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Woebot
06-06-2007, 06:28 AM
A mate played out a load of his early tracks at a party the other night, and for the first time (er, like twenty years later) I really GOT the appeal of the Todd sound. It's in those rushing/racing/careering almost tinny drums.

I dug out that LP "To The Batmobile" and have been loving it to the marrow. I also found a copy of the Royal House LP (on Idlers, yay!) and thats pretty good as well.

Can anyone reccommend any hot earlyy Todd twelves. I know about the Black Riot record, and The Texican is supposed to be ace isn't it, though I haven't heard that.....

mms
06-06-2007, 08:07 AM
the texican is orange lemon isn't it, you must have heard those tracks?
i'll leave edward to fill you in here he can remember all the names.

mistersloane
06-06-2007, 08:58 AM
bango bang bang go bang go bango bang bang go bango, that one.

Edward
06-06-2007, 09:01 AM
Whoah!-bot, did you get my email?

You NEED:
Masters At Work - Dum Dum Cry
Masters At Work - Alright Alright
Various - Fingertrips Vol. 1
TTP -To The Batmobile LP (and/or all the singles off it)
Jungle Brothers - I'll House You
Royal House - Get Funky
Orange Lemon - Dreams Of Santa Anna

honours:
Hard House - The Bass Girl
Royal House - Can You Party
Hard House - Check This Out
Royal House - Key The Pulse
Swan Lake etc etc.

crackerjack
06-06-2007, 09:06 AM
Isn't it called Dreams Of Santa Anna? The 12s of Weekend and Better Way were always pretty easy to pick up.

Both those albums you mention are great. They're like the punk albums of dance music - short sharp blasts of brilliant house. Sound great in the car.

Edward
06-06-2007, 09:14 AM
Isn't it called Dreams Of Santa Anna?

That's what I said didn't I?

"The Texican" is the title of the (superior) B-side version.

crackerjack
06-06-2007, 09:18 AM
That's what I said didn't I?

"The Texican" is the title of the (superior) B-side version.

Yeah, I was replying to those up above, but you got in before me.

zhao
06-06-2007, 09:31 AM
i like what he says on the website:


I don't tend to moan about the one-dimensionality of the music industry. I don't criticize other artists for playing it safe. Instead, I am trying to enact change. Instead of sitting around on my ass, I'm opening myself up to more music to stir my soul. There's no more artistry out there; artists get stuck in one category. Often, they're just catering to a sound. ... The disadvantage with that is that artists tend to get stuck.

hahaha! i don't diss people. but they just weak-ass bitches. :D

crackerjack
06-06-2007, 09:48 AM
i like what he says on the website:



hahaha! i don't diss people. but they just weak-ass bitches. :D


He never was burdened by false modesty. I think he regarded those Todd Is God t-shirts as statement of fact rather than a rhyming slogan.

Another that should be on his list of classics - Feels Good - cheesy as feck, but that is one massive rush of a tune, especially first thing in the morning. I never found the normal radio tune on a 12 though, and all the remixes sucked.

drilla
07-06-2007, 12:48 AM
I thought "todd is god" referred to todd edwards

dubble-u-c
07-06-2007, 02:01 AM
Short list:

slam jam:
http://www.discogs.com/release/5492

just wanna dance/ weekend:
http://www.discogs.com/release/6444
http://www.discogs.com/release/50496

the circus/weekend:
http://www.discogs.com/release/4339

can you feel it:
http://www.discogs.com/release/35167

Daylite:
http://www.discogs.com/release/152309

Change Is What We Need - Remixes
http://www.discogs.com/release/27358

I Saw him dj in 1994 on 4 decks in SF - One of the best experiences i have ever had in a club.

Woebot
07-06-2007, 06:37 AM
wicked. thanks e and all.

crackerjack
07-06-2007, 07:39 AM
I thought "todd is god" referred to todd edwards

First time I ever saw them was for TT's visit to Hard Times back in mid-90s.

dubble-u-c
07-06-2007, 07:41 AM
First time I ever saw them was for TT's visit to Hard Times back in mid-90s.

:) the main diff is that TE wants nothing to do with the saying and TT relishes in it and has made songs referring to himself as God.

Chef Napalm
07-06-2007, 11:07 AM
Didn't they just re-release a whole bunch of his early output? I'm sure I remember recently seeing Tood Terry 12s with flashy artwork and old track titles in my daily Juno emails.
[edit: Yup. It was called "The Todd Terry Trilogy: Past Present and Future" on Ink Records (http://www.discogs.com/label/Ink+Records+(2))]

I recall reading an interview with him where he said:


When I'm putting a track together, I start out with a pretty melody and build on that. When it comes time to master it, I take out all the melody and release the rest.
Or something along those lines.

blissblogger
07-06-2007, 04:36 PM
i'm surprised mr woebot, i'd have thought you'd be into this stuff from way back

CLS, "Can You Feel It" strictly rhythm 91 is a killertune, great riff and quite ravey

http://www.discogs.com/release/35167


anybody remember when terry did the d&B album in the late 90s, out of the blue, seeingly for pure love of it -- the D&B scene was quite chuffed as i recall

Chef Napalm
07-06-2007, 04:57 PM
Congratulations, WB; your thread has brought the blissblogger out of hiding.

Welcome back, Simon.

Lichen
07-06-2007, 05:06 PM
I have a 2 x12" record form 90/91: Sax/This will be mine. Some of it's very nearly jungle and it's all killer.

I got if off a fellow with a stall in Camden called Lucky Spin...he went on to bigger things.

DigitalDjigit
07-06-2007, 06:02 PM
I really dig Royal House - I Can't Quite Understand (http://www.discogs.com/release/66651)

Also second the Sax - This Will Be Mine (http://www.discogs.com/release/64101). Todd at his most raviest. Some of the tracks sound quite good at 45.

I can't really think of anything by him that is terrible. It's all about the same quality level. I haven't heard anything by him post '92 though.

Woebot
08-06-2007, 12:26 PM
i'm surprised mr woebot, i'd have thought you'd be into this stuff from way back

well shamefully not really. i don't think a copy of "to the bat-mobile" really counts!


CLS, "Can You Feel It" strictly rhythm 91 is a killertune, great riff and quite ravey

however........i was surprised on closer inspection that i did have a few bits that i wasnt really aware were todd! not that one (must investigate, though......is there a chance it's that tune with the "can you feel it" vocal chant?) and two of them were strictly tunes: tech nine's "slam jam (which i think someone has mentioned) and one i really really love static's "dream it.

other bits and pieces. i have that "yeah buddy" with the trevor jackson cover (not very good) and also the gypsymen "daylite". still, it's a diletante's todd collection, seemingly formed by accident. there's mad crazy tips up-thread.

one thing i did like was on the back of my (just this week acquired) royal house lp, todd thanks only these four: bobby konders, lil loue vega, marley marl and roman ricardo (?). but just those first three, wow splendid namedropping....

mms
08-06-2007, 12:34 PM
http://music.hyperreal.org/library/history_of_freestyle.html

Got all those guys you speak of in there Matt.

dHarry
08-06-2007, 01:57 PM
"Can You Feel It" strictly rhythm 91 is a killertune, great riff and quite ravey

(must investigate, though......is there a chance it's that tune with the "can you feel it" vocal chant?)
Royal House's Can You Party I think (later half-inched by Technotronic on Pump Up The Jam; still a good track actually, as I discovered at a wedding recently!!) - anyone know if this came before or after Larry Heard/Mr Fingers Can You Feel It? I get the feeling they were pre-'88 UK aciiieed/rave like some of those '86-'88 Detroit & Chicago choons.

blissblogger
08-06-2007, 02:52 PM
"Party People", one of the singles off the Royal House album you got Matt, i think is one of the most amazing dance records ever, it's totally acid in spirit without actually having a 303 in it. it's almost got no musical content to it, just this stuttering pulse that seems to be made out of snippets of crowd-noise or something

i've had it for nearly 20 years and i only realised the other month that the "party people" vocal is from the start of "Planet Rock"

blissblogger
08-06-2007, 02:56 PM
this compilation, available through emusic, actually has an awful lot of the early classic stuff

http://www.emusic.com/album/Various-Artists-The-Todd-Terry-Trilogy-Past-Present-Future-MP3-Download/10891348.html

but y'all be wanting the vinyl i'm sure

Woebot
10-06-2007, 06:59 PM
this compilation, available through emusic, actually has an awful lot of the early classic stuff

http://www.emusic.com/album/Various-Artists-The-Todd-Terry-Trilogy-Past-Present-Future-MP3-Download/10891348.html

but y'all be wanting the vinyl i'm sure

i started looking at that. you read my mind!

what i did find was they've reissued 10 twelve inches of classic todd on the back of it. walked to the till with 6 of them that i'd found, but the artwork was so repellant, and they were hideously expensive and literally stopped at the last minute.

the orginals are so bloody cheap y'see. dived into the m&v on saturday- went straight to the todd bin and picked out originals of 'alright alright' AND 'the mexican'. only set me back a tenner!

mms
10-06-2007, 07:31 PM
i started looking at that. you read my mind!

what i did find was they've reissued 10 twelve inches of classic todd on the back of it. walked to the till with 6 of them that i'd found, but the artwork was so repellant, and they were hideously expensive and literally stopped at the last minute.

the orginals are so bloody cheap y'see. dived into the m&v on saturday- went straight to the todd bin and picked out originals of 'alright alright' AND 'the mexican'. only set me back a tenner!

he's just got to be so unfashionable now that guy, it just sounds so magnificently dated that music, kind of so dated that sound quality wise it would sound almost laughable if you told someone it was ever cutting edge once, but with so many ideas and just a kind of seminal mix of latino sounds, uk house and techno , hip hop and funk it sounds like a kind of missed future compared to the way that dance music is now, rhythmically and culturally and of course production wise, those records are more kind of cultural mish mashes than hip hop ever was.

Edward
10-06-2007, 07:40 PM
so dated that sound quality wise it would sound almost laughable if you told someone it was ever cutting edge once

Do you really think so?

I would agree if you were talking about Bonesbreaks, How & Little, Musto & Simonelli etc etc (other NYC contempraries) but I really think TT's productions stand up even today.

Yes they sound old, before music started having loads of sub-bass, but really bright and crunchy drums, good production IMO.

Nick Gutterbreakz
10-06-2007, 08:38 PM
I thought "todd is god" referred to todd edwards

I always thought it referred to Todd Rundgren!!

I can't think of anything much to add here, although I've got a hip-house collaboration with T La Rock on Fresh Records (lovely generic sleeve design) from '89 that's a lot of fun.

http://www.discogs.com/release/41782

mms
10-06-2007, 08:51 PM
Do you really think so?

I would agree if you were talking about Bonesbreaks, How & Little, Musto & Simonelli etc etc (other NYC contempraries) but I really think TT's productions stand up even today.

Yes they sound old, before music started having loads of sub-bass, but really bright and crunchy drums, good production IMO.

hmm yes i think they are good but it's also the limitations of the equipment, he's clearly an amazing arranger, all those tiny sample snippets, those drum breaks, which is i guess one of the reasons that style didn't really continue, but they do sound kind kind of unslick, I guess at the moment i'm kind of obsessed with how dance has kind of got stuck around a 4 4 so easily over it's history, it seems to have almost totally come back to it, even though it evidently starts out being almost obsessed with creating crazy more flashy rhythmic experiences.

mms
10-06-2007, 09:00 PM
I always thought it referred to Todd Rundgren!!

I can't think of anything much to add here, although I've got a hip-house collaboration with T La Rock on Fresh Records (lovely generic sleeve design) from '89 that's a lot of fun.

http://www.discogs.com/release/41782



'flow with the rhythm' is another one he did, with todd, it's brilliant, great record, tough as old boots.

the brilliant record by t la is that omar santana mix of breakin bells, omar santana was one of the editing kings along with mantronix and the latin rascals, weirdly now he makes gabba.

Noah Baby Food
10-06-2007, 09:52 PM
Todd Terry is a one-off, one of the most influential producers ever. I love Todd. As mentioned, the Royal House album is sooo damn funky. All his Unreleased Project EPs were great.

Dredstock - "Pump" (as I mentioned on another thread) is a banger. Black Riot 'A Day In The Life' - first person to use that siren stab.

Only playing his own productions when DJing, class arrogance.

Using exactly the same backing track for two different remixes - wish I could remember the details, but that was very controversial I seem to remember. Could one of them been a Bizarre Inc tune?

Youngbloods - 'Got Me Burning Up', Strictly Rhythm 1991. A tearing record, that dubby echo on the vocal sample and the big dischordant stab. Rave ammunition.

The habit of remixing ANYONE for some coin and just banging that shuffly Todd beat under it.

Good hip hop too, AV8 kinda block party style stuff - remember "To The Hip" by Bootman?

(re: Omar Santana making gabba now - it's also pretty crazy that Lenny Dee went down that road when you think of Fallout - "The Morning After" and all that early stuff)

crackerjack
10-06-2007, 09:54 PM
Only playing his own productions when DJing, class arrogance.

He must be the only club DJ in history to accurately fill on those prs forms.

lissajou
10-06-2007, 11:34 PM
go ahead, treat yrself:

Todd Terry - Keep On Jumpin'
Todd Terry - Just Make That Move (Part Two)
Kym Mazelle - A Place In My Heart (Tee's Freeze Mix)
Definition Of Sound - Pass The Vibes (Underground Mixes)
Todd Terry Presents Dream Team (3) - Love Is What We Need
Todd Terry - Sax EP
Todd Terry - The Countdown
Todd Terry - Sound Design Part 2
Todd Terry Project, The - Put Your Hands Together
Todd Terry - The Unreleased Project Part 3
Total Ka-Os - My Love / Get On Up
Todd Terry Project, The - The Circus / Weekend
Todd Terry Project, The - Bango (To The Batmobile) / Back To The Beat
28th Street Crew, The - I Need A Rhythm
Hardhouse - Check This Out
No Face (2) - Hump Music
Royal House - Can You Party ?
Royal House - Yeah Buddy / The Chase
Static (3) - Dream It
Various - Fingertrips Vol. 1

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=UMH4T0CA

MATT MAson
12-06-2007, 02:10 AM
For proof that turds can be polished very well indeed in you try hard enough, see Todd Terry's remix of 'Havana' by Kenny G. Both the original and dub mixes were monster monster UK garage tunes back in the day.

Oh, and Lissajou, that mix is great.

Blip
13-06-2007, 09:27 AM
I searched for Check This Out for many many years, absolutely brilliant. Trademarked Todd snares.
And you will say that Weekend is cheesy but I don't care, that's just beautiful.

DJL
13-06-2007, 10:41 AM
go ahead, treat yrself:

Todd Terry - Keep On Jumpin'
Todd Terry - Just Make That Move (Part Two)
Kym Mazelle - A Place In My Heart (Tee's Freeze Mix)
Definition Of Sound - Pass The Vibes (Underground Mixes)
Todd Terry Presents Dream Team (3) - Love Is What We Need
Todd Terry - Sax EP
Todd Terry - The Countdown
Todd Terry - Sound Design Part 2
Todd Terry Project, The - Put Your Hands Together
Todd Terry - The Unreleased Project Part 3
Total Ka-Os - My Love / Get On Up
Todd Terry Project, The - The Circus / Weekend
Todd Terry Project, The - Bango (To The Batmobile) / Back To The Beat
28th Street Crew, The - I Need A Rhythm
Hardhouse - Check This Out
No Face (2) - Hump Music
Royal House - Can You Party ?
Royal House - Yeah Buddy / The Chase
Static (3) - Dream It
Various - Fingertrips Vol. 1

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=UMH4T0CA

Top mix! Thankyou :)

Noah Baby Food
13-06-2007, 03:47 PM
I searched for Check This Out for many many years, absolutely brilliant. Trademarked Todd snares.
And you will say that Weekend is cheesy but I don't care, that's just beautiful.

'Weekend' is amazing! One of my favourite garage tunes ever, proper belting diva stuff which you'd have to have a heart of stone to not be moved by. Up there with "The Pressure" by Sounds of Blackness or "Workout" by Frankie Knuckles. Any of those three records could make me weep like a wee girl.

DigitalDjigit
13-06-2007, 07:46 PM
Royal House's Can You Party I think (later half-inched by Technotronic on Pump Up The Jam;

Isn't "Can You Party" itself a rip off of Marshal Jefferson's "House Music Anthem"?

dHarry
13-06-2007, 11:10 PM
'Weekend' is amazing! One of my favourite garage tunes ever, proper belting diva stuff which you'd have to have a heart of stone to not be moved by. Up there with "The Pressure" by Sounds of Blackness or "Workout" by Frankie Knuckles. Any of those three records could make me weep like a wee girl.
Add to that Kariya's Let Me Love You For Tonight, which is on this Todd (& others)-packed extravaganza - http://www.discogs.com/release/570811

mistersloane
14-06-2007, 06:09 PM
'flow with the rhythm' is another one he did, with todd, it's brilliant, great record, tough as old boots.



That's a tune, that one, the B-side mix if I remember right has a killer beat, dirt-tee-tee-tee!

Grievous Angel
14-06-2007, 06:44 PM
That mix is fire!

dominic
17-06-2007, 06:41 AM
Add to that Kariya's Let Me Love You For Tonight[/url]

kariya's "let me love you for tonight" is a true classic

as for todd terry productions, i like his underground mix of "watcher's point of view"

borderpolice
17-06-2007, 08:39 AM
as for todd terry productions, i like his underground mix of "watcher's point of view"

That's an ace remix (well, i have the "hardhouse remix, probably the same thing). took me 14 years to track down after i had heard it at soundshaft underneath charing cross station in the summer of 1992. Doesn't leave much of the original intact, good thing too!

Benny B
14-01-2013, 08:32 PM
Bump!

cos woebots new book has that wonderful todd terry breakout, and I think Jackin has some of Todd's spirit in it maybe.

datwun
14-01-2013, 09:45 PM
Bump!

cos woebots new book has that wonderful todd terry breakout, and I think Jackin has some of Todd's spirit in it maybe.

Do you know where I could find a good all Todd mix? You've piqued my interest and the one upthread's down..

Benny B
14-01-2013, 09:53 PM
no I want one one too. Someone help!

datwun
14-01-2013, 09:57 PM
http://www.mixcrate.com/djmam160/todd-terry-mix-pt-2-42579
for starters?

Benny B
14-01-2013, 10:02 PM
well that one starts with bango (to the batmobile) so thats a good sign!

datwun
14-01-2013, 10:04 PM
wow this is great it sounds just like hardcore :D

or hardcore sounds just like this? :S

wise
15-01-2013, 04:51 AM
from the man himself

http://www.fac51thehacienda.com/mixes/todd-terry/todd-terry-trilogy-mix-%E2%80%93-ha%C3%A7ienda-30-london

wise
15-01-2013, 04:57 AM
Todd invented hardcore and the Basement Jaxx, he arranged Jungle Brothers - I'll House You sampled in numerous classic hardcore tunes and even released a D&B album in 1999.
I'm sure in interviews at that time he laid claim to pretty much inventing the nuum.

wise
15-01-2013, 05:02 AM
"The "Todd Terry Drums" are one of the most recognizable and most sampled drum loops in the history of House Music. What was the first song to use them? How do you feel about everyone sampling them?
The first of those patterns was "A Day In The Life." It was already a Housey pattern, and then I used it on "Party People". I didn't write it myself - I stole the pattern from some Chicago guys. I stole it from people and then people stole it from me - nothing I can say about that!"


the true spirit of rave in a nutshell :D

wise
15-01-2013, 05:23 AM
Todd Terry live from Back 2 Basics downloadable

https://soundcloud.com/mixmag-1/todd-terry-live-from-back-2

Sectionfive
15-01-2013, 07:23 PM
Hardest drums. HipHop all over them

Benny B
09-01-2016, 01:29 PM
Bump! (again) woebots put a mix up

Benny B
09-01-2016, 02:05 PM
Fyi woebot, better not put a track list on mixcloud cos it gets blocked in America if you have 3 tracks from the same artist

trza
09-01-2016, 02:27 PM
I was thinking of going on a vacation later this month to see Todd terry in the Boiler Room event in Recife but I couldn't get my schedule to match up. I will probably go in March instead when everything is cheaper and the crowds are home but no "todd the god" dj set.

Leo
09-01-2016, 03:15 PM
"todd the god"

i thought that was edwards...or rundgren. ;)

Benny B
09-01-2016, 03:35 PM
i thought that was edwards...or rundgren. ;)

poll? who is the most godlike?

love how the two american house producers most relevant to the nuum are both called todd.

Leo
09-01-2016, 04:07 PM
poll? who is the most godlike?

love how the two american house producers most relevant to the nuum are both called todd.

terje? dockstader? sweeney?

CrowleyHead
09-01-2016, 09:52 PM
Terry shits on Edwards just for making a Freestyle album, no contest.

Woebot
09-01-2016, 10:38 PM
Fyi woebot, better not put a track list on mixcloud cos it gets blocked in America if you have 3 tracks from the same artist

good tip benny thanks. will leave as is.