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shudder
01-05-2006, 05:43 AM
Stephen Colbert (fake news anchor in the style of Fox News' Bill O'Reilley, etc.) just massacres Bush at the annual White House Correspondents Dinner. wow.

video here (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x1062761#1062766) and transcript here (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/4/30/1441/59811)

also a brilliant excoriation of the u.s. press

zhao
01-05-2006, 08:32 AM
awesome

zhao
01-05-2006, 08:37 AM
ofcourse only the court jester is allowed to get away with making remarks that bear any semblance of truth

gek-opel
01-05-2006, 01:01 PM
Just read the transcript- ignorance of view from the UK: Did he actually say this in front of Bush??? Genius if so.

nomos
01-05-2006, 01:11 PM
Bush was sitting just two chairs over trying to look like he thought it was funny/got it. Interesting how much of the press corps were outwardly put off by the jokes. Lots of non-laughers and sidelong "this isn't right" glances. He took a deep swipe at John McCain too.

sherief
01-05-2006, 03:04 PM
This was truly the ballsiest thing I've seen in years. Bush was indeed no more than 5 feet away and Colbert went on for at least 15 minutes. I don't think this President has ever had this much sustained criticism. I watched it with a friend and we both ended up turning to each other after it was over and asking "They're going to have him killed, right? I mean, they can't allow that, can they?" Best TV of the past 6 years and it was on CSPAN. Go figure

qwerty south
01-05-2006, 03:04 PM
classic.

thanks.

henry s
01-05-2006, 05:09 PM
V For Vendetta, anyone?

Freakaholic
01-05-2006, 09:39 PM
Conservative media spin: Bush was the funny one, and Colbert fell flat. Also, some go as far to say that he was way outta line, and that this wasnt suppose to be aplace to attack your enemies, but only roast your friends.

dominic
02-05-2006, 04:49 AM
quite funny

except for the videotape at the end -- that kinda dragged on a for a bit

luka
02-05-2006, 09:19 AM
what, you find that funny? that was shit. bad jokes, bad delivery.

IdleRich
02-05-2006, 10:33 AM
I read the transcript and there were some fairly funny jokes in there but when you see the actual performance it wasn't at all well delivered and didn't make me laugh. Maybe it was because the audience wasn't exactly receptive but watching that it looked to me as though he died. On the other hand I have to admire him having such a blatant go at Bush right in front of his face - it's just a shame it wasn't done with a bit more wit.

zhao
02-05-2006, 02:41 PM
it wasn't at all well delivered and didn't make me laugh. On the other hand I have to admire him having such a blatant go at Bush right in front of his face

0.2% of the shocking greatness of this episode was accountable by Colbert's wit or delivery as a comedian. and 99.8% of what made it totally fucking awesome was his courage and audacity as a public speaker/political commentator.

ripley
02-05-2006, 02:47 PM
I was falling over laughing. And his delivery didn't prevent that - and probably enhanced it by being so deadpan. But it was really the words, and the situation that brought it up to another level.

come on.. Washington DC - the Chocolate City, with the Marshmallow Center, and a graham cracker crust of corruption? delivered to that crowd ? funny.

but I do agree that part of the rush was knowing who his audience is, and that 90% of what he said is just true but none of them have the guts to say it.

adruu
02-05-2006, 03:19 PM
was joe wilson really there? my video was choppy.

i bet colbert was having drinks with tony snow right after this.

shudder
02-05-2006, 03:27 PM
luka: you do get that that's his shtick, right? I think his style and delivery make a lot more sense when you've actually watched the ridiculous shit he's lampooning... and the audience reaction was exactly apt, since he made everyone in the audience squirm like they should...

IdleRich
02-05-2006, 03:38 PM
"And his delivery didn't prevent that - and probably enhanced it by being so deadpan"
I don't think he was deadpan. He left pauses for laughs that didn't arrive, how is that deadpan? Plus he cocked up one of the jokes and then said it again looking fairly uncomfortable all the while.

nomos
02-05-2006, 03:40 PM
luka: you do get that that's his shtick, right? I think his style and delivery make a lot more sense when you've actually watched the ridiculous shit he's lampooning... and the audience reaction was exactly apt, since he made everyone in the audience squirm like they should...
yeah i think it hinges on everyday exposuire to particular north american stuff. even in canada it's easy not to really get where he's coming from because we don't get fox news and the o'reilly factor (at least not on regular cable). his whole schtick has to to with him caricaturing o'reilly every day in the same timeslot. i usually find him less amusing than jon stewart because his whole show is about being in that character, but seeing him confront the washington press corps and the president with their own bullshit like that really was on another level.

nomos
02-05-2006, 03:48 PM
it reminded me of one of those lock the doors and turn up the heat events that dadaists are supposed to have staged.

luka
02-05-2006, 04:02 PM
yeah,maybe i don't get it. i've seen fox news and o'reillys slot on it though. my dads got sky.i watch it round there. i just thought the boys not cut out to be a performer. thats all. i felt embaressed for him. he was awful.

adruu
02-05-2006, 04:05 PM
Jon Stewart Defends Colbert's Dinner Speech
http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1002426019
By E&P Staff

Published: May 01, 2006 11:20 PM ET

NEW YORK Probably to no one's surprise, Jon Stewart, host of Comedy Central's "Daily Show," hailed the performance of his stablemate Stephen Colbert at Saturday night's White House Correspondents dinner. Colbert's lampooning of the president and the press has generated a good deal of praise and criticism.

"It was balls-alicious," Stewart said. "Apparently he was under the impression that they'd hired him to do what he does every night on television" -- that is, make fun of conservatives, public officials, and the press in the guise of an O'Reillyesque talk show host.

"We've never been prouder of him, but HOLY ----," Stewart added.

He also described the annual dinner as "where the President and the press corps consummate their loveless marriage."

Colbert then followed Stewart, on his own show, "The Colbert Report," describing the "honor of appearing" at the big dinner. He said the room was full of "power players," so he "fit right in."

"Best of all, I got to meet my main man, President Bush," he said, and even had a chance to shake his hand. "He has very soft hands," Colbert revealed, "which was surprising. He must wear gloves when he is clearing brush."

Colbert made fun of his mixed reception at the dinner, re-running the tape of one of his jokes with the audience barely reacting. He described this as "very respectful silence," and said that actually the crowd loved him.

"They practically carried me out on their shoulders," he said, "even though I wasn't ready to go."

Leo
02-05-2006, 04:36 PM
i like his tv show and thought he was pretty ballsy here, but it just went on for too long and got to be painful after a while. he should have done 5-7 minutes (not 25!) and cut the video.

of course, even then he still would have been too stinging for this event, which is usually more along the lines of respectful/kid-gloves humor. colbert made it into a friar's roast!

DigitalDjigit
02-05-2006, 06:36 PM
yeah,maybe i don't get it. i've seen fox news and o'reillys slot on it though. my dads got sky.i watch it round there. i just thought the boys not cut out to be a performer. thats all. i felt embaressed for him. he was awful.

But he was delivering the performance in front of a guy who is always surrounded by guys in black sunglasses with big guns, who has millions of armed men at his disposal, a guy who authorised torture prisons where habeas corpus has been suspended and someone who is never faced with criticism. You can understand if he was feeling a bit nervous.

henry s
02-05-2006, 07:31 PM
But he was delivering the performance in front of a guy who is always surrounded by guys in black sunglasses with big guns, who has millions of armed men at his disposal, a guy who authorised torture prisons where habeas corpus has been suspended and someone who is never faced with criticism. You can understand if he was feeling a bit nervous.
especially if he had seen V For Vendetta...I'm surprised he didn't make a joke on his show about expecting to get "bagged"...

nomos
02-05-2006, 07:56 PM
he should have done 5-7 minutes (not 25!) and cut the video.
it was partly the painful length of it that i liked. he completely took control of those people for longer than he should have reasonably been allowed, especially given how controlling this administration has been with events. 25 minutes mocking bush from 5 feet away. it didn't have to be funny. the discomfort it provoked dug way deeper. that's why it didn't make it into the news the next day.

dominic
02-05-2006, 08:34 PM
0.2% of the shocking greatness of this episode was accountable by Colbert's wit or delivery as a comedian. and 99.8% of what made it totally fucking awesome was his courage and audacity as a public speaker/political commentator.

my sentiments exactly

well said, confucius

dominic
02-05-2006, 08:39 PM
it was partly the painful length of it that i liked. he completely took control of those people for longer than he should have reasonably been allowed, especially given how controlling this administration has been with events. 25 minutes mocking bush from 5 feet away. it didn't have to be funny. the discomfort it provoked dug way deeper.

precisely

IdleRich
03-05-2006, 07:55 AM
"But he was delivering the performance in front of a guy who is always surrounded by guys in black sunglasses with big guns, who has millions of armed men at his disposal, a guy who authorised torture prisons where habeas corpus has been suspended and someone who is never faced with criticism. You can understand if he was feeling a bit nervous."
What did he think was going to happen to him? Gunned down in public on TV or taken off to Camp X-Ray? I think that he's fairly safe to be honest.

Rambler
03-05-2006, 10:34 AM
What did he think was going to happen to him? Gunned down in public on TV or taken off to Camp X-Ray? I think that he's fairly safe to be honest.

Then why was he the only one in a room full of Washington reporters to be saying this stuff? Wasn't that the entire point - that the press corps are too cowardly to speak out properly?

And I don't care what anyone says, this stuff is funny:

"Now, I know theres some polls out there saying this man has a 32% approval rating. But guys like us, we don't pay attention to the polls. We know that polls are just a collection of statistics that reflect what people are thinking in reality. And reality has a well-known liberal bias."

And this is funny, and ballsy:

"I mean, its like the movie Rocky. The president is Rocky and Apollo Creed is everything else in the world. Its the 10th round. Hes bloodied, his corner man, Mick, who in this case would be the Vice President, and he’s yelling ‘Cut me, Dick, cut me,’ and everytime he falls, she says stay down! Does he stay down? No. Like Rocky he gets back up and in the end he…actually loses in the first movie. Okay. It doesn’t matter. The point is the heart-warming story of a man who was repeatedly punched in the face."

IdleRich
03-05-2006, 10:57 AM
"Then why was he the only one in a room full of Washington reporters to be saying this stuff? Wasn't that the entire point - that the press corps are too cowardly to speak out properly?"
Sure, I agree with that, I just think it's a bit hysterical to suggest that people are frightened because of the men in dark sunglasses with guns. It's more that they don't want to step out of line with the others and be accused of being Anti-American, not quite the same thing.


"And reality has a well-known liberal bias."
Agreed that (some of) it is funny. It was just the delivery that let it down, that's what I said before.

Rambler
03-05-2006, 12:23 PM
Maybe. It wasn't flawless delivery, certainly. But I kind of liked the way that he stuck to his material even though it was starting to bomb. It developed from a comedy routine into an evisceration of the President and, more especially, the American media, and so it was never going to get huge laughs in a room full of reporters.

IdleRich
03-05-2006, 12:55 PM
Fair points all. I admire his bloodymindedness and I do think he had balls, I'm just saying that it should be kept in perspective.

corneilius
03-05-2006, 04:24 PM
Funny? Kinda. Useful. I don't think so. It's a really good way to disarm people, making them laugh, but really it's no laughing matter. And he didn't say much about Depleted Uranium and it's current usage, the effects of which are unspeakable, which is undoubtedly the BIGGEST censored/untold story at present.

Now if Chomsky had been there to speak, while it might have not been as funny, it would have been so much more uncomfortable for all those in their nice shirts and glorious gowns - and that would have made me laugh deeply, cheer wildly etc,. for a long time.

We need much more than a few jokes to bring these war mongering phuckerz and their retinue to The International Criminal Court, to be tried for their crimes and complicity and in due course locked up, with the keys melted down and thrown at them!

Whats the odds that Colberts ratings will rise? Which is what TV is all about - and they will use anything to raise their ratings as it draws in advertisers and sponsors, the folks with the dosh!

And they are clever enough to refer to what is happening in such a way as to desensitise it all ....


for an example of what we should be seeing/hearing :

http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0429-30.htm (or why not to enlist!)

or just google(images) births iraq uranium - one has to look at reality, and check it against ones heart, then get active .... a happy activist is the best activist, a happy persons anger is deeper, more centered and less lethal than the anger of those who carry unresolved issues, thus more likely to succeed in the long-term, and this is a long-term thing we are faced with here.

craner
03-05-2006, 06:01 PM
And he didn't say much about Depleted Uranium and it's current usage, the effects of which are unspeakable, which is undoubtedly the BIGGEST censored/untold story at present.

Well, you try thinking up a punchline for that!

Cornelius, you're funnier than this Colbert schmuck any day of the week.

corneilius
04-05-2006, 09:50 AM
How about this then:

"mr. president, you have started to deal with our nuclear waste problem, and for that we must thank you. By shipping it and flying it to other countries, and then aerosoling it. At this rate you'll have all of it dealt with by the time your daughters grand-daughter becomes the first US female president.... now that's what I call long term thinking"

No - it's not funny. I don't think it's possible to turn THAT into a joke - any takers?