mms said:
well it's made in the third world with people from favelas,
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it's still a third world film discussing third world problems, and it's no less a third world film cos it looks flashy.
h-crimm said:
then i said something about thirdworld / firstworld being an outmoded description
it's bloody not!!
what i meant was that a nation by nation break down of who is rich and who is poor which is implied by first world /third world (maybe only to my mind...) is a bit old. It doesnt admit the fact that there are bigger disparities than ever between rich and poor within each country, and that this trend for polarisation is the same in first world USA as it is in brazil china or india. the brazilia and new hampshire elites are more similar to each other than to calumet city or cidade de deus or whereever, arnt they?
i would contest the statement that the film really is made by people from the third world, certainly the cameramen, all the technical crew the director and producers were not the products of the favelas. the 'real' people (you kno who i mean... thats a joke by the way) have as little control over the fictionalised ghetto as they do over thier real homes. and the stars certainly have a stake in going along with a palettable marketable representation of thier lives, designed by the middle class professionals who have access to the equipment and money. the flashyness doesnt stop it being good, but it does point to the origin of the crapness,
it's probably also the case for unemployed sidelined frustrated young men this sort of dream of themselves as hot untouchable, uhmmm, gangsters is very appealing. so the film / tv-series is probably big even in places it willfully misrepresents... (just covering my back incase you have statistics!)
like the idea of skepta having a gun and being willing to pop off shots is obviously popular, however much it is clearly imaginary.
then again i've never seen inside skeptas boxers so maybe if he's wearing a glove....
and ive never grown up in a favela or visited one so maybe its spot on. if so it looks like a lot of fun.
i dont think its a bad pop film, but its not a third world film and i dont think it's meant to discuss issues.