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Woebot

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Sent this to Alex at the BackAgain Site:

Hi there,

I wrongly sent this to Haiko, I understand YOU are the NDW expert!!!

I'm a British journalist/writer/enthusiast.

I ran a website called WOEBOT, and now I run a forum called dissensus.
Among other things I write for The Wire.

I've been getting very into NDW over the past couple of years. Here's
what I've collected

• DAF 1st and Die Kleinen
• Pyrolator In/Aus
• Palais Schaumberg 1st
• Holger Hiller
• Abwarts
• Einsturzende Neubauten
• De Plan Geri/Norm
• Liasons Dangereuses
• Verschwende Deine Jugend: Punk und New Wave in Deutschland 1977-83
Comp
• Berlin 80 Comp
• Jochim Witt Edelweiss
• Les Vampyrettes

I'm thinking I'll check out the:
Als Die Partisanen Kamen compilation (no idea where to find a copy
though?)

Can you recommend me some things you think I might like? (I LOVE all
of the above....) It'd be a real favour.

If you're interested in trading I can send you some Grime, UK
Jungle/Hardcore. AvantGarde Music, Reggae, I have lots of stuff.

Anyway, get back to me. I love your website. Danke schon.

best
Matthew (London)

and i got this really fantastic reply back:

thanx for your mail and sorry fort he long delay in answering to it...I
have been on holiday some time.

You are right, I am very into NDW (which means nothing else than "German
New Wave" in fact).

It seems, that you are mostly interested in the less commercial
NDW-stuff, as I am too, so it will be no problem to give you some hints.

Here are a few bands, that possibly can interest you:

Atlantikschwimmer New Wave
Bal Pare Minimal Electro, fantastic!
Bärchen und die Milchbubis Wave-Punk
Blümchen Blau
Bernward Büker Bande
Camilla Motor poppy Wave
Camp Sophisto Wave
Caprifischer good Wave
Carmen Minimal-Electro
Deutscher Kaiser Minimal_Electro
Andreas Dorau /Die Doraus Und Die Marinas early stuff is great!
Eiskalte Engel
Extrabreit punky Pop
Fehlfarben 1st Album ist he best german record ever! Wave
Foyer des Arts early recordings are great Minimal-stuff
Geile Tiere arty Minimal-Wave
Geisterfahrer early records are best German New Wave
Grauzone one of the best NDW bands with Stephan Eicher
Ideal earliest Chart-NDW-band, good Wave
Matthias Schuster/Im Namen des Volkes brilliant!
Kapazität good Minimal-Wave
Kosmonautentraum
Krupps early stuff is like DAF
Lichtblick good Wave
Malaria/Mania D brilliant (female) Wave band, one of my favourites!
Mittageisen Minimal-Electro like Grauzone
Monopol very good NDW band
Neonbabies early band between punk and Wave
Nichts first two albums are great
Palais Schaumburg early singles and first LP are BIG, one of my faves
Profil good (Minimal-) Wave
Radierer Minimal-Electro-Wave-Punk
Recht Herzlich Minimal-Electro
Rheingold a bit like Kraftwerk, one of the first Chart NDW-bands
Stahlnetz really great and rare Minimal-Electro
Strafe für Rebellion like Einstürzende Neubauten
X Mal Deutschland first single is NDW, later they became a Gothic
legend
ExKurs great Wave

Maybe this list helps you a bit.

You should try to get the NDW Discography (book) by Ralf Strache and Kai
Eisenbläztter.
Try this emails of the authors:
xxxxxx@web.de (Ralf Strache)
xxxxxx@aol.com (Kai Eisenblätter)
The book features nearly all NDW releases ever. It´s in German language,
but the discography data is the best, you can get anywhere!


Here are some good websites (beside our own www.backagain.de ):
www.ichwillspass.de Links, discographies and more
http://www.christiankessler.de/ndwlisten.html discographies and more
http://www.punk-disco.com record listings and coverscans (section "Neue
Welle")
http://www.gesellschaftsinseln.de/punkbuch/index.html official site of
the book and CD "Verschwende Deine Jugend"
http://mitglied.lycos.de/RaFuchs/ndw label discographies and more


Labels which (Re-) Release NDW stuff
www.nlw.backagain.de our own label with CD releases of Matthias
Schuster and Exkurs - and forthcoming Westdeutsche Christen and
Kapazität and more
www.kernkrach.de Vinyl releases of real underground stuff from NDW
period
www.wsdp.de Vinyl releases of underground stuff from NDW period
www.vinyl-on-demand.com Vinyl releases of underground stuff from NDW
period
www.dauerblumen.de CD-R releases of old tapes from NDW period


Bands:
http://www.fehlfarben.com Fehlfarben
http://www.harryrag.com/harry1.htm SYPH
http://www.purefreude.de/deutsch.htm Pure Freude (Label)
http://www.die-radierer.de Radierer
http://media.hyperreal.org/zines/est/intervs/strafdis.html Strafe für
Rebellion Discography
http://www.die-toedliche-doris.de/en/der_siebenkoepfige_informator.asp
Tödliche Doris
http://www.friederbutzmann.de/disk.html Frieder Butzmann
http://www.die-breiten.de/index2.html Extrabreit
http://www.giorbino.de/seite2.html Andi Giorbino


Good compilations are
Als die Partisanen kamen
UntergruNDW
Verschwende Deine Jugend
Kassettentäter 1-? (LP Bootlegs, REALLY expensive)

You will find much stuff on www.ebay.de (section: musik/deutsche
interpreten/ndw)

I can record you a CD-R with some of my personal favourites, if you
like.

Check out our releases "Matthias Schuster - Atemlos" and "ExKurs -
Fakten Sind Terror" (MP3s on www.nlw.backagain.de (sectionTonträger)).

Hope this helps you a bit. NDW is very complicated to explain, so don´t
hesitate to ask about special bands, labels or anything else.

Greetinx from Hamburg/Germany

Alexander Pohle

Wicked!
 
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3underscore

Well-known member
Grauzone you can pick things up by quite easily on ebay. "Eisbar" has to be the one track by them that has been played extensively (nice 12" too) by optimo and the likes.

Krupps I have a few bits by - of the others I don't recognise too much off the top of my head. Have you picked up any of the Teutonik Disaster albums, Matt? They may be quite a nice reference point for you on this type of stuff.

*edit* - in searching for a link, it linked to some website called www.woebot.com - consider my little advice useless!
 
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soundslike1981

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I second Neonbabies. Their first record ranks just behind Slits and Raincoats, ahead of just about every other female-lead "arty" post-punk band. The second one is quite good, too--just got it this week.

I'm not holding my breath for a CD reissue.
 
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Ness Rowlah

Norwegian Wood
cheers Woe.

Do you still think Les Vampyrettes did "the best record ever"?
seem to recall reading something along those lines on your defunkt blog.
It is seriously good stuff. Wonder how many copies were sold?

Of the websites listed purefreude.de and die-todliche-doris.de
have complete MP3s for download.
 
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owen

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gott in himmel, etc

i have a thing by barchen und die milchbubies! its v good

sure I remember someone being mean here about the DJ Hell NDW comp- anyway, ignore that, it's icy, glassy proto-techno stuff for the most part and rivals 'verschwende' for me, so there.
 
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jimbackhouse

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didn't mean to slate it outright - there's some wicked tracks on there, it's just that it's a bit too skewed towards the 'cold-wave' / proto-ebm stuff than i'd like (in keeping with the gigolo esthetic).

it's definitely worth picking up, but i still reckon that 'verschwende...' is a better comp overall, and definitely a better starting point.
 
Woebot

Woebot

Well-known member
Ness Rowlah said:
Do you still think Les Vampyrettes did "the best record ever"?
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Yeah I love it. Its pure gabba. The Monoton LP may have taken its crown however as THEE best.
 
Woebot

Woebot

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joanofarctan said:
I'm no NDW expert but didn't see the recent Gomma Records retrospective compilation 'Teutonik Disaster' (vol. 1&2) listed anywhere.
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they're okay those gomma comps. a few really great tracks.

also the international gigolo comp probably deserves a mention too. what was it called? (digging through vinyl)

perhaps not on the same plateaux as the Verschwende Deine Jugend and Als Die Partisan Kamen comps???
 
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mms

sometimes
i got this album by palais schaumburg in the shop the other day and i was fucking really impressed - the band is basically a post punk band with world music inflections and dubiness and a kind of grey attempt at joy through it all - but check out the people in the band - moritz von oswald on vibes and thomas feldmann as well as stefan bauer the jazz musician, it all starts to click together , the same sort of people in germany were the same sort of people to kick start areas of the uk dance scene.
Also sonic groove records are re-releasing 12"s of new deutch stuff - pankow and click click are the first releases on a dedicated imprint called sonic groove experiment.
they're both wicked .
 
Woebot

Woebot

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mms said:
i got this album by palais schaumburg in the shop the other day and i was fucking really impressed - the band is basically a post punk band with world music inflections and dubiness and a kind of grey attempt at joy through it all - but check out the people in the band - moritz von oswald on vibes and thomas feldmann as well as stefan bauer the jazz musician, it all starts to click together , the same sort of people in germany were the same sort of people to kick start areas of the uk dance scene.
Also sonic groove records are re-releasing 12"s of new deutch stuff - pankow and click click are the first releases on a dedicated imprint called sonic groove experiment.
they're both wicked .
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that sounds like "luna". i had that one.

just got a vinyl copy of their debut sent over to me from Germany.

been pickling up this stuff solidly.

die krupps. giele tiere. matthias shuster. fehlfarben. asmus tietchens. foyer des arts. etc
 
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mms

sometimes
WOEBOT said:
that sounds like "luna". i had that one.

just got a vinyl copy of their debut sent over to me from Germany.

been pickling up this stuff solidly.

die krupps. giele tiere. matthias shuster. fehlfarben. asmus tietchens. foyer des arts. etc
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yeah the debut has been re-released as well - interesting stuff
 
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noel emits

a wonderful wooden reason
Picked up an album by Rotzkotz last year - Lebensfroh + Farbenfroh (on No Fun Records) - because the cover was great, and it was German, from 1981, and had synths and a picture of the bearded 'Toningenieur' on the back as well as the group. It's pretty good! Still quite punky - seems they'd been around for a while and 'went' Neu Wave synthtastic on this record (according to backagain.de). It isn't far-out / weird / ultracool NDW - more lively, daft and inventive with a little teutonic punk agro.

I'm sure they'll be roundly slagged by the real connoisseurs here, but I like it cos I found cheap and I can't afford all those amazing reissues. :(
 
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soundslike1981

Well-known member
I think I posted this elsewhere once, but it seems relevant for those in the NDW mood (and it recently got the not of approval from Weltklang, who asked me for a copy):


Various - 'How Do You Say "1981" in German?' (1981) [74:59]
download here

01- Neonbabies - Profi (1981) (3:51)
02- Absolute Body Control - Is There an Exit (1981) (4:09)
03- Grauzone - Ich Lieb Sie (1981) (3:16)
04- Palais Schaumburg - Gute Luft (1981) (2:38)
05- Beranek - Crystal Dream (1981) (3:23)
06- Geisterfahrer - Himmel auf Erden (1981) (1:56)
07- Pyrolator - Elefantendisco (1981) (3:10)
08- Klopferbande - Am Hauptfelsen (1981) (4:45)
09- Sudenten Geche - Are Kiss (1981) (3:19)
10- Din a Testbild - Logischer Gefrierpunkt (1981) (4:11)
11- Kitchen and The Plastic Spoons - Filmen (1981) (3:35)
12- Metro Pakt - Neue Strasen (1981) (2:40)
13- Kosmonautentraum - Kosmonautentraum 6 (1981) (1:12)
14- Mythos - Robot Secret Agents (1981) (3:05)
15- 1000 Ohm - AGNES (1981) (6:22)
16- Valerie Desperiez and Eric Abitol - Substance (1981) (3:18)
17- Deutsche Wertarbeit - Deutscher Wald (1981) (4:01)
18- Matthias Schuster - Schlaglichter (1981) (2:38)
19- Van Kaye and Ignit - Opera of Worms (1981) (3:59)
20- Starter - Part of You (1981) (3:10)
21- Exkurs - Fakten (1981) (3:55)
22- Weltklang - Veb Heimat (1981) (2:26
 
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labrat

hot on the heels of love
the above download is excellent -Mythos - Robot Secret Agents is fine stuff (all together now "rabbit secret agunts") as is this but I bet most posting on here will be aware of it's greatness by now...
 
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