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john eden
05-12-2004, 09:01 AM
One thing we discussed on Friday was why is there this unwritten law that no 'serious' blogger ever posts a jpeg of themselves? Faceless-blogger-bollox, innit? What's everyone scared of? Being recognised/stalked? Having to sign autographs when they go shopping? Getting their dicks sucked by blog-groupies? I keep meaning to buck the trend, but I always bottle it at the last minute.

I think being relatively anonymous might allow you a certain freedom to develop a persona, and write about subjects you wouldn't normally discuss with family, workmates or even friends (largely because they aren't interested - tho I've just done a post on nazi skinheads that I wouldn't necessarily want to be publically identifiable for). This is both a good and a bad thing, of course.

Seems to me like the bogstandard blogger software doesn't allow you to post images anyway?

Plus of course most bloggers are really ugly. :p

Having said that, anyone can post images on Dissensus... who's got the bottle?

http://www.uncarved.org/graphics/eden2.jpg

Is my blurry pic from sometime ago in my profile on uk-dance.... might try and do a clearer and more recent one later.

martin
05-12-2004, 05:01 PM
x

luka
05-12-2004, 05:18 PM
theres quite a lot of photos of me dotted around, none of them are particularly flattering. my favourite one is at pd.fotopages.com
cos its missing my head.

satanmcnugget
05-12-2004, 07:05 PM
i dont post pix of myself just because im really fuggin' ugly....plus i dont know how

nick.K
05-12-2004, 07:21 PM
http://www.electrokin.com/club_shot_2.jpg


this is me : on the decks and in the audience

Nick Gutterbreakz
05-12-2004, 09:52 PM
You bastard, Eden! You called my bluff and now I'm scared!

Okay, I'll do it...soon. :eek:

sufi
05-12-2004, 10:18 PM
me (http://83.216.135.129/cgi-bin/emAlbum.cgi?cmd=show_image&path=dunia&img=96&tn=1)

john eden
05-12-2004, 10:55 PM
I put the apostrophe in the wrong place in the title. I suck! :mad:

nick.K
05-12-2004, 11:15 PM
sufi, such a magical picture! you should have put it up, directly. Following on I rediscovered your websites... and it seems I'm gonna have my freetime sewn up for while. thx

Rambler
06-12-2004, 10:53 AM
I think there are lots of good reasons why people might want a bit of anonymity with their blogs - freedom to write about sensitive/controversial issues is one of them. On the other hand, there are plenty of bloggers who don't hide their names, but don't post pix of themselves (including me); one reason for that is that it _can_ look a bit narcissistic (OK, blogging is essentially all narcissism, but at least we try to pretend that it isn't). It's a matter of taste or etiquette I guess. In the same way as posting pictures of your cat or your front room can look a bit naff. Sadly, my favourite picture of me includes both a cat and a living room, so it's unlikely to appear on the blog.

Nick Gutterbreakz
06-12-2004, 11:22 AM
A cat and a living room, eh? Okay, that sounds like a good theme. I'll see what I can find...

craner
08-12-2004, 07:25 PM
<img src="http://www.placervillevet.com/gallery/Luka.JPG">

xero
09-12-2004, 11:18 AM
http://www.electrokin.com/club_shot_2.jpg


this is me : on the decks and in the audience

wow even jeff mills doesn't get that many deckwatchers!

bassnation
09-12-2004, 01:09 PM
fuck it, i don't care.

heres mine from my ukd profile, completely munted in barcelona.

http://www.bassnation.uk.net/images/marc_july2.jpg

Loki
09-12-2004, 08:04 PM
seems to me that people are not posting pictures for fear of something akin to self-aggrandisement; they want to be asked to show themselves, they need to be given the freedom of someone else's intentionality. A thread emerges and it's like an invitation to invade the visual space, something we're perhaps rightly reluctant to impose with no explicit need on the part of our readers (i can remember being very disappointed when i saw what Mary Ann Hobbes looked like...). It's no surprise therefore that people have risen to the challenge in this thread and elsewhere - excellent timing with the kiddie pics Gutterbreakz! - and revealed themselves... it's like a burden being lifted.

There's a similar sequence of events re: Comments boxes - as soon as a despairing blogger posts that they're requiring a little feedback, the posts flood in. People want to talk and they want to reveal themselves but shyness extends further into the psyche than the hordes of social phobics populating the web...

And, no, I'm not putting my picture up.

sufi
09-12-2004, 08:44 PM
go on...

craner
09-12-2004, 08:57 PM
There's a photo of me <a href="http://www.newtopiamagazine.net/content/issue16/exclusive/avon4_5-2004.php">here</a>. I posted a link to it just to blow a hole in Loki's theory. Never let it be said that I fear self-aggrandisement. It's how I fucking live!

Woebot
09-12-2004, 11:48 PM
me (http://www.woebot.com/images/twanboc_embed/echophotos/v.html)

i posted this on woebot ages ago. didnt look a bit like me for ages, but recently (since spring) i done lost two stone in weight so the likeness is better.

the only bloggers who posted photos of themselves on the front page were angus and nick southall. i came slowly to like angus's cheery mugshot. it is a bit off-putting really isnt it....

Woebot
09-12-2004, 11:50 PM
http://www.uncarved.org/graphics/eden2.jpg

Is my blurry pic from sometime ago in my profile on uk-dance.... might try and do a clearer and more recent one later.

eden you charlatan! this was the photo john sent me when we met up first (was it?) the summer before last. some fucking use it was!!! post a proper photo!

HMGovt
10-12-2004, 12:28 AM
me (http://www.woebot.com/images/twanboc_embed/echophotos/v.html)

i posted this on woebot ages ago. didnt look a bit like me for ages, but recently (since spring) i done lost two stone in weight so the likeness is better.

the only bloggers who posted photos of themselves on the front page were angus and nick southall. i came slowly to like angus's cheery mugshot. it is a bit off-putting really isnt it....

Which one is you?

sufi
10-12-2004, 12:31 AM
you know i still have that photo from: here (http://www.woebot.com/movabletype/archives/000931.html)... i think i sent all those reticent bloggers a copy, whose gonna post it?

sufi
10-12-2004, 12:35 AM
Some Bloggers. Photo Sufi. (Left to Right): K-punk, Silverdollar, Evergreen Daze, Heronbone, Stelfox, Kin, WOEBOT.this 1

Woebot
10-12-2004, 12:36 AM
you know i still have that photo from: here (http://www.woebot.com/movabletype/archives/000931.html)... i think i sent all those reticent bloggers a copy, whose gonna post it?

i did't think it was fair to post an image of other people like that without getting everyone else to ok it. and if i'd asked people they'd probably have felt duty-bound to consent along the lines of "oh yeah i'm cool with that" when secretly they'd rather not......

plus i look fat in it ;)

sufi
10-12-2004, 01:08 AM
i think you look rather groovy actually...
it's a feckin funny photo
should we not out luka, fatty :p ?

sufi
10-12-2004, 01:13 AM
this (http://k-punk.abstractdynamics.org/archives/MACHIN~1-thumb.JPG) is obviously mark?

Nick Gutterbreakz
10-12-2004, 02:00 AM
That's John Foxx.

sufi
12-12-2004, 02:23 PM
http://pds.jpl.nasa.gov/planets/images/browse/jupiter/loki.jpg

john eden
23-12-2004, 11:45 AM
eden you charlatan! this was the photo john sent me when we met up first (was it?) the summer before last. some fucking use it was!!! post a proper photo!

:p

http://www.peoplesrepublicofdis.co.uk/albums/XmasUnsound_2004/shake_the_foundations_1.sized.jpg

Better?

martin
23-12-2004, 04:46 PM
Here's a fun game. Let's imagine what bloggers look like. I've only met one (J.Eden) tho in fairness, he didn't look anything like what I'd pre-supposed (ie - he didn't have a cape)


Woebot - very tall, pained expression, black hair with grey flecks, Jamie Oliver accent

Kid Shirt - dayglo shirts, spikey hair, neat facial scar

Loki - dreads, bumfluff, thin as a rake, sneer, old anarcho tattoo (left forearm)

Paul Meme -olive skin, glasses, really violent glare, Mexican bandit moustache

Psychbloke - a bit like Stewart Home

Infinite Thought - blonde in a ponytail, tiny nose, 5 ft 5, furry boots

Love Ecstasy Crime - wirey black hair, pierced nose, Antisect T-shirt, bit short

Dubversion - (actually I've seen a pic but it wasn't very clear - glasses and hat? Drinks Baileys?)

Beyond the Implode - Mr Potato Head

Marcello Carlin - curly black afro, Jimmy Nesbitt face

K-Punk - stubble, short hair, ear ring, Fred Perry

Glueboot - short pink hair, hooded eyes, knowing look, husky voice

DISCLAIMER - I am not to be physically manhandled for my guesses

infinite thought
24-12-2004, 01:57 AM
you've definitely been spying on me, tho I'm 5ft 4, and my nose isn't that small. Couldn't be more wrong about Glueboot, however....

I reckon you look a bit like Thom Yorke with darker hair and slightly less wonky eyes. Am I right?

martin
24-12-2004, 08:46 AM
No, I've got the wonky eye though.

satanmcnugget
24-12-2004, 11:35 PM
laffs!!!!!

well, im not tall or short...im about 5ft 8/9, 190 lbs...kinda husky (to be polite)

also, im the one with the neat-o facial scars

and, yeah, ya nailed me with the kinky hair cuz im Metis...the punk (???) t-shirt is a no-go...im middle-aged, so.....................................

Loki
26-12-2004, 10:41 PM
Kid Shirt - dayglo shirts, spikey hair, neat facial scar

Loki - dreads, bumfluff, thin as a rake, sneer, old anarcho tattoo (left forearm)

Psychbloke - a bit like Stewart Home



Well, you have the others JUST RIGHT but i don't have dreads, just dirty hair.

Rachel Verinder
01-02-2005, 01:27 PM
Marcello Carlin - curly black afro, Jimmy Nesbitt face

Er...no, not quite...those familiar with the glum-looking Scottish actor Ken Stott may find a more useful visual comparison with Mr Carlin...

Ness Rowlah
01-02-2005, 05:25 PM
the chief blogger himself at kottke.org has a pic of himself in the top right corner.
very small though (he looks quite "generic" anyway).

I guess that's a good compromise between "I am nice, this is me and this is a friendly place;
but don't expect to recognise me on the streets".

satanmcnugget
20-09-2005, 01:24 AM
finally found a pic of me online...im satanmcnugget (on the right)...the sticker onmy bandana says Drop Acid Not Bombs :)

http://www.deepblueforum.com/cpg/displayimage.php?album=3&pos=38

Melchior
20-09-2005, 02:46 AM
There's a heavily cropped picture of me in my blogger profile. I think it's sort of useful to have a visual sense of what people look like. Helps with a sense of identity which is appealing with blogs.

My work in annarchist publishing back home means thiat I have a real sennse of these sort of debates. If you're talking politics etc I actually think it's useful to have some identifiable contact point unless of course you're talking shit on very heavy people (ie. Cobat 18 or something).
But even then it's a useful thing.

I'm of the opinion that if you're going to be talking about serious issues you should have a reason not to stand up behind your words. There was an election blog recently in NZ which was anonymous. And while they claimed to have good reasons for it, as far as I could tell the real reason was because they were a ill disguised front for the Labour Party.

Sorry to get all serious...

satanmcnugget
20-09-2005, 03:30 AM
i just like the more personal feel of peeps knowing what i look like

and the fact that i look like a complete loon 9which iam) shld prevent them from taking me too seriously :)

blissblogger
20-09-2005, 03:07 PM
ah see, cos when i saw the thread title i didn't think of visual anonymity, i thought of the fact that there's interlocutors on here i'll argue with and not know anything about -- who they are, etc -- which is weird when you think about it. quite a lot of dissensians, it's known they have blogs, they have a set of positions they've taken, you know where they're coming from, and in some cases i'll have met them, be friends or whatever ... .... but then there's others you don't (applies to any message board or net forum obviously) and in some ways arguing with someone on that basis is.... odd. seems like there's an imbalance there.

Peak
22-09-2005, 03:54 PM
I think there's all sorts of imbalances at work. I'm struck by my sense on this thread of an implied community within a community - 'we' are the bloggers, many or most of whom 'we' know/have met elsewhere, in real or virtual life, so that we know what they look like OR can make knowing/jokey guesses at what they look like...

I'm not a blogger, not particularly a net-head, but I like the cluster of enthusiasms and the tone of discussion/debate around here. I also like the anonymity (in blissbloggers sense) which seems quite democratic to me - I can respond to arguments & the way they're expressed without my sense of who is speaking (and whether I usually agree/disagree/value what they say) interfering. I can also use the anonymity to try out ideas and ways of putting them (which could otherwise be a bit scarey, some of you being proper writers n'all).

I guess my sense of 'democratic space' was a bit naive. Naturally there are heirarchies within the Dissensus community, people who know who they are talking to, whose voices they are interested in hearing, some who know they are insiders and some who aren't. I'm not complaining, or criticising people for not being inclusive, its probably inevitable on any forum. Its actually quite interesting - working out what the hierarchies are, who the implied audiences are - another reason for tuning in..... (anonymously...)

Melchior
23-09-2005, 12:27 AM
Good post Peak!

The levelling affect of anominity is actually a reallly interesting point. And it only works if we all do it cos while no one's going to be intimidated by knowing who I am, if only the famous people are anonymous then anominity will signify status.

Melchior
23-09-2005, 09:17 AM
This has all of a sudden taken on a new relevance for me as I've been listed in a "Leftywatch" section of a neo-nazi blog for posting about a denial of service attack on an anti-nazi site.

How odd.