glitch

snd, oval, coh, hecker etc.

foret said:

this is high time for a glitch revival any lesser known stuff in this vein you'd recommend?

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better, make it yourself: with this for example or this .

Can anyone recommend some more melodic glitch stuff?

Ned: Hecker's soundtrack for Angela Bulloch's The Disenchanted Forest x 1001 is a lot more mellow than his usual stuff. Endless Summer by Fennesz is a nice listen too.

Endless Summer is one of those albums that I've been recommend a million times, so I bought it, and I listened to it a lot, and I just could not get into it. Just baffled.

Ned said:

Can anyone recommend some more melodic glitch stuff?

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Jegas "Geometry" is one of the greatest and most underrated glitch-albums out there, like the "Frequencies" of post-Autechre electronica. But maybe it's too melodic and electro-rhythmic to be true glitch? I've allways preferred when glitches was used simply as a sound source, a means to an end, rather than an end in itself.

Speaking of Autechre, do they count as glitch? If they do, "lp5" is the best recommendation I can come up with here, irresistably synthetic and plastic-like. It sounds like I imagine it would feel like to eat polystyrene, and I've allways wanted to do that.

Some additional recommendations: Geroyche: "Bitpop", Fizzarum: "Monochrome Plural".

Sileni does nice glitchfunk

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@Foret: is glitch process or soundsource? I think its not that relevant, I mean glitch as sound source (ie a skipping cd in Oval's case) is the inspiration, but if you apply that technique to other pieces of music (which Autechre did) then I think it still counts as glitch...

So for something to be glitch, it has to use sounds that actually are glitches, rather than just sounding like it? But where to draw the line? Does it have to be sampled from skipping/damaged sources, or is it enough to simply misuse software, abuse it so it makes "wrong" sounds ("glitches") that it isn't supposed to? If you turn up a digital filter or similar plugins high enough, you get sounds that do indeed sound very much like, say, a damaged cd, and that most likely isn't intended from the manufacturer. I'm pretty sure Autechre have done a lot of this.

I really like glitchy piano stuff, like the Alva Noto + Ryuichi Sakamoto collaborations which we've talked about elsewhere. I can also recommend the Post Piano LP by Skotz/Kolgen on 12K.

My reply above is to foret, not gek, if anyone should be in doubt.

subvert47 said:

Sileni does nice glitchfunk

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Nice one, Mr. Statto. Yes, I'd even say that there is a little rivulet of leftfield dnb that has incorporated glitch as an essential part of the sonic palette. Sileni, Martsman, Dissident, and Graphic come to mind as standouts in that sense. Martsman has said that it was Sileni's TDR that was the most influential track for his own recent approach, while Graphic has gone on to do semi-glitch non dnb as MegaDynasty4, the only non-dnb download-only release on Offshore (available at bleep, btw). Jason oS's tune "808" is right on the cusp of pointillist glitch meets atmo dnb, and is a gooooorgeous track. That Dissident track that opens John Doe's latest IchiOne mix is beautiful too.

When I first read this thread, the only thing that gave pause was the 'revival' aspect. I would have thought that glitch had been absorbed in different ways by many different genres and production styles, and so was present in new ways and not necessarily in need of revival? In any case, if you'd like, foret, I've got an anthology of glitch-like tracks that Philip Sherburne compiled for a musicology journal in 2003 that I could send you (entitled 'splitting bits, closing loops: sound on sound'). It has things like Stephen Vitiello, Steve Roden, Insitut fuer Feinmotorik, M. Behrens, Scanner, DAT Politics, Stephen Matthieu, Francisco Lopez, Alejandra & Aeron, etc.

Also perhaps worth mentioning, though he's way beyond glitch: Curtis Roads, one of the pioneers of granular synthesis, a composer and prof, who has made some challenging electronic music. I mention him b/c autechre invited him when they did ATP, and I don't see him much mentioned anywhere outside of academic music discussions.

Re: revival or incorporation as standard technique: doesn't minimal house utilise glitch at times as simply another electronic sculpting technique, so its no longer the centrepiece, merely a method to serve the composition?

@Foret: Agreed on the process nature of a CD-player attempting to read a damaged CD, but I think there is a (slight) distinction which could be drawn between taking those sounds, and using them as source to create music around, and using the process of the glitch (in its purest form a read-error) and using that as inspiration to apply similar sounding processes via specially written code to other sources (ie- drum beats or guitar pieces or whatever)... but maybe that's splitting hairs.

gek-opel said:

Re: revival or incorporation as standard technique: doesn't minimal house utilise glitch at times as simply another electronic sculpting technique, so its no longer the centrepiece, merely a method to serve the composition?

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yes it does but it has since stuff like force trax etc.

but as a central piece, esp with physical stuff like oval or noisier stuff like yasuno tone, even philip jeck, hecker etc it still stands up as a really good centrepiece.

glitch was a massivley overused word, just used to describe any electronic music by lazy journos for a while.