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Corpsey
13-01-2017, 11:00 AM
Last time I tried this it was a disaster (Trim and James Blake), but everyone likes Wiley don't they?

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http://www.thefader.com/2017/01/12/wiley-the-godfather-interview

https://noisey.vice.com/en_uk/article/ice-caps-melt-the-big-wiley-interview

Corpsey
13-01-2017, 11:48 AM
First 5 tracks are all good, especially like 'Back with a Banger' produced by Preditah.

CrowleyHead
13-01-2017, 03:22 PM
*sees thread* *sees Corpse saying a song with Devlin on it can be listenable* *leaves thread*

Corpsey
13-01-2017, 04:20 PM
I was surprised that Devlin was on this cos I'm pretty sure he called Wiley a paedophile at one point. He is a bit shit, can't stay on the beat...

Look let's not get distracted there are some bangers on this primarily BACK WITH A BANGA.

WebEschatology
15-01-2017, 07:46 PM
was nice to hear J2K on the mic even if he weirdly sounded like P Money imo

also i've always got love for Jamakabi and Prez T

Glacial 718
15-01-2017, 11:34 PM
it's good, one of the better AAA grime albums since the "grime revival" (and I say that thinking all those albums have been pretty good)

this promo freestyle he did for it is great, got the tunnel vision feel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emNNgX2NY_Q

rubberdingyrapids
16-01-2017, 12:24 PM
i find wiley tiring for a whole album, but im interested to see how his book comes out.

Corpsey
16-01-2017, 01:06 PM
Yeah that is a problem, every track is high energy, exact same flow, does get tiring fairly quickly. Optimum grime conditions = multiple MCs passing the mic every 16/32 bars IMO

rubberdingyrapids
16-01-2017, 01:45 PM
since he lost that bounce he had in the early days, hes a bit of a exhaustingly gruff vocal presence, always sounds like hes hectoring almost

wiley also has the issue of sounding bored with what hes doing

like he could always be doing something else

im sure some of that is just part of the wiley persona (im too big for this/you etc) but it can seem unenjoyable

mistersloane
16-01-2017, 02:22 PM
I liked the last Trim stuff alot. Even if he didn't.

muser
18-01-2017, 12:25 PM
can anyone tell me what that laptop track is sampling or copying the melody from, I feel its really obvious and should know it.

hint
18-01-2017, 01:02 PM
can anyone tell me what that laptop track is sampling or copying the melody from, I feel its really obvious and should know it.

It's very close to On by Aphex

Corpsey
18-01-2017, 01:44 PM
'my laptop's part of my brain / since i had one i ain't never been the same'

AMEN

muser
20-01-2017, 02:10 PM
It's very close to On by Aphex

funny I was thinking aphex or something like that, its close..

soul_pill
22-01-2017, 06:58 AM
funny I was thinking aphex or something like that, its close..

nexus 21 (pre-altern 8) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZvDH-BhwXY

muser
23-01-2017, 02:59 AM
yes!

rubberdingyrapids
24-01-2017, 07:47 AM
wiley makes the guardian long read

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2017/jan/24/wiley-godfather-grime

Corpsey
24-01-2017, 02:40 PM
Enjoying working my rage up by perusing the BTL comments. 'People are just pretending to like grime', 'There's just no musical talent anymore', 'Grime is just hip-hop', etc. GUARDIAN READERS Y'ALL.

luka
24-01-2017, 02:51 PM
jacklawuk???

Corpsey
24-01-2017, 02:53 PM
YUP

luka
24-01-2017, 03:04 PM
Professor Green. Wipes the floor with this tool.

Corpsey
24-01-2017, 03:08 PM
People who like grime are just trying to impress people on the estates, for some reason, unlike Hip Hop, which spoke to the middle class English DJ Format fan.

Blackalicious, now that's REAL rap.

rubberdingyrapids
24-01-2017, 03:19 PM
People who like grime are just trying to impress people on the estates, for some reason, unlike Hip Hop, which spoke to the middle class English DJ Format fan.

Blackalicious, now that's REAL rap.

please tell me thats a real comment.

i like this album. its weird though hearing wiley basically rap on versions of old beats of his.

Corpsey
24-01-2017, 03:27 PM
Not a real comment but could easily pass for one.

luka
24-01-2017, 07:21 PM
tell u what though the guardian pick is a belter ;)

Corpsey
24-01-2017, 07:49 PM
What was their pick?

'Tough on the causes of grime'?

'6 music listening wankers' was one of the most OTM comments I saw.

luka
24-01-2017, 07:58 PM
wiley didnt appear out of nowhere. there were precursors and contemporaries all of whom deserve a mention. But at the same time if you can only see the continuity and not the ruptures you're only getting half the picture. Even when I first heard Wiley (with Riko) in '98/'99 on a drum and bass station i was shocked. It was different. Not so much in terms of form but because of what they were saying. From there I knew things had changed and all traces of rave utopianism were dead.

Speaking musically I'd identify two ruptures. One was eskimo, which sounded like a bolt out of the blue and nothing like the sublow and 8 bar that came before it even if it took cues from the spartan, hard edged architecture of those early tunes (and things like the4x4 Harry Lime stuff) and one was wiley and dizzee clashing so soild on choice. Straight away so solid seemed old hat. They were still doing the 'garage voice' grindah parodies on people just do nothing.

Eskimo, and other tunes out that camp (the Danny Weed stuff for example) have an off kilter, staggered quality you dont find in breaks or anything that had come out of garage. The devil mixes took the experimentalism even further. Wiley's bass sound was unique and had zomby doing piss poor impersonations of it 10 years after the fact.

baboon2004
25-01-2017, 08:36 PM
I saw your classic argument about Jon E Cash. That guy, eh, what was he talking about?

Ex-Dissensian wrote the article, current Dissensian got the guardian pick. Bossing it.

luka
25-01-2017, 08:42 PM
I saw your classic argument about Jon E Cash. That guy, eh, what was he talking about?

Ex-Dissensian wrote the article, current Dissensian got the guardian pick. Bossing it.

Commenting on the Guardian is my worst habit but you do come across some freaks on there. Best argument I had was with an older lad from Norwich who swore blind he was at snoop's first UK concert and was literally the only white person there and was menaced by London gang members all night long.

luka
25-01-2017, 08:43 PM
What choo doing here milkdrop?

Corpsey
25-01-2017, 09:24 PM
Who done the comment?

baboon2004
25-01-2017, 09:26 PM
Commenting on the Guardian is my worst habit but you do come across some freaks on there. Best argument I had was with an older lad from Norwich who swore blind he was at snoop's first UK concert and was literally the only white person there and was menaced by London gang members all night long.

Was it Westwood?

Arguing on the Guardian is even worse than youtube - basic debating skills make it all the more bitter somehow.

Diggedy Derek
26-01-2017, 12:07 AM
Wiley Guardian piece not only written by former Dissensus alumni, but edited by one who works on Long Read at the paper too...

rubberdingyrapids
26-01-2017, 12:22 AM
Wiley Guardian piece not only written by former Dissensus alumni, but edited by one who works on Long Read at the paper too...

dissensus is the sylvia young stage school of journalism.

Corpsey
26-01-2017, 09:09 AM
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luka
28-01-2017, 11:19 AM
Originally Posted by Diggedy Derek View Post
Wiley Guardian piece not only written by former Dissensus alumni, but edited by one who works on Long Read at the paper too...
dissensus is the sylvia young stage school of journalism.


sad that a lot of people got educated here and by our blogs but didnt stick around to educate the next generation. they dont care about the youth like we do.