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Corpsey
17-05-2016, 01:54 PM
The original

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXTlBMDZgII

Not bad,

The remix

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wX5PPy670ec

Classic.

Maybe this is because I've just heard the remix so many times without hearing the original but the original doesn't seem in the 'right' key to me at all. They've changed the whole feeling of the words by changing that harmonic emphasis - it becomes this quite melancholic expression of unrequited love.

T minus 10 until I inevitably post the ILL BLU version of Parachutes.

droid
17-05-2016, 01:59 PM
Original:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2s_UjdsMoPk

Remix:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCI_Alt7zcE

One of the best remixes in electronic music history imho.

droid
17-05-2016, 02:06 PM
Original:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vi76bxT7K6U

Remix:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFWnudOKjZA

That entire Mad Professor LP is gold.

sadmanbarty
17-05-2016, 02:45 PM
Great idea for a thread.

I’m being a little liberal with the idea of remix here but:

Tracy Champman- baby can I hold you, very nice if you’re soppy like me, but…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzIE3mRFypQ

combining melancholy with the frantic, almost desperate, aggression of yardtapes and jungle gives it an emotional complexity and richness superior to the original

Red Light- The Burial

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwjHv-meutk

Another redlight remix gem:

Simpleton- Coca Cola Bottle Shape

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eris2a3fPy8

Red Light- Coca Cola

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IY3730J_ATA

Vybz Kartel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W44irMhncMM

Though I couldn’t which one was the best [edit. fuck it, that redlight remix is amazing, better than the original]

droid
17-05-2016, 02:52 PM
This is the one isnt it?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fuDhwGfppE

(Even though its a cover)

sadmanbarty
17-05-2016, 03:04 PM
Myron- We Can Get Down

Quite nice

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jngeXoy8VuE

The groove chronicles remix is heartbreaking

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hOpyAeTSIY

Corpsey
17-05-2016, 04:15 PM
I'm guessing UK garage will win this thread, or at least come out near the top. Garage mixes of tunes are sort of the Antipodes of that radio 1 live lounge genre of cover version where a white indie/pop star tales all the joy and vitality out of an rnb or rap song with an acoustic guitar.

dert
17-05-2016, 06:03 PM
pair of crustaceans

original: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5estZsdX9io

remix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EyG9sxmrZM

original: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhnOTMfjRVM

remix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXabicgC-dk

Sectionfive
17-05-2016, 06:46 PM
This discogs comment (https://www.discogs.com/Sharon-Redd-Can-You-Handle-It-Special-Remixed-Version/release/107493) on the FK mix of Sharon Redd always makes me smile


Once upon a time i was in Scotland and decided to visit the famous little church in Rosslyn. Famous because of its appearance in Dan Brown's book The Da Vinci Code. Many stories are told about this beautiful little church. It is said that the holy grail is buried beneath it. Another story tells the tale of one of the fourteen pillars where Rosslyn Chapel stands on. A pillar standing out in beauty from all the others. The three pillars at the east end of the chapel are named, the Master Pillar, the Journeyman Pillar, and most famously, the Apprentice Pillar. Its name comes from a legend dating from the 18th century involving the master mason in charge of the stonework in the chapel and his young apprentice. According to the legend, the master mason did not believe that the apprentice could perform the complicated task of carving the column without seeing the original which formed the inspiration for the design. The master mason travelled to Rome to see the original himself, but upon his return was enraged to find that the upstart apprentice had completed the column anyway. In a fit of jealous anger the mason took up his mallet and struck the apprentice on the head, killing him. The legend concludes that as punishment for his crime, the master mason's face was carved into the opposite corner to forever gaze upon his apprentice's pillar. So, what's the point of making a Special Remix? To make it better than it was before. Right? Why do so few succeed in that? There is only one man i know who made every mix better than it was before and that's Larry Levan. A true wizard and master. And then there was the apprentice Francois Kevorkian, who made this mix. A jewel. Four minutes of only intro. Sharon who starts singing, chanting along with the guitar, after those lovely four minutes. All the instruments coming together in one perfect blend of bliss including the awesome lyrics. Do you really think you can .... uhhhh .... Handle IT? I've bought this record in 1981 and 30 years later i like it as much as in the beginning. I never get tired of it. I do not know one song where the remix is so much better than the original. Not a bit better, way better! Seek no more, you've found the holy grail.

trza
17-05-2016, 10:08 PM
I did a google search for Flava in Ya Ear remix, and found an article about Craig Mack being remixed leading to teh whole Bad Boy P Diddy Biggie empire.....

sadmanbarty
18-05-2016, 03:26 PM
Golly Gosh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8sM3Zg8h-8

Mr Fidget Remix

https://pro.beatport.com/track/golly-gosh-mr-fidget-remix-original-mix/4627066

Corpsey
18-05-2016, 04:26 PM
This is the original of Show Me Love, from 1990, Not bad, but bland.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzXirtCj5mo

And you know what happened next, in 1993

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7X3YpXiI5dM

Stone cold classic, persistently inferiorly remixed to this very day.

Again, the difference made by the switch in mood in the instrumental, the hardening of it, makes her sound more resolute, more determined... Reckon this was influenced by this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIcPawP_0KM

Any excuse to post this, one of those 'so good I could cry' tunes *lighter*

Corpsey
18-05-2016, 04:38 PM
I promised, so I shall

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGoKle0l8ik

Original is a lame duck. This is a proud peacock.

Corpsey
18-05-2016, 04:40 PM
Ill Blu should be on stamps in this country.

Corpsey
18-05-2016, 07:25 PM
This one might be controversial, but I think the J Dilla remix of D'angelo's 'Dreaming Eyes' is flat-out sublime.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzu8YSxSJjI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWjBNz_qh-U

And continuing on the same theme, one of my friends swears the original 'Eve' is better than Dilla's remix, but he's deeply misguided and wrong

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0kNW_tsSoM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LX7nw4LsYNQ

Echoing barty's sentiments re: myron upthread, this renders something that was quite affecting completely beautiful. Also, continuing the general theme of my selections, it toughens it right up simultaneously. I DEMAND TOUGHNESS AND BEAUTY.

Corpsey
18-05-2016, 07:28 PM
You know what, though, listening back to 'Loveshy' I reckon a lot of people prefer that version cos its got proper 2-step beats and is much more strident. Perhaps the tuff jam rmx strikes others as saccharine.

NOT ME THOUGH, I LOVE IT

craner
18-05-2016, 08:40 PM
I think the original single version of Mariah Carey's 'Fantasy' is much better than the remix feat. ODB, but I realise that is probably a minority opinion.

Benny B
18-05-2016, 09:17 PM
Reckon groove chronicles remix of telefunkin is an even more sublime transformation than the myron one tbh.
There must be tons of shit-into-gold todd edwards remixes too that i cant think of right now.

craner
18-05-2016, 09:27 PM
Todd Edwards just used to build his own thing, though, a bit like the Jesus Jones/Aphex remix Droid linked above. Would you even recognise them?

trza
18-05-2016, 09:28 PM
really disappointed by lack of "worst" remix contributions here. for a best/worst thread.

Corpsey
18-05-2016, 09:29 PM
Me too!

I can't think of any off the top of my head.

craner
18-05-2016, 09:30 PM
I just gave you one!

craner
18-05-2016, 09:45 PM
Sucked all the energy and melody out of the original, and stuck on a phoned-in ODB doodle. Everyone was like, brilliant! But, no. If not the worst, certainly the most over-rated remix of my lifetime.

Sectionfive
19-05-2016, 01:40 AM
"like babies and pacifiers", lol

Groove Chronicles reworking her intro vocal from that into 'natural' is lush tho

CrowleyHead
19-05-2016, 02:27 AM
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Benny B
19-05-2016, 10:16 AM
really disappointed by lack of "worst" remix contributions here. for a best/worst thread.

I kinda thought the idea was to pick great remixes of shitty songs.


This one started out as a decent keith sweat-produced slow jam
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ry6XUsow4Vg

pointless cover version (i always associate it with the ali g film)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3qDESAvzh0

chris mack's slinky mini-masterpiece
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGby1V5G9Yo

aaah...thats better

Corpsey
19-05-2016, 10:34 AM
I think it's amazing when a great remix is made out of an average/shit song, but this is a broad church of a thread encompassing terrible remixes (which are funnier than good ones) and remixes in general.

Are remixes of pop songs still a thing? Obviously in the 90s singles were often released with two or three remixes included.

MK's original burning, a minor house classic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TdKm2CQbuo

Route 94's remix, a steroidal monster

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rU6p_-m1VYU

Corpsey
19-05-2016, 10:36 AM
I always rated Another Level slightly higher than I would have cos of Freak Me

They just got knocked down a peg though

Sectionfive
22-05-2016, 11:03 PM
Danes Bowers' crooning wasn't a whole lot of distance from the Robbie Craig stuff Gurley made so well. The Anthill Mob remix of Be Alone No More is pretty good and probably the most 'cartoon' of all the AM tracks. There is a cringe bit at the end of Channel 4's Pump Up The Volume documentary when garage makes a very brief appearance and somehow Bowers ended up as spokesman for the scene

sadmanbarty
23-05-2016, 10:32 AM
Phil Collins- In The Air

Nice melody, clever arrangement (it's surprisingly arty given how popular it is). Overall a great song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkADj0TPrJA

DJ Screw remix

Both the production and the vocals are a bit tinny and thin on the original. This mix gives them more warmth and in doing so, gives it a bit more of an oceanic feel. Slowed down you also get to hear more of the sounds and how they are treated. The sense of scope, both sonically and emotionally, is widened by this mix.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnweKclCLRk

Corpsey
23-05-2016, 11:08 AM
The original Broken Heart is so forgettable it's not even worth remembering. So let's stick to the Martyn RMX, which in my less cynical days counted as a real tear-jerker:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2ZjWiKQqV4

This came up on a Quietus list of the best dance remixes ever http://thequietus.com/articles/14221-best-dance-remixes

And reading this, by Rory Gibb (a good writer, incidentally), reminded me of how completely subjective music is, and particularly how subjective writing about instrumental music is:

"Sleek digital soul for glassy future cityscapes"

I never heard this tune as remotely 'sleek' or 'digital'. In fact, I always felt the samples had a sort of analogue grain to them that you don't find in a lot of soft-synth music these days. Never conjured visions of 'glassy future cityscapes' either.

This is why, to this day, I can't write about dance music. I feel you end up projecting your metaphoric language onto instrumental music which really can't be explained, only heard. Even Reynolds does this, though he does it peculiarly well.

I probably continue to do this when writing about rap music. It's a constant temptation.

Corpsey
23-05-2016, 11:09 AM
As a matter of fact, I'm sure I've written something exceedingly poncy about Broken Heart on one of my blogs. I shall try and find it.

sadmanbarty
23-05-2016, 11:56 AM
This is why, to this day, I can't write about dance music. I feel you end up projecting your metaphoric language onto instrumental music which really can't be explained, only heard. Even Reynolds does this, though he does it peculiarly well.

I probably continue to do this when writing about rap music. It's a constant temptation.

It sounds like you're working on the assumption that the lyrics to a song give the correct impression of what the music itself feels like (otherwise you'd be in the exact same spot with rap reviews). I don't really pay much attention to lyrics, but when I do I mostly find a huge discrepancy between the subject matter of the words and my emotional response to the music.

Anything emotional expressed with words is going to be trite in comparison to what can be evoked with melody, harmony, rhythm and timbre. This is compounded by the fact that what an artist has to say has to conform rhythmically and to a rhyme scheme.

Of course that's not to say instrumental music is better than music with words, or even that those words aren't important (insofar as their phonetic qualities are also timbral). But I think any lyricist is essentially "projecting [their] metaphoric language onto... music which really can't be explained, only heard".

In other words, fuck it, review some dance music.

Corpsey
23-05-2016, 12:14 PM
Well, of course, writing about rap music is almost equally contrived. Most people, including me, listen to rap music (like all music) instinctively, without an analytic care in the world. It's only when you write about it that you start to try and explain 'why' you like it or not. TBH music criticism - both the reading and writing of - has ruined music for me a bit.

CrowleyHead
24-05-2016, 12:57 PM
Sucks for you :p

I do find it funny that the expectation is to analyze WHY YOU LIKE IT. I mean, things are designed to be interesting and we're drawn to them, there's nothing remarkable about that, people have been fixating on the most random shit for forever. The trick is trying to comprehend what it does on its own, how it functions, etc.

But that's just me, I have billions of things where I like this, that and the third and the expectation is to 'justify ones taste'.

luka
24-05-2016, 01:38 PM
What about that nice Bobby Brown one? The dancey one.

Corpsey
24-05-2016, 01:47 PM
I feel you might be satirising my entire thread but many a true thing was said in jest

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyXqqfijQUc

This was my introduction to Bobby Brown as a yoot. I also was a big fan of the Humping Around remix.

CrowleyHead
24-05-2016, 05:10 PM
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Corpsey
25-05-2016, 11:17 AM
This is probably stretching the definition of remix somewhat but

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zM0KAh5w7Rs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8rGpHqM_q4

Sectionfive
27-05-2016, 04:47 PM
Trance in the 90s was sort of odd how all the big tunes that eventually ended up on a million compilation CDs around 98 started life as different tunes in the earlier part of the decade. Almost the majority of successful tunes were remixes and then once the money was rolling in were again 'updated' by either the original producer or remixed every two years as styles and tastes moved on.

Like Energy 52 - Cafe del mar started in 1993 before moving out of the techno realm into the big Dutch sound before going prog after the millennium and then eventually Deadmau5 and Villalobos getting a go a recent times :slanted: All completely commercial driven in a way that doesn't really happen with such frequency in any other genre other than oddly, reggae. You would be more likely to get bottled off the decks for this carry on in any other scene.

http://i.imgur.com/yOBOESC.png

dert
27-05-2016, 07:02 PM
got any favorite trance remixes sectionfive?