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Woebot
18-11-2004, 07:04 AM
Saw Jon Ronson's "Crazy Rulers of the Earth" on telly the other night. I'm quite a fan of his knowing pile-up of conspiracy theory and humour.

The episode was about "Funny Torture" and's central focus was on the fact the fact that US Psyops have been playing Iraqi detainee's the song from Barney and The Sesame Street theme. Actually it seems the reason children's music is used is owing to chinese whispers within the military establishment. The First Earth Batallion, a kind of post-Vietnam Hippy R'n'D outfit posited the use of such music so as to mollify/pacify/emotionally disarm the enemy (other tactics of theirs include soldiers entering enemy territory holding new-born lambs, you get the picture...)

On the face of it there seemed to be no precise reason why such music was used, especially as the colonel who designed the original intentions for such music's use certainly didnt specify it's use at massive decibels and over protracted periods of time. Horrific photos showed Iraqi prisoners emerging, appallingly disturbed from containers wherein they'd been locked for days upon end being blasted by, as well as the forementioned, country rock by Matchbox 20 (?)

It seemed literally ANY music would have done the trick.

Woebot
18-11-2004, 07:43 AM
Ronson also explored the connections between the First Earth Batallion and composer Steven Halpern (kind of a low budget Terry Riley)

http://www.innerpeacemusic.com/

Halpern reminds me of one of my cartoon characters "Alphonse Rhizome" i'll post the comic at www.woebot.com (http://www.woebot.com) tonight...

Rambler
18-11-2004, 09:15 AM
Yeesh. 30 seconds of Matchbox 20 would have done the trick for most people...

Woebot
18-11-2004, 12:10 PM
Yeesh. 30 seconds of Matchbox 20 would have done the trick for most people...
ronson made quite a huge play of people laughing about the barney thing (spoke to it's composer who, between chuckles, wanted to know if he could get royalties off the army!) he then had it intercut with the torture victems suffering. it was pretty crude, but there's no escaping the deathly humour of the situation. i think even ronson recognised that...

Woebot
19-11-2004, 12:20 PM
goin solo on this thread http://www.dissensus.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

<a href="http://www.woebot.com/download/rhizome.zip">Alphonze Rhizome.</a>

Did no-one else see this programme? http://www.dissensus.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

sufi
19-11-2004, 01:06 PM
yeah i saw the 1st 1 & bits of pt2,

i don't really get jonronson ,
he has this flippant attitude that undermines whatever he says,
it's like his journalism is to sloppy (or maybe the conspiracy is too impenetrable) for him to make any real points, so he kinda dicks about, stirs up a lot of wierdness then flakes out...

his article in the observer (http://www.guardian.co.uk/weekend/story/0,,1343575,00.html) was a little bit more pinned down
but he still seems to undermine himself by using glib titles...

what's up with him eh? wierdo.............

rewch
19-11-2004, 02:13 PM
watched pt2 partly with sufi, but reckon that ronson is just attempting to make himself as innoccuous as possible to let the subject/interviewee speak for it/themself/ves...doesn't want to do a john simpson liberating kabul-style thing nor a broomfield new journalist-type action but let the subject dig their own hole...saw the one he did on abu hamza where he limited himself to anodyne commentary & let hamza create the perspective of the programme...hamza caricatured himself exceptionally well - bit of a comic genius really...on the other hand i prefer a bit of pilgerist provocatism

mms
19-11-2004, 06:28 PM
well the US used zz top to oust noreiga from his bunker

also this is an new move in the us sonic weapondry idea, they've already given the troops the pulsing weapon that they had on the programme, but this is totally insane


bbc.co.uk/radio3/betweentheears/pip/onzam

"Introducing Colonel Walter Manley, soon to be a Rummy
Deputy, with his plans for a new "non-lethal" weapon
that uses bible belt prayer networks to energize an
acoustic summoning of the Voice of God on the field of
battle. Joshua shouted "glory" and the walls came
tumbling down. Coming soon, to a holyland near you."

the other thing in psyc ops was operation stargate the $20 million 20 year long operation into investigatigating and using parapsychology and remote viewing, the main dude now runs a thing called the monroe institute a new age center based loosley around the ideas of dr hans berger who found the frequencies of brain activity.
monroe's tool "hemi sync audio technology" is also part of the whole sound as a weapon/controller that the first earth battalion were into

yyaldrin
19-03-2019, 09:33 AM
Mystery of sonic weapon attacks at US embassy in Cuba deepens - https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/sep/14/mystery-of-sonic-weapon-attacks-at-us-embassy-in-cuba-deepens

i think that got debunked a while ago, just another absurd claim/red scare meant to discredit cuba

luka
19-03-2019, 10:50 AM
i think that got debunked a while ago, just another absurd claim/red scare meant to discredit cuba

Really? Yesterday I saw a claim that the same thing is happening in Red China.

yyaldrin
19-03-2019, 10:53 AM
Really? Yesterday I saw a claim that the same thing is happening in Red China.

yeh don't worry it's nonsense

luka
19-03-2019, 10:54 AM
yeh don't worry it's nonsense

That's equally interesting though.

droid
19-03-2019, 11:17 AM
It was crickets. Fucking crickets.


In January 2019, a study by Alexander Stubbs, from the University of California, concluded that the sounds in a recording of one of the purported sonic attacks were produced by the Indies short-tailed cricket (Anurogryllus celerinictus, in the family Anurogryllus). He based the conclusion on recordings of the sound, comparing them to recordings of the cricket, writing, "the calling song of the Indies short-tailed cricket (Anurogryllus celerinictus) matches, in nuanced detail, the AP recording in duration, pulse repetition rate, power spectrum, pulse rate stability, and oscillations per pulse. . . . This provides strong evidence that an echoing cricket call, rather than a sonic attack is responsible...". [51] His conclusion was comparable to a 2017 hypothesis from Cuban scientists that the Jamaican field cricket was responsible.[52][53][54]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Havana_syndrome

yyaldrin
19-03-2019, 11:36 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OP6JGlv32nw
shut up u s a
& let god's chorus play

luka
19-03-2019, 04:39 PM
The thought of it being down to crickets is more frightening than a sonic attack, imo. You're more likely to be exposed to crickets during your lifetime.

There's no reason to accept that explanation. If you dont like it, reject it. This is international intrigue and espionage we are talking about here. What might crickets be code for? Use your imagination. Paranoia is your ally.

luka
19-03-2019, 05:02 PM
No. I own it but it was too boring. Hopefully the price will go up astronomically and I can make a huge profit.