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luka
28-01-2017, 05:07 PM
I quite rate them. They're so cluely and career minded. The only thing i would critisze them for is that they dont have souls. A good way to appreciate the difference between millenials and my lot is look at wiley, born same year as me, and then compare how hes run his career to dizzee or even a jme.

but they are so good at simulation and pastiche. its their superpower i would say. i know i keep banging on about this.

Corpsey
31-01-2017, 11:20 AM
What's your point re: Wiley?

He ran it badly?

luka
31-01-2017, 11:26 AM
not a careerist, doesnt even understand how to be one. has a soul. millenials have no souls but they are very canny operators. very smart and aesthetic.

Corpsey
31-01-2017, 01:03 PM
So Dizzee Rascal and JME don't have soul?

Wiley did some pretty shit commercial house tunes let's not forget.

Corpsey
31-01-2017, 01:04 PM
I feel like JME is as much of a character as Wiley, albeit less haphazard.

luka
31-01-2017, 01:05 PM
I said a soul. Not soul as a quality.

Corpsey
31-01-2017, 01:10 PM
I dunno what you mean lol

But I sort of get what you're saying

People are savvy these days.

I mean public image is something EVERYBODY understands now, due to social media.

luka
31-01-2017, 01:19 PM
I was looking at some pictures of me and other people from Early '00s pre Facebook we all look hideous I wanted to puke up.

luka
31-01-2017, 01:19 PM
Pre fashion in the high street.

luka
31-01-2017, 01:21 PM
Hair was a disgrace. Clothes were a disgrace. No visual awareness or awareness of self presentation.

sadmanbarty
31-01-2017, 01:34 PM
I feel like JME is as much of a character as Wiley, albeit less haphazard.

But JME is superficial, Wiley says and does things that engage you emotionally, in a subtle, genuine way.

yyaldrin
31-01-2017, 02:00 PM
I am millennial.

Leo
31-01-2017, 02:01 PM
the concept of selling out doesn't exist for millennials, or if it does then it doesn't matter to them. probably to do with growing up in the social media age where shamelessly promoting yourself is a natural thing to do that no one looks down on. might also tie in to the notion that they have much fewer paths to success compared to previous generations and therefore accept the fact that they have to sell their souls to some degree to get ahead.

sadmanbarty
31-01-2017, 02:08 PM
I'm a millennial

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u93bhAimFFU

luka
31-01-2017, 02:13 PM
I first became aware of their separateness in 2006 when I noticed I was surrounded by people who cared about clothes more than music and that these people were all conspicuously younger and better looking than me.

luka
31-01-2017, 02:18 PM
It was all next, burton and Mr byrite in my day. Madhouse on Oxford Street. Fashion coming to the high street was an epochal shift.

luka
31-01-2017, 02:29 PM
That's when I started thinking in terms of fancy dress. All the signifiers removed. It's all a dressing up box. There's no meaning in their world. It gives them a very enviable amount of freedom.

CrowleyHead
31-01-2017, 02:46 PM
The millenial window is garbage though, you can't connect people born in 77 with people born in 93, do you have a more scaled down window in mind?

luka
31-01-2017, 02:50 PM
Of course. Cos me and wiley were born in '79

luka
31-01-2017, 02:51 PM
But don't ask me to pin down a date. People just look young. I can't tell a 30 year old from a 19 year old.

Corpsey
31-01-2017, 03:10 PM
I was born in 85. I grew up without the internet, for the most part. I recorded stuff off the radio onto cassette. I reckon I'm just about pre-millenial.

I feel lucky to have known a life without the internet tbh. I was thinking of starting a thread on here along the lines of 'If you could make the internet disappear forever would you?'

Leo
31-01-2017, 04:25 PM
I was born in 85. I grew up without the internet, for the most part. I recorded stuff off the radio onto cassette. I reckon I'm just about pre-millenial.

I feel lucky to have known a life without the internet tbh. I was thinking of starting a thread on here along the lines of 'If you could make the internet disappear forever would you?'

that's part of the reason record stores were so important back then (aside from the obvious lack of digital downloads in those days). we used to go to certain stores religiously, once a week if not more, got turned on to stuff being played in-store, got recommendations from people who worked there, chatted with fellow customers, picked up the latest fanzines...all the IRL things that were lost in the internet era.

yyaldrin
31-01-2017, 06:32 PM
I was born in 85. I grew up without the internet, for the most part. I recorded stuff off the radio onto cassette. I reckon I'm just about pre-millenial.

I feel lucky to have known a life without the internet tbh. I was thinking of starting a thread on here along the lines of 'If you could make the internet disappear forever would you?'

Would you? I'd definitely bomb the internet to pieces if I'd had the possibility. It became a monster, Hitler would've loved it.

Corpsey
31-01-2017, 07:27 PM
Hard to say. There are many benefits to having it but it's more or less a thing to waste time and spend money on. There are discussions, but it's become clear that most people don't want their minds changed. We're addicted to our smartphones. Fake news. Tax avoidance. Behavioural manipulation. Destruction of attention spans. Surveillance...

It's a grim picture, for all the memes and podcasts and instant access to music and movies, etc.

firefinga
31-01-2017, 07:31 PM
Would you? I'd definitely bomb the internet to pieces if I'd had the possibility. It became a monster,

I grew up with it, starting with phone modems at 28.8 Kbit speeds back in '95. It became a bit shit tho only after widespread usage of social media coupled with smartphones really.

Mr. Tea
31-01-2017, 07:52 PM
I was born in 85. I grew up without the internet, for the most part. I recorded stuff off the radio onto cassette. I reckon I'm just about pre-millenial.


You reckon? I've seen definitions as broad as 'born in the 1980s'.

HMGovt
31-01-2017, 09:37 PM
I feel lucky to have known a life without the internet tbh. I was thinking of starting a thread on here along the lines of 'If you could make the internet disappear forever would you?'

It needs to be turned off now and then at least. Regular Internet bank holidays.

I was born in 74 and remember dreams of having a book that contained anything you wanted to know, handed to me by the teacher from the bash Street kids. I was so disappointed when I woke up and it didn't exist. Now it does, and more. But it's fucking us up and leaving civilisation vulnerable.

Leo
31-01-2017, 10:36 PM
I was born in 74 and remember dreams of having a book that contained anything you wanted to know...

it was called an encyclopedia.

rubberdingyrapids
01-02-2017, 11:51 AM
im gonna start selling 56k modems for ppl who want the net but want to appreciate it more

Mr. Tea
03-02-2017, 12:00 PM
You've all seen this, yes?

Millennials outraged over TV show portraying millennials as outraged

A millennial member of a focus group has angrily objected to the contents of a television programme because it portrayed millennials as coddled, easily offended and thin-skinned. (http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/millennials-outraged-over-tv-show-portraying-millennials-as-outraged-a7184771.html)

Trigger warning: Stephen Fry.

Corpsey
06-02-2017, 10:13 AM
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/this-is-why-gen-z-takes-fewer-drugs-than-you