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dert
02-06-2016, 05:26 PM
does anyone listen to him? he's not very well known in america but seems to be a seminal figure in some ways. I'm wondering what the general impression of his music is on this board

sadmanbarty
02-06-2016, 05:40 PM
I like his stuff a lot.

I tend to listen to his more idiomatic stuff (Mirakle and Guitar, Drums n Bass) in the same way I'd listen to other, more conventional music in those idioms.

With the pure free improvisation stuff, I tend to enjoy it in the same way as ambient music, drone, noise, etc. So I'd use it as background music while I'm doing something else. The ambient connection is particularly applicable with his solo stuff, which can be quite soothing and serene (though it can be very abrasive as well).

Leo
02-06-2016, 05:44 PM
when he was alive, the wire would write about him in every damn issue because he released a lot of records and did lots of gigs. he's well respected in the improv community, his recordings tend to lack any studio production enhancement.

he did a lot of collaborations, including one where he jammed over some drum'n bass (https://www.discogs.com/Derek-Bailey-Guitar-Drums-N-Bass/release/226315). great idea but kind of boring execution, should have worked with a better d'nb producer.

also recall one live album that includes the sound of a rain storm outside that happened during the performance.

since improv isn't really my thing, i only dabbled in a few of his records just to try and understand what he was about. interesting stuff (his "ballads" cd of covers on john zorn's tzadik label is probably the most "structured"), but not something i pull off the shelf very often.

CrowleyHead
02-06-2016, 09:13 PM
he did a lot of collaborations, including one where he jammed over some drum'n bass (https://www.discogs.com/Derek-Bailey-Guitar-Drums-N-Bass/release/226315). great idea but kind of boring execution, should have worked with a better d'nb producer.

Yeah, I read an interview with him and he said exactly that. Apparently he was practicing while listening to pirates in his area, and wanted to just have him playing to the radio as an album, but the label balked at that idea. Might've been interesting for sure.

john eden
02-06-2016, 11:24 PM
I regret not seeing him as I wasn't into this stuff until after he died.

The Ben Watson biog is mainly great

What is even better is the four part TV series Bailey did on improvised music around the world. I think it's on Vimeo.

Not got a lot of his stuff tho.

subvert47
08-06-2016, 07:02 PM
I liked his idiosyncratic style best as part of a power trio:

Derek Bailey, Jamaaladeen Tacuma & Calvin Weston - Mirakle
Derek Bailey & Ruins - Saisoro / Tohjinbo

though these more improv orientated trios are worth checking as well:

Derek Bailey, Kent Carter & John Stevens - One Time
Derek Bailey, Pat Thomas & Steve Noble - And

:)