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baboon2004
27-11-2004, 03:10 PM
Well, is this lady making some of the most amazing music anywhere right now (in tandem of course with the leagues of on-fire Jamaican riddim-makers) or what? Just found this track 'Me No Want Dat' (on the 'Bad Man Ting' riddim, apparently), and it is just staggering - the chorus is bizarrely Bananarama-goes-dancehall, Ce'Cile weighs in with a few gorgeous vocal licks, and the piano breakdown is fucking beautiful. Next level shit, f'real.

I now tend to keep up with the dancehall scene by getting hold of as many of her versions as possible. Maybe it's personal preference, but her sexy and oh-so-pop counterpoint to the baritone gruffness of most male MCs is so refreshing. To mention just a few, she does amazing things on Chrome, Violin, Cure, First Class and Safe Sex, not to mention Coolie Dance.

Really, by all rights, Ce'Cile should be a HUGE pop star.

mpc
27-11-2004, 04:19 PM
she's very good on coolie dance.

that's all i've heard.

DavidD
28-11-2004, 06:21 AM
"Hot Like We" is top ten for me this year.

originaldrum
28-11-2004, 10:00 AM
her lovin it track (the version on maximum sound - the chizzle riddim) is nangle

baboon2004
28-11-2004, 03:01 PM
Just discovered Kokane riddim (from 2002, musta missed it) - great technoid dancehall action.

Hadean
28-11-2004, 03:14 PM
the sexiest voice

"Wine & Dine" is my fave on Spanish Fly (and in my Top 5 of the year?)

"man hav fi wine & dine me
tek out checkbook and sign me
im haf fi gi-we-wah-we-want
or im nah get di nnany"

her voice is so irresistible on the track
that a lot of men probably reacting "I say I won't go low, but for CeCile I just don't know..."

jk_gabba
28-11-2004, 04:45 PM
Anyone recomend any other Female MCs?

Hadean
28-11-2004, 05:00 PM
Macka Diamond (ex-Mackeral), of course

makes men quake in their boots (haha image!)
cos they won't measure up to her quite basic standards

"Pum Pum Finger", on Kasablanca, is a riot - sounds like The Slits or something

stelfox
28-11-2004, 07:07 PM
I've interviewed Ce'Cile a couple of times and she's a great person as well as a superb artist

(If anyone's interested http://enjoyment.independent.co.uk/music/features/story.jsp?story=563944 and http://www.guardian.co.uk/arts/features/story/0%2C11710%2C1120799%2C00.html - the last one from The Guardian was given a real wack edit, repeated words and shit everywhere, but it was a good piece before it got fucked about with. You'll just have to trust me on that and I'm surprised they ran it at all, anyway.)

My favourite tunes by her this year are "When We Are Seen" on the Military rhythm and "The Thing" with Beenie Man on the Dancehall Rock...

Hmmm, I'm a bit iffy about Macka Diamond. She's okay but has less balls than Lady Saw and none of Ce'Cile or Tanya Stephens' smarts. Tanya's definitely the wittiest, most creative female lyricist right now and I'm loving "Female Pimping" and "Gangster Ride", on the Katana and Indian Summer rhythms. Although she has a long way to go i kinda like Ms Thing, too. Her album was way too early and didn't stand up, but she's wicked on the Tighty Tighty and "Modelling" is a pretty fab track. For pop/dancehall crossover, you really can't beat Nina Sky. She absolutely rules Black Chiney's Kopa rhythm.

originaldrum
29-11-2004, 06:17 AM
italee is big on tunes like 'slow jam' & 'bad gyal'

mms
29-11-2004, 06:19 PM
"Hot Like We" is top ten for me this year.

yeah it's lush, red alert riddim was ace as well.

baboon2004
29-11-2004, 11:18 PM
Must reiterate - Ce'cile's 'Love U Got' on Kokane is coming across as the 'Southern Hospitality' of dancehall - or is this one of those records I go crazy over that no-one else gets?

stelfox
30-11-2004, 09:37 AM
Must reiterate - Ce'cile's 'Love U Got' on Kokane is coming across as the 'Southern Hospitality' of dancehall - or is this one of those records I go crazy over that no-one else gets?

it's good, but just a bit old now. people might welll have been going similarly nuts about it a couple of years ago.

baboon2004
30-11-2004, 03:02 PM
Yeh, I kinda ignored dancehall for a few years back there, so missed out on hundreds and hundreds of riddims, until the time Diwali blew up. Are there any similar dancehall-goes-techno riddims I should know about?

MolexRoots
03-12-2004, 10:38 AM
New female vocalist Tami is going to be big. Check Stepz and Highty Tighty for a couple great pieces. Macka is slowly creepy up my leaderboard of favourite deejays. The chune on Wine Your Waistline (see my site if ya want a taster) with Capleton is superb. Capleton's bits seem a little off key, dodgy recording it seems?

Rambler
03-12-2004, 12:40 PM
Totally agree - Ce'Cile is great; any thoughts on why she's not breaking through?

stelfox
03-12-2004, 02:21 PM
yeah the only problem is that macka is just not very smart.

baboon2004
15-05-2009, 03:23 PM
Update please!

I've over-listened to my 2002-5 Ce'cile collection (actually, that's not possible), and am seeking some more female sass over hypnotic riddims...

john eden
15-05-2009, 03:42 PM
Avoid Tanya Stephens' "Rebelution" is all I can say.

Queen Ifrica is worth checking tho, but more rootical less bashy.

zhao
15-05-2009, 04:07 PM
on a UK nostalgia tip, anyone feel some of those old school steppa sounds femcee's like Aisha, Christine Miller, Sister Audrey, Donette Forte, Mada Nile, Sister Rasheda, Audrey Hall, Dayjah and the Disciples, Debaura Star, Deborah Glasgow, Empress Ayeola, Sistah Joyce, Jennifer Lara, Malika Madremana, Sis Nya, Jennifer Romeo, Sis Sanae... ?

john eden
15-05-2009, 04:10 PM
on a UK nostalgia tip, anyone feel some of those old school steppa sounds femcee's like Aisha, Christine Miller, Sister Audrey, Donette Forte, Mada Nile, Sister Rasheda, Audrey Hall, Dayjah and the Disciples, Debaura Star, Deborah Glasgow, Empress Ayeola, Sistah Joyce, Jennifer Lara, Malika Madremana, Sis Nya, Jennifer Romeo, Sis Sanae... ?

Yes.

baboon2004
15-05-2009, 04:19 PM
Avoid Tanya Stephens' "Rebelution" is all I can say.


Hmm, yes. I saw her live shortly after this came out - v disappointing.

Grievous Angel
15-05-2009, 04:19 PM
Never heard of them but they're probably fab.

zhao
15-05-2009, 04:22 PM
Yes.

where are the british femcee's like these of today?!?!?!

and why aren't they lending a much needed hand to dubstep???? (in terms of sensuality and the female touch)

i mean i can imagine Aisha voicing over some deep tech dub even wobble riddims. it'd be sick.

zhao
15-05-2009, 04:25 PM
Never heard of them but they're probably fab.

i don't know much about them either but it seems to be a chapter of UK reggae not often talked about, that of the "Sister Sounds". conscious rootsy but heavy productions from i think 80s (and 90s?)

john eden
15-05-2009, 04:36 PM
Deborah Glasgow - RIP

Sister Audrey - recently seen in Lez Lyrix documentary, so I assume still working

Jennifer Lara - Jamaican, was present when Coxsone died.

Christine Miller, Sister Rasheda - still doing UK dub I think

Audrey Hall - Jamaican - dunno

Aisha - still does stuff with Mad Prof I think?!

You've also got Warrior Queen, Ava Leigh, Lady Lex, Queen Omega, Sandra Cross, Sista Beloved, Cherine Anderson, Sister Miriam, Sister Olida, Special A.

john eden
15-05-2009, 04:37 PM
It is much under documented, possibly because the roots boys aren't soon keen on that end of things. I got vague plans tho...

john eden
15-05-2009, 04:43 PM
Hmm, yes. I saw her live shortly after this came out - v disappointing.

It all went a bit coffee table, didn't it?

Maybe someone will come along and do a funky house refix of one of her tunes or something... ;)

zhao
15-05-2009, 04:55 PM
what i was actually wondering was where is the new generation of UK female reggae vocalists... i want to hear singing like back in the day, over half step.

john eden
15-05-2009, 05:52 PM
Ava Leigh, Lady Lex, Queen Omega, Sista Beloved, Sister Miriam, Sister Olida,

all newish afaik

baboon2004
15-05-2009, 06:40 PM
It all went a bit coffee table, didn't it?

Maybe someone will come along and do a funky house refix of one of her tunes or something... ;)

I liked "These Streets", but the rest wasn't so great. Shoulda been warned by "Way Back", which, though a great song in itself, betrayed her retro leanings rather too much...

Algierstwin
15-05-2009, 10:12 PM
okay, this isnt by a girl. . .

but seeing as all the dancehall'ers are surely here.

whats the bait dancehall tune that goes ' never never never never etc. . "

I hear it at the raves where you cant just go up to the deejay and ask.

muser
16-05-2009, 12:32 AM
I'm really liking Lexie Lee's tunes at the moment, Killa Queenz have done some good stuff aswell.