thought i should return to this thread cos it links in to some of the stuff discussed on the sov thread (for which we can thank a certain contributor's shit-fuck issues)
when i spoke of
victorian in relation to childcare it was simply referring to the decrease in time spent with infants and children by parents dumping them on servants, and for the victorian upper middle class this was entirely a cultural thing
the equivalent classes now are doing the same for financial reasons, and few among them would say outright that mothers should not work full time if they can earn a large salary and get nearer their lifestyle apotheosis (and there is such a lot for these people to consume that even a single lawyer/doctor/etc salary may not suffice) - the guilt is largely platitudinous because it is withstood by so many whose consumption needs win out, and the laura bush archetype is dying outside of the upper class and the congenitally reactionary
this is a large shift in the space of one or two generations and fairly unambiguously a good one overall i think, however unsound the reasons, thanks to the increasing autonomy given to those who would otherwise be housewives (maybe this isn't as shit a fate as it usually looks, but it almost always affirms the madonna/whore irreason) and it facilitates further shifts like the elective single mother and fuck knows whatever else in years to come (
nugenix corp, aryan baby solutions since 2024)
some would cite the swelling of the nanny class supplanting all of this, but these are largely immigrants (in this country often temporary ones) or those who would otherwise be in some other serice sector serfdom; this is liberal guilt writ large and maybe the fear of the sublimated class antagonism played out against their fat little progeny while they work (especially if the carers looks after their own kids at the same time)
maybe it helps keep things kinky and erotic to keep female sexuality all bound up and repressed in the face of the rapid proliferation of grotesquely graphic sexual (almost to the point of caricature and parody) imagery?
this is far more complex because how little is there left to desublimate in hetero terms? and such a recent thing that the structures don't exist to displace the infite boredom of hyperreal pornography and the inutile sub-meta-porn that constitutes 90% of the entertainment industry just playing catchup
the reactions to all of this are exagerratedly performative, so if you show a kid some interracial a2m scat they will probably go EUUUGGHH or LIKE, WHATEVER depending on whether they wish to re-enact it themselves, and if they ever do then they'll probably have to hide how disappointingly boring it was