...or grime...??
This one is running on the rwd forum, so thought I'd push for some thoughs here.
Crazy Titich (taken from rwd thread):
"It seems like everyone is trying to find their own bit and do their own thing. You got Wiley doing his eski thing, some people are doing sublow and all that jazz. But I got an idea, how about we just call it garage. Let's make it simple. When you say grime it does carry bad things, if I'm a yout and I'm going to a grime rave, what mentality do you think I'm going with? It's a crime rave. I'm going to be grimey. People don't understand the power of words.".
(Tense, Nov 2004)
Personally I also much prefer to call it 'garage'. 'Grime' feels wierd to say (and I do occasionally use it). It's use seems to be robbing the scene of its history, inviting people in who will not swing with something that lets say has Craig David or (even) So Solid connotations. Back in the UK Dance day, we had big threads about scenes being 'bagged', 'garage' becoming 'speed garage', then '2 step' and before that 'jungle' becoming 'd'n'b'. Maybe those fanatical debates about the naming of splinter dance scenes all a bit quaint now, but maybe today's antitode to that is to stick an old label onto something which is constantly changing (maybe also an antitode to marketing - i.e. the same badge for a constantly evolving/improving product). I love the fact that 'garage' describes so much music, and I mean that in just the London massive post 96 sense!
This one is running on the rwd forum, so thought I'd push for some thoughs here.
Crazy Titich (taken from rwd thread):
"It seems like everyone is trying to find their own bit and do their own thing. You got Wiley doing his eski thing, some people are doing sublow and all that jazz. But I got an idea, how about we just call it garage. Let's make it simple. When you say grime it does carry bad things, if I'm a yout and I'm going to a grime rave, what mentality do you think I'm going with? It's a crime rave. I'm going to be grimey. People don't understand the power of words.".
(Tense, Nov 2004)
Personally I also much prefer to call it 'garage'. 'Grime' feels wierd to say (and I do occasionally use it). It's use seems to be robbing the scene of its history, inviting people in who will not swing with something that lets say has Craig David or (even) So Solid connotations. Back in the UK Dance day, we had big threads about scenes being 'bagged', 'garage' becoming 'speed garage', then '2 step' and before that 'jungle' becoming 'd'n'b'. Maybe those fanatical debates about the naming of splinter dance scenes all a bit quaint now, but maybe today's antitode to that is to stick an old label onto something which is constantly changing (maybe also an antitode to marketing - i.e. the same badge for a constantly evolving/improving product). I love the fact that 'garage' describes so much music, and I mean that in just the London massive post 96 sense!