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Woebot
20-05-2016, 01:48 PM
c'mon you beautiful bastards.

tell me what your fave ten long-players of this decade are.

sadmanbarty
20-05-2016, 03:45 PM
My knowledge of Hip Hop after about 1998 is minimal. It was only after hearing Young Thug last year that I got interested in newer stuff and I have been backtracking from there. So I’ll post this with the caveat that it is a top 10 by and for the rap non-fan.

In no particular order:

1017 Thug

Yeezus

Ds2

Danny Brown- xxx

Azealia Banks- Fantasea

Narf- Sick

Father- Who’s Gonna Get Fucked First

Viper- Yo Side Thang & Main Thang Holdin’ Me

Black Kray- Soulja Luv Rari World

M.B.E- Have A Party

[edit . 3 edits in as many days. 1017 replaced barter 6, Fantsea replaced earl sweatshirt earl and MBE replaced death grips- money store]

Corpsey
20-05-2016, 04:27 PM
Something like:

waka flocka flame - FLOCKAVELI (it should be written in capitals)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsCCs8u8cnk

kendrick lamar - Overly Dedicated

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amAS6VKeq-U

roc marciano - reloaded

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e89zrAn_Wus

danny brown - XXX

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZkQNqr-7z0

curren$y - pilot talk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pmr6beDXyf0

rick ross - rich forever

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3WnmhbL_fY

future: monster

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYNowOUBqpQ

chief keef - back from the dead

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-xLk4yVL-M

juicy j - rubba band business 2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APsTLlGaWSc

rich gang - the tour vol 1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_X_J7sofdXU

Corpsey
20-05-2016, 04:33 PM
Feel bad not including MBDTF by Kanye but I've never been that into it. Keep seeing it getting praised though so i probably should revisit.

Woebot
21-05-2016, 07:10 AM
@sadmanbarty @corpsey. thanks very much indeed.

rubberdingyrapids
21-05-2016, 11:25 AM
chief keef - back from the dead 2 (the rapping isnt what you would call 'great' but hes got personality, and hes one of the most interesting producers around right now IMO, i wish he produced more)
dj quik and kurupt - blaqkout (spacey, west coast funk rap)
YG - my krazy life (basically a document of the mustard sound, and an update of traditional west coast rap)
vince staples - summertime
earl sweatshirt - earl (i like this and the vince staples one just as displays of brilliant, characterful rapping, even john cale likes earl)
future - ds2 (never been that sold on future, but this is his best album i think, simply as hes not being that mopey, and and the beats are truly monstrous)
telemachus - in the evening (this is a british producer, the songs with rappers on here arent great, but if you delete them, the album becomes an excellent modern trip hop-ish instrumental set)
young thug - 1017 thug (this is still his best release IMO, just cos IMO its the only one where the production consistently matches what he does as a rapper)
kanye - yeezus

Woebot
21-05-2016, 09:08 PM
chief keef - back from the dead 2 (the rapping isnt what you would call 'great' but hes got personality, and hes one of the most interesting producers around right now IMO, i wish he produced more)
dj quik and kurupt - blaqkout (spacey, west coast funk rap)
YG - my krazy life (basically a document of the mustard sound, and an update of traditional west coast rap)
vince staples - summertime
earl sweatshirt - earl (i like this and the vince staples one just as displays of brilliant, characterful rapping, even john cale likes earl)
future - ds2 (never been that sold on future, but this is his best album i think, simply as hes not being that mopey, and and the beats are truly monstrous)
telemachus - in the evening (this is a british producer, the songs with rappers on here arent great, but if you delete them, the album becomes an excellent modern trip hop-ish instrumental set)
young thug - 1017 thug (this is still his best release IMO, just cos IMO its the only one where the production consistently matches what he does as a rapper)
kanye - yeezus

thanks very much rdr. duly noted.

mucho maas
26-05-2016, 11:31 PM
Um, no Kendrick chaps? Surely an oversight...

Not got the energy to whittle a full list, but a few I'd include:

Heems- Eat Pray Thug
Big K.R.I.T.- Cadillactica
Fat Trel- SDMG
J Cole- Born Sinner

rubberdingyrapids
27-05-2016, 10:27 AM
i didnt include the kendrick cos it seemed obvious.

the new chance the rapper i would include too.

Corpsey
27-05-2016, 10:34 AM
I included 'O.D' because that's my favourite of the Kendrick projects I've heard, but realistically 'Good Kid Maad City', 'Section 80' and 'To Pimp a Butterfly' would all be in with a shout. He's made at least four highly cohesive, challenging and often beautiful LPs. Actually, counting 'Untitled/Unmastered', 5!

mucho maas
27-05-2016, 06:01 PM
Ah, missed that- scrolled right on by! Yeah, this really could be Top-Ten-Not-Made-By-Kdot. Couple more:

Travis Porter- S.A.Q.
Shabazz Palaces- Lese Majesty
Freddie Gibbs/Madlib- Piņata (perhaps a hip/obvious choice, but probably my favourite of the lot)

Corpsey
27-05-2016, 11:45 PM
I should revisit Piņata. I like Madlib and I don't really like Freddie Gibbs much aside from 'Still Livin''. I mean, I think he's a very decent paper, but I am not grabbed by his voice all that much.

trza
28-05-2016, 12:19 AM
surprised nobody has mentioned illmatic or pauls boutique or 36 chambers yet.

rubberdingyrapids
28-05-2016, 07:48 AM
i totally forgot shabazz palaces' black up. thats a definite contender. i wasnt that into lese majesty.

Woebot
28-05-2016, 03:23 PM
surprised nobody has mentioned illmatic or pauls boutique or 36 chambers yet.

this is since 2010 - it's a thread for geriatric cunts like me tzra.

CrowleyHead
29-05-2016, 04:34 PM
Tree - Sunday School
Future - True Story
Chief Keef - Bang 2
YG - My Krazy Life
Tyler, The Creator - Wolf
Young Thug - I Came From Nothing 2
Gucci Mane - The Movie Pt. 3: The Brrrprint
Waka Flocka Flame - Flockavelli
Danny Brown - XXX
YFN Lucci - Wish Me Well

Corpsey
29-05-2016, 10:13 PM
Forgot about 'Sunday School'!

Would have included Burrprint 3D but I believe it was released 2009? As were all Gucci's classic tapes (same goes for Max B).

Will seek out some of those others.

mistersloane
30-05-2016, 05:09 AM
LD, Monkey and Dimzy's "6.7" is the best of the Brixton Drill stuff I think so far :

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Young Thug : Barter 6

Earl Sweatshirt : I don't like shit, I don't go outside

The first two songs off of Lese Majesty by Shabazz Palaces are fantastic, super super super mushroom trippy, especially the way they segue into each other. Rest is meh but worth it for those two.

CasIsDead's "Commercial 2" mixtape is wonderful, Cas rapping over dreamy dated electro house.

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Chief Keef's Bang 3 wasn't released in this form but someone compiled an imaginary version of it here, which I really like.

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I loved Lil Reese's Supa Savage 2, it's just super solid, and is probably my most played thing on this list bar the Thug.

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mistersloane
30-05-2016, 05:11 AM
That Father album that Barty mentioned is really, really good too.

sadmanbarty
30-05-2016, 10:03 AM
That Father album that Barty mentioned is really, really good too.

Have you heard I'm A Piece of Shit? What did you think?

CrowleyHead
30-05-2016, 02:17 PM
Forgot about 'Sunday School'!

Would have included Burrprint 3D but I believe it was released 2009? As were all Gucci's classic tapes (same goes for Max B).

Will seek out some of those others.

I'll bleed it over as I feel like that's the peak of Gucci and it needs to be counted over his more questionable 10s material.

Corpsey
30-05-2016, 02:28 PM
Speaking of which, this is a really good oral history of Gucci's rise/fall/rise from The Fader: http://www.thefader.com/2015/10/01/gucci-mane-oral-history-hard-to-kill

mistersloane
31-05-2016, 04:30 AM
Have you heard I'm A Piece of Shit? What did you think?

Yeah, only tracks I really like are Big Emblem Benz and Hurt Like This, don't like the music on the rest of it enough to give it time, unfortunately.

Just checked out that Viper you posted, it's wonderful.

sadmanbarty
31-05-2016, 09:24 AM
Just checked out that Viper you posted, it's wonderful.

You might also like Hiram Clarke Hustler and You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack.

rubberdingyrapids
31-05-2016, 10:31 AM
who has time to listen to all these, never mind the patience for an actual whole wiz khalifa album? whenever i see these 'NINE ALBUMS OUT TODAY THAT YOU NEED TO HEAR' sort of things on p4k, im like, who has the time?! id stick with singles if i were mr bot.

Corpsey
31-05-2016, 10:56 AM
I have had to listen to a whole Wiz Kalifah tape in order to review it, and I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy.

You do get some great mixtapes/albums but I definitely think that these days singles are a more 'relevant' index of rap music than albums are. Mind you, it's hard enough picking 10 mixtapes/albums, let alone 10 singles!

Woebot
31-05-2016, 12:42 PM
who has time to listen to all these, never mind the patience for an actual whole wiz khalifa album? whenever i see these 'NINE ALBUMS OUT TODAY THAT YOU NEED TO HEAR' sort of things on p4k, im like, who has the time?! id stick with singles if i were mr bot.

point taken. enjoying this though. have picked up cds by danny brown, future, asap money, vince staples, rich gang, kendrick lamarr, yg, rick ross and earl sweatshirt.

a few years back i compiled these from that nozinsky blokes singles lists and was really underwhelmed by the whole singles thing - maybe he just has weak taste?

https://open.spotify.com/user/woebot/playlist/2xmjfWq2cr5iBdsP8phS1N
https://open.spotify.com/user/woebot/playlist/4446qDzbGnvMRn2Wn1UsdJ
https://open.spotify.com/user/woebot/playlist/65OeAN0rCz6BkrfUSRlP9S

rubberdingyrapids
31-05-2016, 01:16 PM
noz' has good taste, or seems to, but yeah i find his lists a bit underwhelming too. i think he picks a lot of album tracks rather than singles on those end of year round ups he does?

mistersloane
31-05-2016, 03:43 PM
You might also like Hiram Clarke Hustler and You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack.

Great, thanks for the tips man, his catalogue was so immense that I didn't bother and what I came across I wasn't into, but I really like the Yo Side Thang one. Will look those others out, thanks.

Apropos of nothing, this beat, on a loop, forever :

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CrowleyHead
31-05-2016, 05:14 PM
Noz's lists usually aren't based around singles all the time, just what he's looking for specifically in rap from certain people. So For example, I know one year he had "Gucci Gucci" by Kreayshawn on it the same year he had DJ Quik "Ghetto Rendezvous" and E-40 "My Little Grimey N***A" which aren't great singles by any means, but kind of good showcases for the rapper at what he considers their best (in Quik's case, incredibly petty battle raps aimed at members of his family or former friends and in E-40's case, weird ultraspecific detailed 'panoramic' storytelling, though without a clear beginning/end structure like say a "Children's Story".)

I've done lists kind of like that too, and its weird to rate one thing over another, but like when I think about it I'm rating "is this beat interesting, is there something going on lyrically, is there a unique quality to the song I don't find very common" So like, Rich Homie Quan making a song about dealing with his father being shot is def. that characteristic, but Famous Dex rapping about being the man isn't. Doesn't mean that the former's the better single either!

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/RwlfUS6kLkk" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

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Edit: also if I'm out here alluding to lists, I should link them.

http://lyingaboutazaleas.tumblr.com/post/135667032180/rap-end-of-the-year-2015
http://lyingaboutazaleas.tumblr.com/post/106069171955/rap-end-of-the-year-2014

sadmanbarty
31-05-2016, 05:35 PM
Great, thanks for the tips man, his catalogue was so immense that I didn't bother and what I came across I wasn't into, but I really like the Yo Side Thang one. Will look those others out, thanks.


I think he's considered a bit of the joke on the internet, something which he's embraced. He does stunts like releasing hundreds of albums a year of poor music, obscuring his genuinely creative and interesting efforts.

Woebot
31-05-2016, 05:44 PM
Noz's lists usually aren't based around singles all the time, just what he's looking for specifically in rap from certain people.

hm. well when it comes to year-end things i guess i'd rather people went by the K.I.S.S. maxim.

in fact - not keeping it simple seems like a standard route for journalism in hip hop. journalists flatter themselves that they're *krazy wordsmiths* like the rappers.

i suppose that bloke dave tompkins is the classic case in point.i can't understand a word he's on about. surely in music journalism - clarity, honesty and good taste is what you want?

mistersloane
31-05-2016, 06:20 PM
t bloke dave tompkins is the classic case in point.i can't understand a word he's on about. surely in music journalism - clarity, honesty and good taste is what you want?

At the moment, in music journalism, I'd want people with knowledge of the software, knowledge of the equipment. I want people who can identify what is being used, and why, and talk about it.

CrowleyHead
01-06-2016, 12:29 PM
surely in music journalism - clarity, honesty and good taste is what you want?

You say that, but I literally have had a friend sending me choice quotes from Energy Flash where Simon is being obtuse with imagery or referendum. Almost every music journalist is a failed/nascent writer of *other subjects* living their future through this current medium. I bring up Simon b/c him and Tompkins are both obviously huge teen Science Fiction nerds and they reflect that approach in their descriptors, Tompkins just tends to be much more bewildering.

But I think the balance between taste and singles is not always easy to strike. A good rapper is making a ton of great songs on projects, be they tapes or albums, but depending on where their career is the fans might dictate a poor single, or management, or maybe they're terrible at singles. Noz is a huge fan of Starlito, who has made great densely interpersonal projects, but whenever he tries to go for a "BIG RAP SINGLE" almost always strikes out. By that right, do you discount the artist's year if they made a bunch of shit singles but they still were really productive?

Corpsey
01-06-2016, 12:41 PM
Apropos of no thing: Starlito was a fan of my review of his album, albeit justifiably annoyed by me implying that he hoovers any drugs he can get hold of up his nose. Still, proudest moment of my undistinguished career in freelance journalism. :)

rubberdingyrapids
01-06-2016, 01:48 PM
At the moment, in music journalism, I'd want people with knowledge of the software, knowledge of the equipment. I want people who can identify what is being used, and why, and talk about it.


*insert danny glover gif*

i realised recently how behind i am with knowledge of modern music software.
does anyone still use fruity? logic? what do people use now? if i wanted to make beats like hud mo (and get on kanyes albums), WTF would i be using?

Corpsey
01-06-2016, 02:47 PM
http://www.thediscdjstore.com/native-instruments-maschine-mk2-black-custom-kit.html?gclid=Cj0KEQjwj7q6BRDcxfG4pNTQ2NoBEiQAzUp uWxgX8vMdINqpgsgbSpK4D5tj7f9-DGvTsM54tMpaY2oaAqRN8P8HAQ

One of these

I wanna get back into producing soon, somebody throw me a cracked copy of Reason pleeeease

rubberdingyrapids
01-06-2016, 08:13 PM
so tempting. :mad:

mistersloane
02-06-2016, 07:55 AM
*insert danny glover gif*

i realised recently how behind i am with knowledge of modern music software.
does anyone still use fruity? logic? what do people use now? if i wanted to make beats like hud mo (and get on kanyes albums), WTF would i be using?

Frooty still used alot I think, for trap beats. Ableton & Logic still, and like Corpsey said.

Corpsey
02-06-2016, 09:02 AM
I think actual synths are still the ideal. Not even cos they supposedly sound better, but because they're more fun to play with. Who wants to move shit around on a screen when you can excitedly jab at a keyboard?

Corpsey
02-06-2016, 10:34 AM
Woebot, here is a Spotify list I made of the Martorialist's best tracks of 2015.

https://open.spotify.com/user/11180051859/playlist/4aCBCVkXtyDBFaTcfblSp0

Woebot
05-06-2016, 09:35 AM
Woebot, here is a Spotify list I made of the Martorialist's best tracks of 2015.

https://open.spotify.com/user/11180051859/playlist/4aCBCVkXtyDBFaTcfblSp0

helpful corpsey thanks

Corpsey
06-06-2016, 09:29 AM
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLFuVuN1-HBte584LomrzJp-Em-vvMyo7S

This is even more useful/relevant - Martorialist best of 2010-2015!

Good thing I'm a martorialist Stan, really.

A lot of those videos have gone so here's the original post it's based on: http://themartorialist.blogspot.co.uk/2015/05/generic-list-post-100-great-rap-songs_7.html

claphands
17-06-2016, 01:29 AM
Main Attrakionz - 808s & Dark Grapes II
Waka Flocka Flame - Flockaveli
Roc Marciano - Marcberg
Young Thug - Barter 6
Run the Jewels - Run the Jewels
Gucci Mane - Trap House 3
Lil B - I'm Gay
100s - IVRY
Future - DS2



also drake, juicy j (blue dream and lean in particular), schoolboy q, more future, more young thug, more killer mike related things, more gucci, more lil b, more green ova related things

sadmanbarty
24-03-2017, 01:36 PM
I've seen the errors in my ways, so here's a better (and far less embarrassing) list.

Future- 56 Nights

Young Thug- Slime Season 2, 1017 Thug

Rae Sremmurd- Ear Drummers

Mike Will Made It- Ransom

Don Mega & Waka Flocka Flame- Dreads n Golds

M.B.E- Have A Party

WebEschatology
24-03-2017, 05:03 PM
i can't believe somebody acutally posted Viper in here

Ka - Grief Pedigree

Roc Marciano - Reloaded

DJ Quik - The Book of David

Future - Honest

Danny Brown - XXX

Armand Hammer - Race Music

Billy Woods - History Will Absolve Me

Young Thug - Barter 6

Open Mike Eagle - Rappers Will Die of Natural Causes

Tree - Sunday School 2

there's alot of stuff (mainly mixtapes) i remember liking that Gangsta Boo & Beatking tape alot but there's alot i don't remember

not gonna talk like i'm big into Heems but me personally i was more into Nehru Jackets