Third world cinema.

Light Touch

The Pho Eater
I'm interested in everyone's favorites in third-world cinema...top 10 list, anyone?

I'll post one soon. I'm thinking Asian, Middle Eastern, Latin American, African, Indian, etc. Non-English-speaking.
 

Light Touch

The Pho Eater
Aight, no takers. Here's my 10 (alphabetical).

Audition - Japan - 1999
City of God - Brazil - 2002
Oldboy - Korea - 2003
Possible Loves - Brazil - 2001
Rashomon - Japan - 1950
The Road Home - China - 1999
The Seven Samurai - Japan - 1954
Shiri - Korea - 1999
Tae Guk Gi: The Brotherhood of War - Korea - 2004
Y Tu Mama Tambien - Mexico - 2001
 

sufi

lala
light touch said:
I'm not a retard.
how can we tell?

the way you express yourself is the only way for us to judge & your reactionary stand on the transport thread did make me wonder ??
i would have responded to this thread as i find most hollywood films unwatchable, but i found the way you phrased the question to be idiotic.

retard is also borderline offensive btw
 

h-crimm

Well-known member
i dont think i'd even describe city of god as third world. just because of its very polished production and its mentality which almost paralells those brit ganster flicks...
it seems to be concieved to be about those people but not for them. it's therefore a film about the third world made by and for the first-world part of society (its for upperclass {westernised} brazilians and westerners, isnt it?).
anyway first world / third world is pretty moribund

i dont really want to over criticise this accidental terminology of the title.
i'd rather hear more about films from the developing world, and even more about films made by people excluded from the high cost commercial cinema.
audition is the least third world film in the world, its entirely about the horror of modern japan's western style commercialised life isnt it? not that i liked it anyway :) sorry

surely now is the time that there should be an explosion of cinema of the working classes (/by/ the working class not /for/ them) because of the low price of dv.
thats what i thought when i saw "third world" in the thread's title. cinema equivalents of baile, kwaito and all those things
 

mms

sometimes
h-crimm said:
i dont think i'd even describe city of god as third world. just because of its very polished production and its mentality which almost paralells those brit ganster flicks...
it seems to be concieved to be about those people but not for them. it's therefore a film about the third world made by and for the first-world part of society (its for upperclass {westernised} brazilians and westerners, isnt it?).

http://www.kamera.co.uk/reviews_extra/city_of_god.php
interesting review that kind of agrees with what you say, i don't entirley agree


well it's made in the third world with people from favelas, regardless of whether it resonates with brit gangster flicks and is well produced, it's still produced directed and stars people from the third world. the way it does resonate has been it's merits within the big cinema circuits, so it's a successful third world film as it works on the tropes of stylish 90's cinema

it's not ousmane sembene which has very specific auteurist motives and cultural perogatives and it's not got the revolutionary fervour of iranian cinema at the moment, but it's still a third world film discussing third world problems, and it's no less a third world film cos it looks flashy.



h-crimm said:
anyway first world / third world is pretty moribund

it's bloody not!! :)
 
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mms

sometimes
h-crimm said:
audition is the least third world film in the world, its entirely about the horror of modern japan's western style commercialised life isnt it?


yeah from what i can gather alot of jap horror seems to be a kind of techno horror, fear and horror about technology and the alienation of modern communication, the internet etc..
 

h-crimm

Well-known member
mms said:
well it's made in the third world with people from favelas,
...
it's still a third world film discussing third world problems, and it's no less a third world film cos it looks flashy.

h-crimm said:
then i said something about thirdworld / firstworld being an outmoded description

it's bloody not!! :)

what i meant was that a nation by nation break down of who is rich and who is poor which is implied by first world /third world (maybe only to my mind...) is a bit old. It doesnt admit the fact that there are bigger disparities than ever between rich and poor within each country, and that this trend for polarisation is the same in first world USA as it is in brazil china or india. the brazilia and new hampshire elites are more similar to each other than to calumet city or cidade de deus or whereever, arnt they?



i would contest the statement that the film really is made by people from the third world, certainly the cameramen, all the technical crew the director and producers were not the products of the favelas. the 'real' people (you kno who i mean... thats a joke by the way) have as little control over the fictionalised ghetto as they do over thier real homes. and the stars certainly have a stake in going along with a palettable marketable representation of thier lives, designed by the middle class professionals who have access to the equipment and money. the flashyness doesnt stop it being good, but it does point to the origin of the crapness,
it's probably also the case for unemployed sidelined frustrated young men this sort of dream of themselves as hot untouchable, uhmmm, gangsters is very appealing. so the film / tv-series is probably big even in places it willfully misrepresents... (just covering my back incase you have statistics!)
like the idea of skepta having a gun and being willing to pop off shots is obviously popular, however much it is clearly imaginary.
then again i've never seen inside skeptas boxers so maybe if he's wearing a glove....
and ive never grown up in a favela or visited one so maybe its spot on. if so it looks like a lot of fun.

i dont think its a bad pop film, but its not a third world film and i dont think it's meant to discuss issues.
 

Light Touch

The Pho Eater
sufi said:
how can we tell?

the way you express yourself is the only way for us to judge & your reactionary stand on the transport thread did make me wonder ??
i would have responded to this thread as i find most hollywood films unwatchable, but i found the way you phrased the question to be idiotic.

retard is also borderline offensive btw

Idiotic isn't offensive?

Split hairs how you choose.
 

Light Touch

The Pho Eater
The third world classification was weak, I'll admit.

But traditionally, Brazil would be considered a third-world country, tho its reach on the international economic stage is significant these days.

Japan is not third world. It is non-Western.
 
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