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mistersloane
28-08-2015, 02:02 AM
http://www.hotnewhiphop.com/prodigy-announces-new-album-the-hegelian-dialectic-news.17258.html

I really hope he takes this to its logical conclusion, and that it's not just a good title for an album.

Like, y'know "the subjective concept of all cognition/is nothing but a syllogism". He could rap the whole thing. It would be rad.

mistersloane
28-08-2015, 03:49 PM
Well, 66 viewers, I thought it was interesting. Fuck you.

griftert
28-08-2015, 06:39 PM
Ahh, yes, absolute idealism finding its apogee in the works of a couple of has-been nineties pop stars is pretty apposite.

CrowleyHead
28-08-2015, 07:16 PM
Hey, it wasn't sloane pulling S.R. style "ITS AMAZING HOW SOMEONE LIKE PRODIGY EMBODIES THIS SORT OF GANGSTER NIHILISM THAT MOREOVER RESEMBLES NIETZSCHE WOULD RATHER TAKE UP HEGEL" weirdness, give him a pat on the back.

griftert
31-08-2015, 03:15 PM
I don't understand that

mistersloane
02-09-2015, 06:17 AM
I didn't get it either, but as I thought Crowley was defending me, I pretended to.

griftert
02-09-2015, 01:04 PM
I took personal offence to it but I don't know why

luka
02-09-2015, 01:07 PM
It's left me perplexed for days, I can't sleep properly. What does it mean?

droid
02-09-2015, 03:09 PM
SR = Simon Reynolds

ITS AMAZING HOW SOMEONE LIKE PRODIGY who EMBODIES a SORT OF GANGSTER NIHILISM which RESEMBLES NIETZSCHE, is more interested in HEGEL

Is my translation fwiw.

luka
02-09-2015, 03:14 PM
LookS like Problem Reaction Solution is what he's interested David icke talks about it,a lot

Slothrop
02-09-2015, 03:30 PM
SR = Simon Reynolds

ITS AMAZING HOW SOMEONE LIKE PRODIGY who EMBODIES a SORT OF GANGSTER NIHILISM which RESEMBLES NIETZSCHE, is more interested in HEGEL

Is my translation fwiw.

So who WAS pulling that style weirdness? And does Sloane really deserve a pat on the back just for not doing it?

rubberdingyrapids
02-09-2015, 05:25 PM
the rational alone is the realness
we be the infamous

Corpsey
02-09-2015, 05:26 PM
Hegel sounds a bit like ''Hey, Girl'', which I hope Prodigy capitalises upon.

I am actually interested in what his take on Hegel will be, especially as I had to read some of Hegel's writing once for a university course and found it almost impenetrably boring.

griftert
02-09-2015, 07:37 PM
The Phenomenology is one of the best books ever. Takes a while to get used to the language but once you know your for-itself from your in-itself you're golden for a weirdo jaunt through time space and every subcategory of philosophical enquiry.

mistersloane
15-09-2015, 02:32 PM
There. That's better. Also I know Hegel's a bit old hat but to call him a has-been is a bit rude.

craner
01-10-2015, 09:55 AM
Infamous documentary.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7tdWsY4KoQ

mistersloane
02-10-2015, 05:39 AM
Thank you that was fun. You know when they say 'you could tell how popular a record was by the amount of fights that broke out in the club', do they mean, actual fights, or do they mean rucking, y'know, exuberant dancing?

craner
02-10-2015, 12:06 PM
Let's ask Crowleyhead.

CrowleyHead
02-10-2015, 01:18 PM
Oh THEY MEAN FIGHTS.

Anecdotal knowledge from my father, but he'll testify that every MOP single pre-"Ante Up" was basically a willful request for dudes to smack each other up in rap shows. Unless it had a Jay-Z verse on it or something.

craner
02-10-2015, 02:41 PM
So what would happen if a Jay-Z verse was on it?

CrowleyHead
02-10-2015, 07:48 PM
So what would happen if a Jay-Z verse was on it?

The sudden influx of Camelgoatentitis would usually deflate the song.

trza
02-10-2015, 08:03 PM
Did Hegel move out of the projects when he was a kid and have his parents send him to performing arts school and take his picture in a ballerina outfit?

mistersloane
03-10-2015, 05:20 AM
Oh THEY MEAN FIGHTS.



I thought they might. Why do they do that? Is it fun fighting, or like, I'm going to shoot you when you get outside fighting? I've been wracking my brains and I don't think I've ever seen this happen at a gig or in a club. Are fights fun in the US?

And I used to go to Meteors gigs.

mistersloane
03-10-2015, 05:22 AM
Did Hegel move out of the projects when he was a kid and have his parents send him to performing arts school and take his picture in a ballerina outfit?

Naw. Hegel never even went out of his bedroom, he was too occupied listening to the Cure and crimping his hair.

luka
03-10-2015, 08:01 AM
Sloane surely you have been at a night where certain records go on and you know the dj was reckless for putting it on? I mean, hiphop has a whole sub genre of inciting mob violence music

mistersloane
04-10-2015, 06:31 AM
Sloane surely you have been at a night where certain records go on and you know the dj was reckless for putting it on? I mean, hiphop has a whole sub genre of inciting mob violence music

I don't think I have Luke, I've seen moshpits and rucks go nuts and stuff but not the same thing as actual fights. I've seen violence but that's not been for musical reasons, no.

craner
04-10-2015, 11:15 PM
I saw Manic Street Preachers in Singleton Park in 1993, the free Heineken Music Festival, when they were very unpopular in Wales and the hordes of Swansea thugs reacted with a shower of glass bottles aimed at their heads. One hit Nicky Wire and he was concussed. The band went off and the festival organisor came on and swore at the crowd before eventually talking the band back on stage. They came back on and immediately played Motorcycle Emptiness at punk rock speed, glass still flying, and Richey pulled a crucifixe pose before diving into the crowd. All around me, fights were breaking out. I was 15 or 16, found it amazingly exciting and rock and roll and expected every gig I went to to be as good. It was a big, long letdown.

mistersloane
07-10-2015, 02:10 PM
That sounds like fun. It's not the same though, eh, as y'know going to the Tunnel and being all like "man if they play quiet storm, god help whoever's next to me cos i mo punch em in da throat"

I think it's a specifically weird American response.

craner
07-10-2015, 09:45 PM
Yeah, in Swansea in 1993, you might have been clobbered, but nobody was going to bring out a gun. It was a bit dicey, but not deadly. I like to tell that story, though, it's an interesting one. I'm not a Manic Street Preachers fan by any means, but that is still the best gig I've ever seen. It's unthinkable that any of the British bands parading around these days could either provoke or deal with such an experience.

craner
07-10-2015, 09:49 PM
It was the peak of their Glam Metal / drag phase, by the way, when they went around spouting Marx and Plath and slagging off Wales.

trza
07-10-2015, 10:26 PM
mobb deep and bagels?

mistersloane
09-10-2015, 04:18 AM
mobb deep and bagels?

featuring the Lox

craner
20-10-2015, 11:50 AM
Is it true that Havoc is an alcoholic?