you get sent hundreds of soundfiles every day and you can go through them all if you've got the energy. And buy or not depending on how much you like them.

rubberdingyrapids
13-07-2015, 10:22 AM
this is kind of about habit isnt it? before, youd listen to one thing, or read one mag (or a few), etc etc, but now there are a zillion options to find out about new music and you can get them all for free/in seconds.

rubberdingyrapids
13-07-2015, 10:23 AM
the quietus just launched a grime column: http://thequietus.com/articles/18280-one-take-grime-column

not sure id go to the quietus for a grime column.