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qwerty south
03-05-2005, 10:37 AM
is hh in the purest sense a culture for kids by kids?

originaldrum
03-05-2005, 11:42 AM
nah i don't reckon

hint
03-05-2005, 12:30 PM
if you're classing anyone between the ages of 15-25 as a "kid", then I suppose you're right if you want to look at it purely in terms of statistics. the vast majority of those active in the culture would fall in that age category.

but it's certainly no more youth-based than any other kind of popular culture, is it?

gabriel
03-05-2005, 01:00 PM
is hh in the purest sense a culture for kids by kids?


what do you mean by "hip hop in the purest sense"?

puretokyo
03-05-2005, 01:50 PM
Aside, that is, from most major rappers, such as Eminem, Puff Daddy and Jay-Z, all of whom are well into their 30s, along with a vast number of others. Even Juvenile is over 25. Come on, guys, don't lazily label hiphop a young man's game just 'cause they're all thugged out and blinging fresh. Recognise that hiphop has actually become OLD. It is the establishment. It is the status quo. It is a monolithic industry that can longer claim to be 'for us by us' or any such thing. I don't see hiphop as a young man's game at all any more - the only young rapper who has excited me in the last couple of years is Roscoe P Coldchain - who, aside from a superb mixtape about eighteen months ago, has seemingly sunk without a trace... confirm?

Tactics
03-05-2005, 04:47 PM
roscoe ain't young....he's been inside for a bit but is back out and recording his LP in a queue with the Neps for release on Star Trak lol....

qwerty south
03-05-2005, 09:46 PM
look at the ages of many hip hop pioneers when they came to prominence:

rakim (17)
roxanne shante (14)
fat boys (around 16)
etc....

as well as a lot of the planet's kids rocking to the beat on their lino in the 80s.

DavidD
03-05-2005, 09:58 PM
Rappers get into the game pretty young still, J-Kwon was what, 18 when "Tipsy" dropped, not that he's like representative of "most rappers" or something... Young Buck was born in '81 i think. I was born in '83, so he seems young to me.

puretokyo
04-05-2005, 01:34 AM
I was born in '83, so he seems young to me.

Motherfucker stole my line!

And Roscoe is like 22. Has 3 kids I think! That's gangster.

DavidD
04-05-2005, 04:07 AM
Lil Wayne was born in 1982!!! I think he has kids too.

puretokyo
04-05-2005, 10:10 AM
Dre is 40, man. Fuck.

DavidD
04-05-2005, 07:08 PM
Dre was working w the world class wrecking cru when Lil Wayne was born! CRAZEE.