next grime mc to get a deal?
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Logan Sama
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No one is getting an album deal for ages.
originaldrum
from start till done
sadly true
Constance Labounty
Down since 1999
Everyone always says this but why not? Aren't labels always looking for the next big thing? Do they think not enough people listen to grime? Like, to me, grime is clearly one of the biggest developments in music recently. So is it actually not? I just don't get it...Logan Sama said:
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simon silverdollar
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i could see Bashy being marketable- funny, clever, smooth and talented but not too 'weird' with his flow- could be the next kano...
bassnation
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Blackdown said:
this is ludicrous. people buy shitloads of hip hop in this country, it doesn't take a genius to see that grime could be massive.
Logan Sama
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Independant releases are the way forward, because sadly we have seen that unless you fall into the boyband mould of marketing, UK A&Rs have no idea how to deal with anyone who makes Grime.
They have had years and years of releasing US Hip Hop yes, but the US acts have had years of marketing and releases before they ever set foot in the UK. UK labels have to do nothing more than sign cheques for licensing to Americans, nothing more.
But it is good because it will force us to take responsibility for ourselves and not allow majors to simply suck money out of the music due to our own artists inability to do things themselves and taking the easy route. There is no easy route now.
They have had years and years of releasing US Hip Hop yes, but the US acts have had years of marketing and releases before they ever set foot in the UK. UK labels have to do nothing more than sign cheques for licensing to Americans, nothing more.
But it is good because it will force us to take responsibility for ourselves and not allow majors to simply suck money out of the music due to our own artists inability to do things themselves and taking the easy route. There is no easy route now.
borderpolice
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bassnation said:
hiphop has almost 30 years of marketing and infrastructure building behind it. and in the biggest unified music marked in the world too. mainstream hiphop sales elsewhere are parasitic upon this. in addition, vocal music by vocalists with non american accents is too unlikely to succeed in the US market long term, hence there will not be enough promotional efforts for grime to succeed in the US, and nobody else has the marketing muscle to push grime big time.
i'm optimistic but fexpecting to get signed to a major is not the one., not in this current climate anyway, with more and more larger indies acting like majors too its time for them to get d.i.r.t.y, do it right together yourself, networks, allies, infrastructures, soldiers, battle.
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captain easychord
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i don't see the point of a major deal for grime MC's right now. there's room to grow throughout the UK on an independent level for these artists. when the NYC hip hop scene was starting up in the early 80's it took years for majors to get involved, they didn't really know what was up with the music. independents have to carry the load at first IMO.
hail
yeah, there needs to be a proper grime independent label, like hiphop had with tommy boy or def jam in the 80s, that's the point i see grime as being at now, there's definetely the talent for a label to start up and release a slew of classics. i'd start a label myself but i've got no money to invest in it... or any kind of business sense
i don't know why an established indie doesn't start a new imprint for grime.
yeah, there needs to be a proper grime independent label, like hiphop had with tommy boy or def jam in the 80s, that's the point i see grime as being at now, there's definetely the talent for a label to start up and release a slew of classics. i'd start a label myself but i've got no money to invest in it... or any kind of business sense
i don't know why an established indie doesn't start a new imprint for grime.
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outraygeous
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this is probably a lame comment but i think grime needs like a koch records situation
big satan said:
so what IS the deal with 679?
yeah, i think it's weird that a small indie couldn't cherry pick, say 1 hot track a month, 12 singles a year, from all the white labels out and make money selling them... a grime boutique label sounds to be like a money maker...
well 679 isn't a dedicated grime label, it's cool that they're putting stuff out but if there was a label dealing soley in grime firstly it would mean more stuff being released than just the odd thing here and there, and once the label had been established it would generate interest (maybe only among the hardcore, but still) in new artists who put stuff out on a reliably good label.
unless 679 starts dedicating itself to grime then i don't know it will be able to help create the kind of support the scene needs right now... or i could just be talking out of my arse, i don't know....
another thing grime could do with is getting some good cover art
does anyone know how many copies of white label 12"s tend to get pressed up for a big song? or is that wholey dependant on stuff like how much money whoever's pressing it could afford at the time?
unless 679 starts dedicating itself to grime then i don't know it will be able to help create the kind of support the scene needs right now... or i could just be talking out of my arse, i don't know....
another thing grime could do with is getting some good cover art
does anyone know how many copies of white label 12"s tend to get pressed up for a big song? or is that wholey dependant on stuff like how much money whoever's pressing it could afford at the time?
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Logan Sama
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petergunn said:
I would fucking happily do that
All day.
Indie labels give me a shout.
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