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Blackdown
27-08-2005, 11:15 AM
At Blackdownsoundboy.blogspot.com (http://www.blackdownsoundboy.blogspot.com/)

mms
27-08-2005, 11:17 AM
just read it - ace mate .
its interesting to see to read his personal history/entry points and influences other other people who are making garage/grime etc.

are you going to interview terrah danjah again at all ?
he seems to be a producers producer , an incredible innovator but in this kind of almost timbaland linage in his approach with all the trademarks and ticks, and the way he works with girl singers and mcs.
he almost straddles grime and croydon garage as well, in that dubstep people are big into him and his productions are far from basic.

Blackdown
27-08-2005, 11:18 AM
cheers marcus!

Blackdown
27-08-2005, 12:36 PM
are you going to interview terrah danjah again at all ?
he seems to be a producers producer , an incredible innovator but in this kind of almost timbaland linage in his approach with all the trademarks and ticks, and the way he works with girl singers and mcs.
he almost straddles grime and croydon garage as well, in that dubstep people are big into him and his productions are far from basic.

hmm. i dunno. i spoke to terror at length a couple of months ago for the first time in ages. i do rate him, and i know Kode 9 particularly feels his tunes, but right now i'm not sure you could single him out over say Wiley, Ruff Sqwad, Mizz Beats, Target, Shotz, DaVinche, Danny Weed or Footsie in terms of production ideas right now. that said i suspect he may be coming with some more dancefloor riddims after the r&g thing.

also you mention timbaland but to me what's unique about terror v say target's beats is not the influence of timbaland but the influence of jungle.

mms
27-08-2005, 12:46 PM
hmm. i dunno. i spoke to terror at length a couple of months ago for the first time in ages. i do rate him, and i know Kode 9 particularly feels his tunes, but right now i'm not sure you could single him out over say Wiley, Ruff Sqwad, Mizz Beats, Target, Shotz, DaVinche, Danny Weed or Footsie in terms of production ideas right now. that said i suspect he may be coming with some more dancefloor riddims after the r&g thing.

also you mention timbaland but to me what's unique about terror v say target's beats is not the influence of timbaland but the influence of jungle.

yeah i'm not singling him out over anyone and i get what you are saying about jungle - the way he layers beats over each other and places the bass etc, the timbaland thing comes from his trade use of sounds and the cackling noise etc, its not like he's been influenced by timbaland as a producer ,you hear that more in say underground in the use of space and noise and the almost electro thing its the working manner.
that jungle thing is the interesting axis tho - as skreamz was saying and i know alot of the croydon lot were big junglists .

hint
27-08-2005, 01:02 PM
Great interview. I'll check the mix tonight.

Tactics
27-08-2005, 01:25 PM
.....balanced (I guess lol) read. Well done man. 800 tunes?!?!?!?!?!? F*** man.

scarboi
27-08-2005, 02:34 PM
I think its really interesting how all the post jungle/ post garage scenes tend to trade their musical make up back and forth. I didn't get into dubstep until it started incorporating more melodic elements ie synths with chord changes. Early Dubstep of the Mark One variety just bored me shitless, no offense to the man, he's done a lot for the music just by getting it into IDM fan's hands.

I always liked the Plasticman dark techsteppy grime, especially when it got more ambient.

Londons just this huge multicultural stew of influences, it keeps kicking out all these different mutations.

I love it when dubstep and grime producers trade ideas, personally I think its the future of both sounds.


Y'know FWD and all that.

Just can't seem to get that into breakstep or broken beat for some reason.

Toasty Boys alright I guess.


But Yeah, major ups to Skream, and Blackdown.

Logan Sama
27-08-2005, 06:24 PM
http://logansama.blogspot.com/2005/08/project-preview.html

DJ-Distinction
27-08-2005, 06:27 PM
Big up Martin Clark and massive shout going out to Skream absolute legend!

Will never ever forget that bus journey from Brixton to Croyden after DMZ guy almost seriously killed me with laughter.

Big up once again !

micmack
27-08-2005, 08:01 PM
enjoyed the interview, love the mix
cheers

minikomi
28-08-2005, 06:11 AM
He was so hot. He looked like he was wearing a scuba diving outfit.

I GET IT!

BENGA = SCUBA!

big interview. big mix. amazing.

mms
28-08-2005, 11:26 AM
He was so hot. He looked like he was wearing a scuba diving outfit.

I GET IT!

BENGA = SCUBA!
.

blimey do you read those bible code books and believe their significance too ;)

machine hugger
29-08-2005, 09:50 AM
blimey do you read those bible code books and believe their significance too ;)

huh???

countryman
29-08-2005, 11:19 AM
Mix is stupid. Great interview!

mms
29-08-2005, 04:42 PM
huh???

i mean a knife a bag and a potato is not a packet of crisps. :cool:

machine hugger
30-08-2005, 10:44 AM
unless you fry 'em. ;)

Grievous Angel
30-08-2005, 01:33 PM
Great interview.

Just wanna say, just before I left London, when 2step was winding down, the sound I always went big for was Hatcha's DJ sets on Upfront... just so deep, so dubby, really abstract but focused on the bass. Music that took its "pop" reference point from Groove Chronicles' Black Puppet and went darkside from there.

Hatcha's a hero, really vital node in the scene.

One moment I'll never forget, parking the car outside the house in Brixton, dark, Hatcha on the radio, the waves of bass rolling down the street, this amazing sense of huge forces in perfect balance, perfect peace...

Blackdown
30-08-2005, 03:01 PM
^ 2stepfan otm

Grievous Angel
01-09-2005, 07:35 AM
I think this Skream mix would be, if released, one of the ten best records of the year.

mms
01-09-2005, 09:04 AM
I think this Skream mix would be, if released, one of the ten best records of the year.

you heard the tempa dubstep allstars 2 by naughty dj youngsta
got it in shop like - its rad - sold quite a few of them and everyone goes 'whats this?'

Grievous Angel
01-09-2005, 09:24 AM
you heard the tempa dubstep allstars 2 by naughty dj youngsta
got it in shop like - its rad - sold quite a few of them and everyone goes 'whats this?'
I noticed you had it, big yself up, it's in my basket. I want your shop to be THE place where non-cognoscenti can buy their Grime / Dubstep CD. (You need track listings in the info box though! Amazon-style samples would be good too.)

Dubstep is in good form right now after a period of being somewhat stern.

See also the Forensics mix which is threaded elsewhere -- very, very strong, banging dubby electronics, very Croydon but not too IDM.

As ever, all this stuff is vastly improved by the addition of ragga vocals, esp female ones, but that's true of every genre ever invented.

I liked Skream's "The Blackdown Mix" so much I blogged it extensively, for me it's a landmark release.

Watch out for ever-increasing dynamic tension between the Grime scene's micro-localism (as described by Blackdown) and the "insularity" described by K-Punk (a tension Matt, Luka and Simon wrote about two years ago!). By which I mean -- check the Rossi B and Luca Rinse show (also seperately threaded). How many future classics are on there that should be getting a proper airing?

Anyway. It's only disco...

mms
01-09-2005, 12:05 PM
I noticed you had it, big yself up, it's in my basket. I want your shop to be THE place where non-cognoscenti can buy their Grime / Dubstep CD. (You need track listings in the info box though! Amazon-style samples would be good too.)

Dubstep is in good form right now after a period of being somewhat stern.

See also the Forensics mix which is threaded elsewhere -- very, very strong, banging dubby electronics, very Croydon but not too IDM.

As ever, all this stuff is vastly improved by the addition of ragga vocals, esp female ones, but that's true of every genre ever invented.

I liked Skream's "The Blackdown Mix" so much I blogged it extensively, for me it's a landmark release.

Watch out for ever-increasing dynamic tension between the Grime scene's micro-localism (as described by Blackdown) and the "insularity" described by K-Punk (a tension Matt, Luka and Simon wrote about two years ago!). By which I mean -- check the Rossi B and Luca Rinse show (also seperately threaded). How many future classics are on there that should be getting a proper airing?

Anyway. It's only disco...


i reckon i've got whats wrong with the site and i'm bang on it getting an amazing new one made.
its a bain though .
getting more and more dubsteppy stuff on the site but have slightly less luck with the grime stuff - dealing direct is the benefit tho

Blackdown
01-09-2005, 12:23 PM
if you wanna hear more skream bits live n loud it's DMZ04 this weekend in brixton... oh plus it's jammer at FWD tonight too.

mms
01-09-2005, 12:23 PM
if you wanna hear more skream bits live n loud it's DMZ04 this weekend in brixton...


will be there !

Grievous Angel
01-09-2005, 12:36 PM
would like to go but... babies to cuddle tonight :)

Marcus, there's a lot of value in that UI though... happy to help with spec for redesign / commercials & biz modelling etc.