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sufi
21-03-2018, 09:54 PM
Big images please

sufi
21-03-2018, 10:08 PM
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6208/6133167721_1e1ce82dd4_b.jpg
Temple Works Leeds

droid
22-03-2018, 10:19 AM
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Tianjin Binhai Library

luka
22-03-2018, 10:32 AM
i thought the first building i ever described as looking like cgi superimposed on the skyline was the swiss re building/gherkin. but now im confused because wikipedia is telling me city hall opened in '02, the gherkin in '03, and city hall and the landscaping around it gave me that feeling very strongly and still does.

city hall and the space around it i think of being the blueprint for new space and new london. the model for developments like bloomberg building on cannon street for instance. (both are also 'smart buildings' although that's not apparent by looking at them)
pedestrianised and privatised space. what are the pavements there made out of? granite? that expensive corporate grey colour. that's a hallmark of new space. the shops under the office blocks. the private security.

it's reproducing itself all over the city. it's formed a strategic alliance with the new breed of hipster corporations. franco manca, crosstown doughnuts, notes coffee, homeslice pizza, bleeker burger, byron etc etc.

these brands which emerged from that hipster/foodie convergence. street food. 3rd wave coffee. craft beer. borough market. maltby street. broadway market. the willingness to pay 7 for a pint. $5 for a coffe. 10 for a burger. etc etc

luka
22-03-2018, 10:35 AM
i suppose all the spaces around canary wharf were really the first to give a clue to this future (in london that is(

Mr. Tea
22-03-2018, 10:47 AM
544

Edit: the new concert hall in Hamburg that opened a year or two ago - think I posted here about it at the time. Designed by algorithm, it has 10,000 acoustic panels, each of which has 100 dimples in it. No two panels are identical.

luka
22-03-2018, 10:50 AM
obviously a lot of the new-space is owned by Qatar etc.

CORP$EY
22-03-2018, 10:58 AM
One Blackfriars

https://media.licdn.com/mpr/mpr/AAEAAQAAAAAAAAmuAAAAJDQwYjI0YTgyLWZlZjUtNDlkZi1iMD Q5LTUwNGFjZTI3ODNlYg.jpg

This is concept art which gives you a good idea of what they're going for

A cloaked building, indivisible from the sky

Probably not actually inhabited with any real people (other than cleaners etc.) too so very virtual indeed

CORP$EY
22-03-2018, 11:01 AM
I quite like skyscrapers, and I like imagining people in the distant future discovering them in the wilderness and not knowing why they were built...

in reality of course they're very boring, full of offices or oligarch apartments

Still, and I feel like prince charles for saying so, I don't think we build anything as great as they built in e.g. the gothic era anymore

It's like CGI - incredibly impressive but never actually impressive.

These buildings look like they were designed and built by computers.

luka
22-03-2018, 11:06 AM
These buildings look like they were designed and built by computers.

they sort of were. that's largely the point isnt it. it's the equivalent of electronic/computer music.
you get effects you couldnt acheive before. which is why there's an aesthetic argument for leaning into
the difference. pushing it as far as it can go. that's what i would like to see happen i think, if we are going
to have these buildings (and the alternative is to be a museum like paris)

luka
22-03-2018, 11:07 AM
and again people live inside computer enviroments now. they go to work in a compter building to work inside a computer.
there's a pleasing symmetry to it.

CORP$EY
22-03-2018, 11:17 AM
https://www.architecture.com/awards-and-competitions-landing-page/awards

Seems like wood is big in architecture these days

CORP$EY
22-03-2018, 11:19 AM
It's an interesting question actually, if - despite living in the computer age - we are entirely comfortable with the idea of being modern anymore. I feel an anxiety about it, and about the smoothing out of human foibles by AI. I don't feel any affection towards these big skyscrapers. I feel a sense of awe, of awe towards capital. That wears off quite quickly.

Mind you this applies to grandiose structures of olde, too - St. Peter's, for example. Blows your mind when you walk in but its all a bit much after a few minutes.

CORP$EY
22-03-2018, 11:20 AM
Architecture as expressive of power alone - the Egyptian ruins I visited were similarly awe-inspiring and boring.

CORP$EY
22-03-2018, 11:23 AM
Why, too, is minimalism and abstraction the default mode of modernity? What once was the shock of the new is the now the bland of the now.

There isn't a belief driving society left except in money and (for many) science. Banal as it is to say, we only have temples to the stock market left.

CORP$EY
22-03-2018, 11:26 AM
Totally forgot that we believe in environmentalism

http://www.wired.co.uk/article/citytree-air-pollution-uk-piccadilly

This is a part of the gherkin, isn't it? Sustainability. Organic structures. Maybe that's why wood is big. In the scene. Of architecture.

EDIT: Sorry sufi I've derailed this thread. More pictures of VR buildings are needed.

luka
22-03-2018, 11:38 AM
Totally forgot that we believe in environmentalism

http://www.wired.co.uk/article/citytree-air-pollution-uk-piccadilly

This is a part of the gherkin, isn't it? Sustainability. Organic structures. Maybe that's why wood is big. In the scene. Of architecture.

EDIT: Sorry sufi I've derailed this thread. More pictures of VR buildings are needed.

i mentioned the 'smart building' stuff. lots of it in dubai. was china building a 'smart city'? or did i make that up. i dont agree that the thread needs more pics and less harebrained speculation. keep it up.

these buildings do seem to be the purest representations of capital dont they? better even than a huge pile of banknotes would be.
particularly as they squat on the most expensive real estate on earth. and by being at the forefront of the future they have a slightly retro feel, as if they were harking back to neromancer, hypercapital, Tessier-Ashpool.

luka
22-03-2018, 11:40 AM
when you see the isle of dogs after dark from the high ridge of land round greenwich etc the blue glass, the corporate logos, the winking pyramid and the matrix of light.

luka
22-03-2018, 11:45 AM
worth bearing in mind that the canary wharf area is likewise private land. almost a city state of infinite wealth, seceded from greater london. it seems to float above its surroundings like a mirage.

CORP$EY
22-03-2018, 11:51 AM
They should do more with screens

A CGI sistine chapel done by Industrial Light and Magic

But not the story of genesis, the story of the industrial revolution (actually they sorta did this in the olympics opening ceremony, didn't they?)

luka
22-03-2018, 11:59 AM
https://www.architecture.com/awards-and-competitions-landing-page/awards

Seems like wood is big in architecture these days

'drum and bass with real instruments.'

luka
22-03-2018, 12:00 PM
They should do more with screens

A CGI sistine chapel done by Industrial Light and Magic

But not the story of genesis, the story of the industrial revolution (actually they sorta did this in the olympics opening ceremony, didn't they?)

it's in bladerunner so they'll get to it eventually i'd imagine. (not screen so much but the evolution of the screen. the free floating moving image projected into space)

CORP$EY
22-03-2018, 12:03 PM
What I'm wondering is does the future HAVE to be shiny, smooth, artificial? Or is that just a notion of the future we've inherited? (You refer to this upthread, the retro look of these 'cutting-edge' designs.

Mr. Tea
22-03-2018, 12:03 PM
i suppose all the spaces around canary wharf were really the first to give a clue to this future (in london that is(

I used to think this when I had a job around there years ago. Some of the buildings were so new and shiny, so totally bereft of anything soft or organic or curved, they really did look like full-sized CGI architects' models, to the extent that it was actually disconcerting. And then, as I glid past on the driverless DLR train, my eye would casually land on a single piece of rusting Victorian dock equipment that had been left in place for some reason.

(Is 'glid' a word? Seems like it should be.)

(Oh, and I saw seals in the docks once. That was cool.)

CORP$EY
22-03-2018, 12:04 PM
I mean

http://daminhvn.net/Image/Picture/V%C4%82N%20H%C3%93A%20NGH%E1%BB%86%20THU%E1%BA%ACT/Suy%20T%C6%B0/201606_DuDoanTuongLai.jpg

How boring!

luka
22-03-2018, 12:04 PM
What I'm wondering is does the future HAVE to be shiny, smooth, artificial? Or is that just a notion of the future we've inherited? (You refer to this upthread, the retro look of these 'cutting-edge' designs.

it's to do with the nature of the screen isn't it?

Mr. Tea
22-03-2018, 12:06 PM
What I'm wondering is does the future HAVE to be shiny, smooth, artificial?

Nah, it could very well turn out rusty, scavenged, jerry-rigged and possibly radioactive.

[in b4 droid...]

luka
22-03-2018, 12:06 PM
that specific visual form of interface with the computer. there's no tactility there. so you have buildings made on computers, aspiring to the condition of computer-space. that's why i keep saying london is dematerialising. it's why i wrote a poem called the materials about materials before there are no materials!

luka
22-03-2018, 12:07 PM
it's why i said modern pop sounds like the future becasue of the same frictionless, expensive quality. brushed steel. opaque glass.

luka
22-03-2018, 12:08 PM
I mean

http://daminhvn.net/Image/Picture/V%C4%82N%20H%C3%93A%20NGH%E1%BB%86%20THU%E1%BA%ACT/Suy%20T%C6%B0/201606_DuDoanTuongLai.jpg

How boring!

have a walk around the olympic village behind stratford. this already exists in a boring form.

CORP$EY
22-03-2018, 12:13 PM
Been around there many times

It's a horrible excuse for a park

The swimming pool is a cool design

I actually like stratford - all those skyscrapers jutting out against the skyline

I like to walk around there stoned imagining I'm in the nascent stage of blade runner

luka
22-03-2018, 12:16 PM
Been around there many times

It's a horrible excuse for a park

The swimming pool is a cool design

I actually like stratford - all those skyscrapers jutting out against the skyline

I like to walk around there stoned imagining I'm in the nascent stage of blade runner

stratford is the future. do you know the old shopping centre? where teenagers on rollerblades leap over the sleeping bodies of homeless Romanians? there's nowhere remotely as futurisitc as stratford.

CORP$EY
22-03-2018, 12:16 PM
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/b5/57/4a/b5574a4e37ce4f73cad7aa0415355304--dubai-architecture-amazing-architecture.jpg

https://ebookfriendly.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Library-of-the-University-of-Economics-Vienna-outside-540x360.jpg

https://themostbeautifulplacesineurope.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/dsc_0388.jpg

http://www.designcontract.eu/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Folkart-Towers.jpg

luka
22-03-2018, 12:16 PM
i cant go there without feeling very sad/angry/cheated because theyve disappeared my whole childhood under that olympic site.

luka
22-03-2018, 12:18 PM
Been around there many times

It's a horrible excuse for a park

The swimming pool is a cool design

I actually like stratford - all those skyscrapers jutting out against the skyline

I like to walk around there stoned imagining I'm in the nascent stage of blade runner

the most disorientating thing is that they have their own android population of very young, wealthy, physically attractive residents from a clone lab somewhere. playing table tennis shirtless, muscles rippling, baseball caps on backwards, high-5ing each other. who are these people?

sufi
22-03-2018, 12:21 PM
that specific visual form of interface with the computer. there's no tactility there. so you have buildings made on computers, aspiring to the condition of computer-space. that's why i keep saying london is dematerialising. it's why i wrote a poem called the materials about materials before there are no materials!OK so what of this in melbs and this nonsense in london victoria (it's crap design features are a bit "subtle")?
overlaying images on the structural designs that likely would not have been doable without a lot of manual drafting, but made some nice and groovy visual effect with just a moment of clicky clck
Not sure if those are CAD trying to soften or humanise itself with a sort of sense of humour or history perhaps, or ...?
https://urban.melbourne/sites/urban.melbourne/files/pictures/article-images/173_05-03-2015_7450.jpg
https://lc.zoocdn.com/6d3aed2e1d126d60acf9d1eeed8d1a50b7224de6.jpg

CORP$EY
22-03-2018, 12:21 PM
https://i.imgur.com/1AIjCQe.jpg

sufi
22-03-2018, 12:26 PM
https://i.redd.it/btszifi2ztjy.jpg makes a much better job of having a bit of a laugh, while still being too boggling to have existed without electronic visualisation

sufi
22-03-2018, 12:31 PM
sports shoes, mobile phones and motor vehicles are all melting into a single nasty design strategy as implemented in every direction from old st roundabout omphalos
https://www.e-architect.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/old-street-roundabout-design-by-epr-architects-london-x150218.jpg

luka
22-03-2018, 12:31 PM
OK so what of this in melbs and this nonsense in london victoria (it's crap design features are a bit "subtle")?
overlaying images on the structural designs that likely would not have been doable without a lot of manual drafting, but made some nice and groovy visual effect with just a moment of clicky clck
Not sure if those are CAD trying to soften or humanise itself with a sort of sense of humour or history perhaps, or ...?

yes. ive picked out a strand and emphasised it (sleek, frictionless, opaque, monochrome or primary colours) but it leaves things out. some of those things are botches and half-measures and not worth thinking about (drum and bass with real instruments)
but youve pointed to something which is worth poking and prodding at.

things that only become feasible (in terms of the maths etc) with computers. a lot of starchtiect stuff. zaha hadid etc

luka
22-03-2018, 12:34 PM
corpsey are you just posting fantasy art from the 1970s now? cover art of pulped sci-fi novels?

CORP$EY
22-03-2018, 12:34 PM
yes

CORP$EY
22-03-2018, 12:37 PM
the thing is alot of these ultra modern buildings look like the jetsons

http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/paleofuture/files/2013/01/jetsons-mansion.jpeg

CORP$EY
22-03-2018, 12:39 PM
There's some good ones in here

https://cdn-media-1.lifehack.org/wp-content/files/2014/10/india-tower.jpg

https://cdn-media-1.lifehack.org/wp-content/files/2014/10/Case_a_Cubo_Kubuswoningen_2-1024x768.jpg

sufi
22-03-2018, 12:40 PM
stratford is the future. do you know the old shopping centre? where teenagers on rollerblades leap over the sleeping bodies of homeless Romanians? there's nowhere remotely as futurisitc as stratford.https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/mar/21/man-stabbed-to-death-at-stratford-london-shopping-centre Tuesday night :( someone's future truncated
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the CAD fish shapes outside that box, trying to live up to westfield

luka
22-03-2018, 12:42 PM
the thing is alot of these ultra modern buildings look like the jetsons

http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/paleofuture/files/2013/01/jetsons-mansion.jpeg

stuff not a million miles from this was being built in the LA hills at roughly the same time as the Jetsons was being made. the stilts. the long glass frontages etc.

CORP$EY
22-03-2018, 12:42 PM
has anyone seen Big Hero 6?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ep2-W1X65KI

I think buildings will be built by micro robots soon and there will be almost no limit to what they can do

they'll produce the material they build from as they build

i'm going to live in a house that's a giant replica of luka's head

luka
22-03-2018, 12:46 PM
someone's future truncated

well this is partly what i was alluding to. the refusal of responsibility. the breakaway civilization. the atlantis of ayn rand. the city of quartz. a classic picture of the future.

Mr. Tea
22-03-2018, 01:03 PM
This one looks like it should be some Escheresque impossible figure:

545

(China, of course.)

sufi
22-03-2018, 01:15 PM
has anyone seen Big Hero 6?

I think buildings will be built by micro robots soon and there will be almost no limit to what they can do

they'll produce the material they build from as they build

si, a generous dollop of futuro-visionary corporate urbanist bollocks on that movie https://gizmodo.com/a-tour-of-san-fransokyo-the-hybrid-city-disney-built-f-1642066794

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--AJCAqmvT--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/d7vv2k1sxvplse8iokot.jpg
The new movie Big Hero 6 represents the first-ever partnership between Marvel and Disney, two entities known for constructing fantastical universes. So it's not surprising that bringing the story to film also required building an entire city of the future: a blend of Tokyo and San Francisco named San Fransokyo.


i'm going to live in a house that's a giant replica of luka's head
isnt all of this just that?

sufi
22-03-2018, 01:32 PM
check back my first post -
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6208/6133167721_1e1ce82dd4_b.jpg
Temple Works LeedsTemple Works Leeds (http://tomjackson.photography/interactive/templeworks/) - once upon a time the biggest engineered space in the world, http://www.templeworksleeds.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/9118635814_26976130d4_b.jpg
but all constructed well before the electronic era,
http://www.templeworksleeds.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Slide3-e1426154548186.jpgnow feels like a first person shooter with layers of CGI techno-grime emulating an authentic feeling of agedness in this building which itself was a revival of ancient egyptian styling on modernist materials (cast iron :crylarf:)
http://www.templeworksleeds.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Slide1.jpg

CORP$EY
22-03-2018, 01:50 PM
San Franktokyo

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/c5/91/e8/c591e818cd29383b7475456d51b17302.jpg

sufi
22-03-2018, 08:53 PM
Through the yellow doorway you get to Silo 3. Silo 2 is the path behind me, and silo 1 directly down the tube in front.
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4034/4674516481_6883f96aea_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/8857TK)Junction (https://flic.kr/p/8857TK) by David Stillman (https://www.flickr.com/photos/stilldavid/), on Flickr

Corpsey
25-03-2018, 10:30 PM
This one looks like it should be some Escheresque impossible figure:

545

(China, of course.)

Love this

sufi
13-05-2018, 12:36 PM
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sufi
13-05-2018, 12:37 PM
..
something about the colours or maybe the intensity of the natural light - bright sun filtered by smog

sufi
13-05-2018, 12:38 PM
...or the scaling and lack of context to visually understand the size. zoom = 170%