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mpc
29-05-2005, 11:59 AM
http://83.217.103.170/articles/fullstory.php?&sid=&id=1888

"Iíve done a remix for Bloc Partyís ĎPositive Tensioní track and Flirta Dís on it. It is the first grime/rock collaboration, and itís nuts. Theyíve been playing the track at gigs all over the world so look out for that."

Logan Sama
29-05-2005, 12:44 PM
There's two mixes. Both different.

I've played them on ym show.

I'll play one of them again this week for you to check out.

mpc
29-05-2005, 12:58 PM
any good?

when's your next show?

Logan Sama
29-05-2005, 01:12 PM
Every thursday night 2am on kiss 100

glee
09-09-2005, 09:51 AM
hi

one of the statik remixes of bloc party was played on 1xtra the other night...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/1xtra/tracklistings/garage/richievee.shtml

mp3 here:

http://s44.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=30MQJ8LDKG8RN2A9EPXTBKRK4Z

does anyone know where i can hear the other remix? just curious!

hint
09-09-2005, 10:31 AM
I guess it'll be on the forthcoming Bloc Party remix album

mms
09-09-2005, 07:53 PM
I guess it'll be on the forthcoming Bloc Party remix album


thats out and it's not - it's all trash djs and four tet yawny stuff

hint
10-09-2005, 09:33 AM
thats out and it's not - it's all trash djs and four tet yawny stuff

Ah, I see... hmmm... Statik mixes may still come out on a 12" I suppose

DJL
10-09-2005, 03:21 PM
This is really good. Not heard much like that before. Played it to my brother who is a rock dude and he was well impressed and wanted to hear it again immediately. He also wanted to know who the MC was and when I described him as like the guy off Police Academy who makes sound effects and has incorporated Street Fighter special attack noises into his lyrics he was almost literally salivating and demanded I play him that. I think its brilliant that indie rock people like the The Ordinary Boys and Bloc Party are crossing genres. Illuminates who the big boys are imo.

mms
10-09-2005, 06:13 PM
This is really good. Not heard much like that before. Played it to my brother who is a rock dude and he was well impressed and wanted to hear it again immediately. He also wanted to know who the MC was and when I described him as like the guy off Police Academy who makes sound effects and has incorporated Street Fighter special attack noises into his lyrics he was almost literally salivating and demanded I play him that. I think its brilliant that indie rock people like the The Ordinary Boys and Bloc Party are crossing genres. Illuminates who the big boys are imo.

except the ordinary boys regardless of liking grime are inexplicably bad pub rock from 1978.
i think of all these groups bloc party will be the one band that may become greater than the sum of the culture that created them.

glee
10-09-2005, 08:20 PM
a question for Logan Sama! did both statik remixes come from a white label??

Ach!
10-09-2005, 11:04 PM
This is baaad. Maybe leave out the singing guy though. And add some more Flirta.

Tactics
11-09-2005, 01:06 PM
Too bad it didn't make their rmx LP. What's it for then?

mms
11-09-2005, 01:31 PM
Too bad it didn't make their rmx LP. What's it for then?

custom built to impress this forum ;)

h-crimm
11-09-2005, 02:07 PM
that bloc party boys voice is so boring. it doesnt need flirta d to be whooping away to point that out but the comparison doesnt do bloc-boy any favours.

i guess its cool for flirta di didi dee if rock boys get into him as a novelty police academy style crazy :confused:

gumdrops
11-09-2005, 02:24 PM
lots of indie boys seem to be namechecking grime artists - the producer paul epworth was namechecking crazy titch and kano in the NME, ian brown has been talking about how much he likes grime lately too. this remix is fantastic btw!

Blackdown
11-09-2005, 09:39 PM
crikey. maybe the NME will open it's doors to more than monocultural indie on a regular basis then!

Sophie Sticklebrick
11-09-2005, 11:18 PM
Paul Epworth was remixing Kano quite a while ago, and he gave him a copy of Bloc Party's 'She's Hearing Voices' which Kano then rapped over. Bloc Party really liked it and wanted to release it but it didn't make it onto the remix album.. perhaps because it wasn't exactly a remix.

Kele from Bloc Party grew up near Kano in East Ham and went to school with one of the Mitchell Brothers, fact fans!

Immryr
12-09-2005, 03:44 AM
this is a good remix but just imagine how amazing this would sound if it was a remix of the fall. mark e smiths vocals would sound toppa top over something like this.

gumdrops
12-09-2005, 09:38 AM
i know extra-fey voices are ok these days, but im surprised no one else finds kele's voice quite weak.

ewmy
13-09-2005, 12:57 PM
Paul Epworth is producing Plan B's album as well I think?

tryptych
15-09-2005, 09:39 PM
^ Yeah, and didnt he produce a couple of the tracks on Kano's LP? Paul is a top boy..

boomnoise
15-09-2005, 10:35 PM
the lady sovereign remix of the ordinary boys is, not unsurprisingly, terrible.

i'm all for crossover but not making this statik remix available on the remix lp kinda defeats the point and does very little to promote grime to the indie masses.

surely that was the kind of platform it needed. something from where bloc party fans can explore the remixers work and look to grime and learn that grime isn't exactly roll deep's avenue which they've heard jo wiley (sic) playing alongside bloc party's war child mk 2.0 contribution.

gumdrops
15-10-2006, 03:03 PM
looks like statik really wants to work in indie as hes apparently produced the new 'all star' remake of the clash's janie jones (with one of the guys from babyshambles). sounds pretty good actually. didnt think he would be that adept at producing a live band but he seems alright. the videos on prancehalls blog. theres meant to be a remx with JME as well.

squibl
15-10-2006, 04:39 PM
damit. That bloody bloc party remix was banging. It never got a full release on any format did it, except that waste grindie mixtape.

swears
15-10-2006, 05:04 PM
Isn't grime better crossing over with pop and r'n'b influences? Like that track "Gully" Crazy Titch did with Keisha from Sugababes.

gek-opel
15-10-2006, 05:29 PM
The thing is there IS potential in an indie-grime crossover, but not in the way Statik has at times attempted to carry it out. I mean, the idea of grime rapping over guitars from such non-entities as the sodding babyshambles is just a marketing ploy really. I could conceive of some smarter collaborations, and yes as someone said ages ago upthread Bloc Party are the most appropriate of all the UK mainstream NME-approved indie people that Statik has been repping (cos at their best they are a very rhythmically focused act). But really you'd need people who were less on the pub rock side of things to make this work. I have heard rumour that Boy Better Know are collaborating with Gang Gang Dance, now that I would like to hear.

gumdrops
09-03-2007, 12:24 PM
what is statik doing now? apart from producing clash remakes for charity?

shudder
09-03-2007, 06:44 PM
I have heard rumour that Boy Better Know are collaborating with Gang Gang Dance, now that I would like to hear.

what??? is this credible? I'm ALL OVER that. When they played here a couple months ago, they had their friend DJing some wicked (dancehall) reggae before and after, and it totally recontextualized their beat sensibilities throughout the show for me. I could almost hear some grimey-ness is what before I had heard mainly as wacked-out "arab"influenced rock stuff.

glee
10-03-2007, 02:18 PM
woah..

http://www.theluminaire.co.uk/main.php?section=events&month=AUGUST&event=214&year=2006

Main support are Boy Better Know, a UK Garage act featuring Tinchy Stryder (guesting on the new Gang Gang Dance album), JME and DJ Maximum.

http://www.hideoutstore.com/outlook/?p=396

damn..

gek-opel
10-03-2007, 03:54 PM
Yeah, I saw GGD with BBK supporting, and the new GGD stuff has some pretty grime/dubstep bass weight action going on. Obviously (and with reference to the Hadouken stuff) the kind of appropriation which occurs with an art rock group like GGD is not entirely unproblematic, but I suspect the results will be far more intriguing (and preserve the more interesting aspects of grime- ie the faltering rhythms and bright plastic electronic production) than a lame attempt (born of the marketing man's eye for lining up demographic opportunities) to mash up pub-indie and grime...

mms
10-03-2007, 06:22 PM
Yeah, I saw GGD with BBK supporting, and the new GGD stuff has some pretty grime/dubstep bass weight action going on. Obviously (and with reference to the Hadouken stuff) the kind of appropriation which occurs with an art rock group like GGD is not entirely unproblematic, but I suspect the results will be far more intriguing (and preserve the more interesting aspects of grime- ie the faltering rhythms and bright plastic electronic production) than a lame attempt (born of the marketing man's eye for lining up demographic opportunities) to mash up pub-indie and grime...

ggdance are absolutley brilliant - god's money was fantastic.

tate
10-03-2007, 08:27 PM
Yeah, I saw GGD with BBK supporting, and the new GGD stuff has some pretty grime/dubstep bass weight action going on. Obviously (and with reference to the Hadouken stuff) the kind of appropriation which occurs with an art rock group like GGD is not entirely unproblematic, but I suspect the results will be far more intriguing (and preserve the more interesting aspects of grime- ie the faltering rhythms and bright plastic electronic production) than a lame attempt (born of the marketing man's eye for lining up demographic opportunities) to mash up pub-indie and grime...
I saw Gang Gang Dance a few weeks ago in Brooklyn as well, and I wouldn't say that that there was a great deal of grime or dubstep "bass weight" at work, certainly not at the level that I would call "appropriation" much less "problematic appropriation." Yeah, sure, the absence of a bass player and Brian's interest in cheap technology (including massive bass at times, yes) may lend a few bassy bits and grimey sounds to it, sure, but, in proportion to the other compositional and sonic ideas on display, I'd say that grime/dubstep ranks pretty low - if anything they sound a lot more like trashy-glossy Balkan or Central Asian pop than East London in my humble opinion. Brian also loves that yamaha dd 50, the cheapo drum pad thing, which he plays a lot, and often in tandem with synths, but I'd say that overwhelmingly Gang Gang Dance are pursuing their own sound, which doesn't really sound like anyone else. They certainly don't sound like art rock dudes appropriating grime, not yet anyway (and they are now hella more organized and composed than what's on god's money, a record i like very much incidentally). lizzie's vocals for another thing, how she uses a delay pedal and repeatedly turns off the send volume so you only get waves of echo, very much her own sound and not grimey at all. Maybe your show was different, obv the presence of Tinchy guesting will be fun to hear, in any case I guess the record in a month will tell the story. I could be wrong, maybe they are grime appropriators.

Tactics
11-03-2007, 11:30 AM
woah..

http://www.theluminaire.co.uk/main.php?section=events&month=AUGUST&event=214&year=2006

Main support are Boy Better Know, a UK Garage act featuring Tinchy Stryder (guesting on the new Gang Gang Dance album), JME and DJ Maximum.

http://www.hideoutstore.com/outlook/?p=396

damn..

kinda hyped lol...I would like to hear some of their stuff

gumdrops
11-03-2007, 11:47 AM
GGD sound interesting. this riddim x tune is sort of IDMish though, not so much grime although some of the bass sounds are kinda like early grime/gabba-ish. the gods money track has some dubstep influence. dont know what their album is like but the myspace songs arent what i imagined them being like at all.

Tactics
11-03-2007, 11:48 AM
GGD sound interesting. this riddim x tune is sort of IDMish though, not so much grime although some of the bass sounds are kinda like early grime/gabba-ish. the gods money track has some dubstep influence. dont know what their album is like but the myspace songs arent what i imagined them being like at all.

I've been meaning to ask ever since I joined this place lol...

gumdrops
11-03-2007, 11:57 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabber

i would like ruff sqwad and dizzee to exhibit more of a gabba influence in their music lol.

check out some rotterdam terror corps ;)

gek-opel
11-03-2007, 02:28 PM
I saw Gang Gang Dance a few weeks ago in Brooklyn as well, and I wouldn't say that that there was a great deal of grime or dubstep "bass weight" at work, certainly not at the level that I would call "appropriation" much less "problematic appropriation." Yeah, sure, the absence of a bass player and Brian's interest in cheap technology (including massive bass at times, yes) may lend a few bassy bits and grimey sounds to it, sure, but, in proportion to the other compositional and sonic ideas on display, I'd say that grime/dubstep ranks pretty low - if anything they sound a lot more like trashy-glossy Balkan or Central Asian pop than East London in my humble opinion. Brian also loves that yamaha dd 50, the cheapo drum pad thing, which he plays a lot, and often in tandem with synths, but I'd say that overwhelmingly Gang Gang Dance are pursuing their own sound, which doesn't really sound like anyone else. They certainly don't sound like art rock dudes appropriating grime, not yet anyway (and they are now hella more organized and composed than what's on god's money, a record i like very much incidentally). lizzie's vocals for another thing, how she uses a delay pedal and repeatedly turns off the send volume so you only get waves of echo, very much her own sound and not grimey at all. Maybe your show was different, obv the presence of Tinchy guesting will be fun to hear, in any case I guess the record in a month will tell the story. I could be wrong, maybe they are grime appropriators.


Yeah, they are clearly moving away from mucky improv stuff into more synthetic composed songwriting... listening to God's Money the abiding impression is as you say that they are appropriating trashy central Asian pop... but when I saw them last year there was a definite UK post Garage (ie- grime and dubstep) feel to the music- obviously to a lot of people grime is synonymous with the particular flows of the MCs, and in this regard there was zero influence on their new music, but in the rhythms, and instrumental textures there were definite references, and not merely in a kinda backwards sino-grime manner either... The overriding effect is of them pursuing their own inimitable sound to be sure, but the incorporation of subtle (ie- we sure ain't talking about Hadouken here...) global urban influences (its a kind of pan-global mass-appropriation they deal in, all filtered through a song-based art-rock filter) is their prime methodology... the fact that the end result doesn't feel either pathetically derivative or denuded of the force provided by the cultural contexts of their numerous source materials is the greatest strength (perhaps afforded by the lack of Sun City Girls-esque pranksterism, combined with a sense of unification offered in bright synthetic textures which cuts against any chin stroking authenticity issues-- its gloriously inauthentic, and they play with that element without surrendering to empty po-mo.)

Definitely one of my favourite bands, the new material should be excellent, I imagine...

shudder
11-03-2007, 07:53 PM
I would love to hear what the band members would say about all this. When they played in Toronto a couple of months ago, I spoke with the singer and (I think) the keyboard player, and they were really friendly and happy to talk about their music. I wish I had known about the BBK collabo back then. Did someone say their new album is coming out soon?