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Chef Napalm
17-12-2004, 01:54 PM
Dear Rephlex:

I , like many AFX fans, eagerly signed up for the Analord newsletter when the series was announced in the summer. Since then I have been waiting patiently for word on its official release. Finally, Wednesday morning, word arrived: If you want one, it'll be 40 (https://www.rephlex.com/analord10.php)!

40!!??! That's almost $100 Canadian! For a *new* record! That may or may not be any good! No sound samples are available and apparently nobody has heard it except for a rare few who appear to have been chosen for their extreme inarticulateness. Example:


Ive got Analord. Its really really GOOD!! It's Acid! and its FANTASTIC!!!! Did you hear me...ITS FABULOUS....ready....its COOL.....and.....its...BRILL.....and its......ready wicky wicky wicky wicky wiced!!! (http://forum.watmm.com/lofiversion/index.php?t8022.html)

I really would like to trust you on this, Rephlex, but RDJ's output has been questionable of late, to say the least (Smojphace...hello!). I for one am beginning to wonder whether Mr. James is playing some elaborate prank that ratchets up a notch with each subsequent release. I get the idea that he is rummaging around his bank vault cum appartment wondering, "What unlistenable shit can I sell the proles this time?" Cue the hysterical laughter as he selects a mouldering reel-to-reel from the pile on the floor. Daddy needs a new tank!

I realise that Aphex Twin probably out-sells all of the rest of Rephlex's catalogue combined, but surely there must come a time when someone over there listens to Dick's latest stylus-on-sandpaper track and says, "Fuck, Rich, this sucks! Have you got anything worth listening to?" The penny has got to drop for those of us who have obsessively collected his stuff lo these 20 years and when it does you'll be luck to move one of these soul-sucking jokes (https://www.rephlex.com/analord10.php), let alone the 87 that have been ordered as of this writing. We don't take kindly to being the butt of some artfuck's joke and we have the spending power to back it up.

In closing, I would like to thank you for opening my eyes. I will not be wasting my hard-earned, near-worthless Canadian dollars on any more of your product.

Merry Christmas,

The Grinch

hint
17-12-2004, 03:22 PM
it's not an ordinary record though:

it's a limited run (short runs cost more per unit)
it's on audiophile vinyl (proper audiophile vinyl at that)
it comes in a fancy folder thingy

therefore it costs more

anyway - isn't it coming out as a "normal" release further down the line?

personally, I wouldn't spend 40 on a record without hearing it first... but I'm sure it exists to satisfy that percentage of aphex fans who like buying boutique editions of his stuff and expect him to come up with something different, in that respect, each time.

it's a bit of fun, but certainly not a prank.

Nick Gutterbreakz
17-12-2004, 08:19 PM
40 is a bit of a risky figure, even for an old AFX stalwart like myself. Think I'll wait for some reliable opinions to filter through, or maybe wait for this:

"If you're not up for this special collectors edition with binder, we are pleased to announce that you will be able to purchase Analord 10 in a more regular format, but not until 9 preceding volumes have been released (via your local record store, starting with Analord 1 & 2 in late Jan. / early Feb. 2005. We estimate that the alternative format of Analord 10 will be released next Summer.)"

ambrose
18-12-2004, 02:00 AM
I for one am beginning to wonder whether Mr. James is playing some elaborate prank that ratchets up a notch with each subsequent release. I get the idea that he is rummaging around his bank vault cum appartment wondering, "What unlistenable shit can I sell the proles this time?" Cue the hysterical laughter as he selects a mouldering reel-to-reel from the pile on the floor. Daddy needs a new tank!


dude this is what happened everytime someone released an aphex tune!


who have obsessively collected his stuff lo these 20 years.......We don't take kindly to being the butt of some artfuck's joke

!!!! does not compute?! ;)

mms
18-12-2004, 10:10 AM
massive overreaction there .
its always been clear what the thing was from the start ie 1 x custom made folder to contain all the series and one 1x audiophile virgin pressing http://www.recordtech.com/
plus the 40 includes shipping which will probably be about 15 i guess as those two things are well heavy, some people just can't read tho.
and the bloody thing is getting released on normal vinyl anyway next year, no big deal, this is just a thing for those who've taken the last train to nerdsville.
seems if your're bothered wait till next year, it's only a record afterall.
and all this shit about sandpaper is laughable isn't it?

DigitalDjigit
19-12-2004, 03:47 AM
It's all over Slsk. It's really shit. Boring, cheap acid. Like the Universal Indicator series only less lo-fi but also less weird. One of the tracks sounds like a remix of that track on Analogue Bubblebath 3 that starts with a vacuum cleaner (that is by the way one of the funniest jokes AFX made) only played at 45. Okay, so I didn't really give it a proper listen but I am sure anyone can bang this out in 5 minutes in ReBirth.

And for the record, I love acid. It's just that there's a lot of shit out there.

mms
19-12-2004, 11:03 AM
yeah those are some tracks someone has guessed might be analord (which is just odd cos there are 11 eps, why chose these two tracks?) that come from an bootleg recording of a dj set.

neither of them are anything to do with analord, i've heard them all, they sound nothing like this and no one else has heard em or played them out, so not a chance of soulseek getting them.
one of those trax is is some shit old djax track and another is just a track that wasn't released from analogue bb3 era.

Chef Napalm
20-12-2004, 05:19 PM
neither of them are anything to do with analord, i've heard them all, they sound nothing like this and no one else has heard em or played them out, so not a chance of soulseek getting them.
one of those trax is is some shit old djax track and another is just a track that wasn't released from analogue bb3 era.
Now THIS is what I hoped would happen. Someone out in the dissensosphere has actually heard this stuff and presumably is willing to talk about it. Excellent. By all means, let's hear it. Believe me, I would dearly love to be convinced that another Windowlicker/On/Come To Daddy (but, you know, DIFFERENT) is on the horizon.

Come on then. Let's have some Aphex acid.


and all this shit about sandpaper is laughable isn't it?
What can I say? Opinions are like assholes: everyone's got one and everyone thinks everybody else's stinks. :D Seriously though, RDJ has done some beautiful stuff and some ugly stuff, but let's face it, the ugly has far outweighed the beautiful in the last 5 or 6 years. I can appreciate interesting noises as much as anyone, but if I had known I was buying the squealing-fingernails-on-a-blackboard tracks on the B-side of Smojphace...well, I wouldn't. I mean, what is the point of owning records you can't/won't play?


If you're not up for this special collectors edition with binder, we are pleased to announce that you will be able to purchase Analord 10 in a more regular format, but not until 9 preceding volumes have been released (via your local record store, starting with Analord 1 & 2 in late Jan. / early Feb. 2005. We estimate that the alternative format of Analord 10 will be released next Summer.)
I know, I know. It still pisses me off.

mms
20-12-2004, 08:14 PM
What can I say? Opinions are like assholes: everyone's got one and everyone thinks everybody else's stinks. :D Seriously though, RDJ has done some beautiful stuff and some ugly stuff, but let's face it, the ugly has far outweighed the beautiful in the last 5 or 6 years. I can appreciate interesting noises as much as anyone, but if I had known I was buying the squealing-fingernails-on-a-blackboard tracks on the B-side of Smojphace...well, I wouldn't. I mean, what is the point of owning records you can't/won't play?.

yeah it didnt rip the bank open tho and that is the only 2 noise tracks he's done, it wasn't the greatest ep tho.
ithink the noise tracks are ok personally, not all the time at all or anything, and obviously they're not tuneful or comparable to his other stuff but they're nice and clear, i especially like the bit in the second track around a minute and a half in where the ultra sound kicks in and you think someone is behind you.

machine hugger
21-12-2004, 06:57 AM
save it for the 100% genuine plastic folder. Bucks.

Chef Napalm
21-12-2004, 12:13 PM
yeah it didnt rip the bank open tho and that is the only 2 noise tracks he's done, it wasn't the greatest ep tho.
ithink the noise tracks are ok personally, not all the time at all or anything, and obviously they're not tuneful or comparable to his other stuff but they're nice and clear, i especially like the bit in the second track around a minute and a half in where the ultra sound kicks in and you think someone is behind you.
Hardly the only ones he's done. Ventolin, the [equation] track on Windowlicker, and several on DrukQs also qualify, methinks. The correct (?) categorisation might be "aggro", but it amounts to noise; noise with beats.

Regardless, you're side-stepping the question. Are you going to tell us about what you've heard of the Analord series or not?

Hint: Try to avoid the descriptor "Wicky, Wicky, Wicked." ;)

mms
21-12-2004, 06:48 PM
Hardly the only ones he's done. Ventolin, the [equation] track on Windowlicker, and several on DrukQs also qualify, methinks. The correct (?) categorisation might be "aggro", but it amounts to noise; noise with beats.

Regardless, you're side-stepping the question. Are you going to tell us about what you've heard of the Analord series or not?

Hint: Try to avoid the descriptor "Wicky, Wicky, Wicked." ;)

ventolin has beats and a hummable melody.
as do the others.


its analogue dance music avaliable next year

Chef Napalm
21-12-2004, 08:36 PM
its analogue dance music avaliable next year
http://www.sctimes.com/rocorishooting/Thursday_in_pictures/images/Rocori%20Head%20in%20Hands.jpg

Very profound.

DigitalDjigit
23-12-2004, 04:12 AM
Ah, ok, sorry for the unnecessary flaming then. One of the tracks did sound very much like Djax. Is it not shipping yet or what? Because surely the moment someone gets a copy it will be up on slsk in no time.

iueke
24-12-2004, 06:47 PM
what i heard was superb.

AFX at his best.

Chef Napalm
11-01-2005, 12:39 PM
its analogue dance music avaliable next year

This unsatisfying description has kept me looking for samples with limited success.

Make of these (http://www.aphextwin.only.pl/Gadzety/mp3/1.mp3) what you will. (http://www.aphextwin.only.pl/Gadzety/mp3/2.mp3) I for one am still not impressed.

hint
11-01-2005, 02:08 PM
This unsatisfying description has kept me looking for samples with limited success.

just wait til the first release comes out. you'll be able to hear it then and decide whether or not you want to buy it. you seem to have already decided that you don't want to buy the audiophile / folder package.... what's the problem with waiting a while? it's funny how people just assume stuff will be available online well in advance of its official release these days.

I get the impression that very few people have heard the genuine article and those that have are going to stay tight-lipped, like mms. I think it's a waste of energy to demand that people convince you to buy these records, especially since you've made it clear with your first post that you hold those responsible for putting the releases together (artist, label) in very low regard.

mms
11-01-2005, 03:18 PM
This unsatisfying description has kept me looking for samples with limited success.

Make of these (http://www.aphextwin.only.pl/Gadzety/mp3/1.mp3) what you will. (http://www.aphextwin.only.pl/Gadzety/mp3/2.mp3) I for one am still not impressed.


yeah no one has heard it apart from the chosen few, wait till the audiophile is there and then get the proper job ones on soulseek int it.

Chef Napalm
11-01-2005, 03:55 PM
just wait til the first release comes out. you'll be able to hear it then and decide whether or not you want to buy it. you seem to have already decided that you don't want to buy the audiophile / folder package.... what's the problem with waiting a while? it's funny how people just assume stuff will be available online well in advance of its official release these days.
Let's be clear: I don't want to download anything (thanks for the condescending generalisation, just the same). I want listen to it. Give me RealAudio, give me Windows Media, hell, imbed it in the goddamned java (Warp don't seem to have a problem with that). Why is it so unreasonable to ask for sound samples before I shell out 40quid ex. shipping ($100CAD. To put it in perspective, that's a weeks worth of food.)? Extra-super-special packaging aside, I love records (If my cutting/pressing thread says anything, surely it says that.). I love the way they look, I love the way they sound, I even love the way they smell. Believe me, if I liked it enough, $100 is not going to stop me buying it. The reality is, however, that I live in a rural area. When I say "rural", I'm not sure anyone who lives in the more populated areas of Europe can appreciate what that means. In eastern Canada, "rural" means "my nearest neighbor is a 2 - 3km away." It means I drive 3 hours to my "local" record shop. It means I buy lots of stuff online and I've been screwed too many times to buy it unless I hear it first. Up until recently, RDJ was the exception to that rule. DrukQs was the second-to-last AFX product I bought, no questions asked. I got the CD and the 4X12". Then there was Smojphace...

The bottom line is that I don't think sound samples are too much to ask, especially when you're expecting what I view as a substantial investment. The whole thing smacks of arrogance and it pisses me off.


I get the impression that very few people have heard the genuine article and those that have are going to stay tight-lipped, like mms. I think it's a waste of energy to demand that people convince you to buy these records, especially since you've made it clear with your first post that you hold those responsible for putting the releases together (artist, label) in very low regard.
For what reason are they tight-lipped? What would it have hurt to expound upon the sound? There are eloquent reviews written here and associated blogs every day and no one is willing to tell us what two tracks from the now released Analord 10 sound like? *Shhhh* It's a secret! :rolleyes:

And for the record, I'm not demanding: I'm pleading. I'm begging. Throw me a fucking bone, for godsake. In fact, why don't we start by confirming or disputing that the low-quality samples are, in fact, the real deal. No? :eek: See the shock and awe.

Sure, I felt betrayed when I wrote the first post and it may acidic, but I stand by it. RDJ/Rephlex have put out some inspiring work in the past, but my view is that they have collectively been on cruise control and I don't see any signs of a bend in the road.

mms
11-01-2005, 04:03 PM
For what reason are they tight-lipped? What would it have hurt to expound upon the sound? There are eloquent reviews written here and associated blogs every day and no one is willing to tell us what two tracks from the now released Analord 10 sound like? *Shhhh* It's a secret

they are tight lipped because it's their label and they can do what they want, and they don't want you to get it on soulseek months before it's out.

i'm tight lipped cos it's more fun than being super fucking boring and doing mp3s of it.

i remember the pleasure of waiting for records to come out for what seemed like months and waiting till woolies opened in the morning on the day it came out, not having any money to buy mags and pre internet. then going home or having it on my walkman at anytime possible and endlessly listening to it for weeks.

now i can download some data of alot of things at my will anytime 3 months before the release date, i don't.

hint
11-01-2005, 04:27 PM
Let's be clear: I don't want to download anything (thanks for the condescending generalisation, just the same). I want listen to it....I buy lots of stuff online and I've been screwed too many times to buy it unless I hear it first.

The bottom line is that I don't think sound samples are too much to ask, especially when you're expecting what I view as a substantial investment. The whole thing smacks of arrogance and it pisses me off.

you misunderstood - I wasn't being condescending or suggesting that you would / should be going straight to soulseek....

when each analord 12" is released, and in the shops (online and otherwise), you will be able to hear it. that's how I hear stuff when it's available and decide whether or not I want to buy it. that's what I was saying. I've never downloaded a P2P file in my life.




no one is willing to tell us what two tracks from the now released Analord 10 sound like?

apparantly there has been a manufacturing hold up with the limited release, so it hasn't been sent out just yet.

mms
11-01-2005, 04:31 PM
i think 1 and 2 are out this month.

you get a props in paul morleys words and music btw hint
i'm reading it at the mo

hint
11-01-2005, 04:47 PM
you get a props in paul morleys words and music btw hint
i'm reading it at the mo

yeah I heard about that. pretty nuts, really. :D

Chef Napalm
11-01-2005, 04:50 PM
they are tight lipped because it's their label and they can do what they want, and they don't want you to get it on soulseek months before it's out.
They can convert text to mp3s now? Wow! :eek: Ain't technology grand?

You're right, of course; it is their label and they can do what they want. I just think saying "Buy this. No you can't listen to it first," is incredibly arrogant.


i'm tight lipped cos it's more fun than being super fucking boring and doing mp3s of it.

i remember the pleasure of waiting for records to come out for what seemed like months and waiting till woolies opened in the morning on the day it came out, not having any money to buy mags and pre internet. then going home or having it on my walkman at anytime possible and endlessly listening to it for weeks.

now i can download some data of alot of things at my will anytime 3 months before the release date, i don't.
You skim when you read, don't you? RealAudio (a la WadioWoebot) would suit me down to the ground. 30 seconds would do it. Besides, I am far more interested in your opinion than your mp3s ("super fucking boring" or not).

As for waiting ages for the release, didn't we just do that? Did I imagine four months of breathless anticipation? If it was $10, I'd take the risk and probably be elated by it. $100 is not a risk, it's grounds for divorce.

@ hint:


The bottom line is that I don't think sound samples are too much to ask, especially when you're expecting what I view as a substantial investment. The whole thing smacks of arrogance and it pisses me off.
The "you're" refers to Rephlex, not you personally. I sincerely appreciate your opinion and I appologize if I offended.

xero
11-01-2005, 05:13 PM
that leather-effect plastic binder is spectacularly naff isn't it - is it, perhaps, ironic? (yawns)

mms
11-01-2005, 05:20 PM
chefnapalm:You skim when you read, don't you? RealAudio (a la WadioWoebot) would suit me down to the ground
nah it doesn't matter its still boring, what would my description of it do for you? i gave you a description maybe i could give you the same description with a list of the objects around me as i'm writing it or something, why not wait so you can give me a description, i'd like that but it wouldn't change my opinion as to whether i like it or not, but i do like it.


you aren't being forced to buy it, you do have a choice in the matter, they make it quite clear that the record is coming out normal format normal price next year, so this one is for the ubernerds, and there are alot of them, which is probably the problem with this kinda music. But it's quite a nice little thing from what i remember, pricey tho.

anyway it's a record it's not important.

AshRa
24-01-2005, 11:37 AM
Is anybody else kicking themselves for not buying the Analord binder?!

I've just bought Analord 1 & 2 and they're right up there with CLASSIC early 90s Aphex - if the rest of the series is this good the 'bible-binder' is just the icing on the cake! :)

vache
24-01-2005, 01:48 PM
The binder does look a bit silly, but...
Wow! The first 2 records in this series are superb. I was expecting to dismiss them out of hand, but I heard excerpts online and picked them up immediately. Certainly they are like classic early 90s afx, but they also follow these strange directions and have these wonderful unexpected fits and starts.

matt ob
24-01-2005, 05:36 PM
Fuck the binder, buy the records. They're fantastic and very reasonably priced too - 4.99 each. Bargain.

Nick Gutterbreakz
25-01-2005, 01:07 AM
Is anybody else kicking themselves for not buying the Analord binder?!



I wouldn't go that far, but it's interesting that it became unavailable almost as soon as Analord 1 & 2 came out. It's as though, in order to get the Analord 10 binder package, they wanted the fans to take a financial 'leap of faith', without having any knowledge of the possible quality/contents. My faith had been seriously tested in recent years (Smodgeface EP seemed to be really taking the piss) and I wasn't up for it. I'll live... ;)

AshRa
25-01-2005, 10:05 AM
My faith had been seriously tested in recent years (Smodgeface EP seemed to be really taking the piss) and I wasn't up for it. I'll live...

Well I just wish I could be so flippant! ;) I NEED THAT BINDER or I don't know what i'll do!

notoriousJ.I.M
25-01-2005, 12:55 PM
Fuck the binder, buy the records. They're fantastic and very reasonably priced too - 4.99 each. Bargain.

Agreed, the records are the important thing, the rest is just packaging. Anyway, the binder looks cheap and impractical http://stat.discogs.com/R/377967-1105704663.jpghttp://stat.discogs.com/R/377967-1105704623.jpg
I simply invested in some cardboard sleeves for 25p each and will house each record in one of those!

DigitalDjigit
11-02-2005, 10:07 PM
Seen the Analord 10 binder set on ebay going for upwards of $300. Makes me wonder why the people got them in the first place and why those who are buying them on ebay didn't order from Rephlex (well...I know why it happenned, it just doesn't feel right).

Someone should tell Rephlex to adopt a new marketing strategy. Next time sell the suckers straight on eBay, a few per week. At least then the money will be going to the right place.

AshRa
12-02-2005, 02:35 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=306&item=4072952446&rd=1

$400!! Good news is that the binder will go on sale again at the end of the series - phew!

jed_
13-02-2005, 12:54 AM
haha, that guy's just been had. he's probably got too much money to start off with anyway.