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Melmoth
05-07-2005, 09:27 AM
Anybody in London catch any of the season at the NFT? I saw three, L'Avventura, L'Eclisse and Red Desert (with Richard Harris) and was whelmed in a big way. That bleak, antiseptic, neurotic aesthetic: totally Ballard innit? All those factories, airstrips, radar stations, mysterious islands, desolate empty streetscapes and modernist apartments. The montage at the end of L'Eclisse predicts most of David Lynch. The way he uses sound too is very Lynchian: those strange extra-diegetic synthesized noises in Red Desert, anybody know who was responsible for those? Reminded me of Henri Chopin.

Buick6
06-07-2005, 05:50 AM
I only seen 'L'Aventura' and 'the blow up'...Their impact is expanded when seen in the cinemah - and good drugs. But make sure you're awake as you could easily snooze off.

owen
06-07-2005, 02:56 PM
dunno about that- went to see 'la notte' a couple of weeks ago and after 10 minutes thought 'oh no, i really am going to fall asleep through this'- and in the end i had stayed totally awake for the whole thing, interminable party scenes and all

i loved it (awesome modernist apartments), but do agree with something i read once about why people didn't 'get' antonioni in the USSR- 'why are all these rich people so bored?'

h-crimm
06-07-2005, 06:17 PM
it is a bit annoying how they are _all_ about rich people, i agree.
but at least these rich people outsiders to thier class normal, and at least some of them are sympathetic. its not wes anderson....

i love the shot where vitti pulls open the curtains at the beginning of l'eclisse and theres that bizarre toadstool building (left over from musolinis attempt to build a worlds fair in suburban rome). the view is so strange and also strangely disappointing.


i find his films like those long slow fall songs when you can feel your muscles willing the pace forward. if that makes any sense. not boring at all. your itching to get going but he holds you down, like being tied down at the best disco you've ever been to; uncomfortable, unexpected but you listen more attentively and you hear.


the red desert is incomprehensibly good as a first attempt at colour cinema. i really loved seeing that film.

i hate it when people say he is anti-modern, he has arguments against parts of 'modernity', but he's clearly fascinated as well. i like how deeply disappointed vitti is with alain delon's old fashioned appartment in l'eclisse.




ugh... uhhh too much

dominic
23-07-2005, 06:30 PM
i haven't seen l'eclisse -- and judging from everyone's top 10 lists, that's the one to see

i've rented l'avventura and the passenger, and i saw blow-up on big screen

not sure if i've seen any of his other stuff

but i love all that i've seen

(despite my complaints about The World, i tend to like slow-moving, meditative films that purport to reveal truth about the world -- claire denis, the new chinese films, etc -- that is, i'm a big fan of ambition on the big screen)

and generally think antonioni superior to fellini