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sufi
22-07-2015, 12:51 PM
https://passwords.google.com/settings/passwords

I was directed to this page a while ago by some random twitter/blog, when i tried to find it again i couldn’t, to the point that i thought maybe it was just a bad dream, honestly...

It contains the password to my router at home, as well as loads of other sites that are nothing to do with google, that have been sniffed by chrome...

enough is enough

and even if it had been a weird nightmare, that was sufficient mental turbulence to inspire me to start getting my shit off google. Who of course also run my mobile phone.

I also read a blog by a guy who tried to delete google pics, only to find that they were still publishing photos from his phone insecurely online http://www.theverge.com/2015/7/14/8956945/google-photos-collecting-pictures-android-after-delete-app

I already use https://duckduckgo.com/ for searching, tho it's less featured than google, and use incognito browsing when i don't want to be tracked,

I guess i'll need to keep a google account as it's pretty impossible to use android without it,

give me more tips, anecdotes please

droid
22-07-2015, 04:27 PM
I was locked out of facebook recently and its given me the impetus to shut it down completely. Their evil has gotten way out of hand.

I think the only way to engage with online tech companies is through shell identities. Fake name and address, fake GPS from decoy phones, fake photos, fake search history - all designed to connect your real interaction to a completely false substitute identity.

Theres a startup idea right there!

mistersloane
22-07-2015, 06:21 PM
https://passwords.google.com/settings/passwords

I was directed to this page a while ago by some random twitter/blog, when i tried to find it again i couldn’t, to the point that i thought maybe it was just a bad dream, honestly...



When I go to that site, it just says that my browser isn't updated enough to see what's on the site, so maybe that's a way round it all, or maybe I just cant see what they got on me; either way it made me laugh.

firefinga
22-07-2015, 08:43 PM
https://passwords.google.com/settings/passwords

I was directed to this page a while ago by some random twitter/blog, when i tried to find it again i couldn’t, to the point that i thought maybe it was just a bad dream, honestly...

It contains the password to my router at home, as well as loads of other sites that are nothing to do with google, that have been sniffed by chrome...

enough is enough

and even if it had been a weird nightmare, that was sufficient mental turbulence to inspire me to start getting my shit off google. Who of course also run my mobile phone.

I also read a blog by a guy who tried to delete google pics, only to find that they were still publishing photos from his phone insecurely online http://www.theverge.com/2015/7/14/8956945/google-photos-collecting-pictures-android-after-delete-app

I already use https://duckduckgo.com/ for searching, tho it's less featured than google, and use incognito browsing when i don't want to be tracked,

I guess i'll need to keep a google account as it's pretty impossible to use android without it,

give me more tips, anecdotes please

Soon enough, they will run you cars as well. Lovely prospect, right?

Thank heavens I love motorcycles.

Woebot
25-07-2015, 09:34 AM
hi sufi

i went to that page - i just got this message

"You don't have any passwords saved in Chrome, or you are not syncing them. Change settings."

i think if you change your settings - or ask chrome not to save your info you'd be fine

i use lastpass for all my passwords. i also have history switched off in chrome and it purges all my cookies when i log out. i don't have anything to hide particularly (privacy is for paedos right?) - i just don't see it is necessary for google to have this information. and of course i'm sure it's probably all tracked anyway...

however i took the view a long while back that i'd put my eggs in one basket - so rather than trust my information to f***book/apple etc I'd just trust it to one company - so i went with google. they have my contacts and emails for instance.

actually google i don't mind.

sufi
11-08-2015, 11:22 AM
possibly the only useful thing i ever saw on linkedin
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/i-spent-2-nights-making-my-digital-life-less-cluttered-michelle-ruff?trk=prof-post

sufi
22-12-2016, 12:06 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/dec/22/google-profiting-holocaust-denial-jewish-breman-museum nice

sufi
21-01-2017, 09:27 PM
this, off a mailing list, with Andrew's permission, i like his tactics and systematic approach
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> Why do people still appear to trust Google?

I guess others can speak for themselves, but for my part, I don't trust
google at all at a human level. Besides their less-than-open
involvement with the NSA, they're more or less explicitly hostile to
user privacy.

So in terms of what I do about it, I try pretty hard not to trust them
at a technological level. It really is pretty hard to avoid them though.

I never use the main google search interface directly, though I do use
startpage.com, who anonymise and forward search queries to google. I
also use duckduckgo.com, who are more independent, but the results are
not as good for some types of queries.

I generally block cookies from google (cookiemonster), and I block a lot
of the like buttons and so forth (adblock with the easylist/easyprivacy
subscription and some customisation), but it's increasingly hard to use
large parts of the net without accepting google's javascript, and some
of the javascript
tools they provide to people require google cookies being enabled. This
is particularly true when people use google's captcha widget.

I resist use of google groups pretty much entirely. Google docs is
harder though. It's pretty hard to avoid it when clients want to use
google docs to collaboratively work on a document, and I don't know any
other tool to suggest which does that job as well. Wikis have their
place of course, but for simultaneous modification of a single document
with annotation, there's not much else.

I know of no good substitute for google's map search facility, but
outside of search, I use openstreetmaps.org. The actual map data seems
to be at least as complete as Google, and I can use it offline on my
phone, so even apart from the privacy arguments, it's pretty good.

And of course there's no end of people who choose to host with google.
Hard to just not use that chunk of the net.

I'm a technical guy, and I do a lot of server management. In that
context I try to promote alternatives to google software when clients
ask for it. I also make a point of removing references to google's
nameservers in server configurations, which are unfortunately extremely
common, and wind up with google getting a feed of info on people
conencting to various servers. e.g. if a user logs in via ssh, or sends
an email to the server their IP gets looked up in DNS, and that DNS
request often goes to google. Unfortunately this is very often the
default in VPS hosted machines as configured by the hosting provider,
and for example it's what you get if you use a ubuntu or debian docker
container without doing anything special about it.

I have experimentally tried firewalling off google's IP ranges from my
home machine. It really didn't last long. At a user level, it's pretty
hard to get away from google. We can only really disentangle ourselves
from google if we disentangle all the various sites which integrate with
them, and that requires a massive education campaign aimed at site builders.

Unfortunately, when I raise concerns about using google for various
things, I mostly get blank looks. For most people the possibility and
the reasons are not even on their radar.

Regards,
Andrew McNaughton
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sufi
21-01-2017, 09:31 PM
from the same thread
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- How the CIA made Google
https://medium.com/@NafeezAhmed/how-the-cia-made-google-e836451a959e

- Why Google made the NSA
https://medium.com/@NafeezAhmed/why-google-made-the-nsa-2a80584c9c1

And also the news that Google kept secret the fact that they didn't put
up a fight when asked to hand over all the data they had associated with
3 WikiLeaks staff members to the US:

- Search Warrants Against WikiLeaks Staff: Justice Department, Google &
US Media Silence Threaten Press Freedom
https://dissenter.firedoglake.com/2015/01/25/search-warrants-against-wikileaks-staff-justice-department-google-us-media-silence-threaten-press-freedom/
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of course our emails may not be of much interest to the security services, but i'm still unhappy with 900973 intrusive and non-transparent behaviour

rubberdingyrapids
25-01-2017, 12:30 PM
the film Lion is basically one big google earth advert, whether by design or simply faithfulness to the original story.

sufi
18-09-2017, 11:23 AM
& this via DDG (https://duckduckgo.com/)

https://spreadprivacy.com/how-to-remove-google/


Google Search -> DuckDuckGo (free)
Let's start off with the easiest one! Switching to DuckDuckGo not only keeps your searches private but also gives you extra advantages such as our bang shortcuts, handy Instant Answers, and knowing you're not trapped in a filter bubble. (https://spreadprivacy.com/filter-bubble/)

ddg is getting better and better - they now have a UK filter which has improved the results hugely