JG Ballard "Cocaine Nights"

Woebot

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Just read this in three days flat and loved it.

Other Ballard I've read in the past: High Rise, The Crystal World I remember finding incredibly silly.

I think it was the toughness and efficiency of this that was so admirable. It's packed with ideas but at the end of the day it's (albeit arguably beautiful disguised as) an unpretentious airport/holiday potboiler.

Slightly improbable ending.
 

STN

sou'wester
I remember thinking that the turning point in High Rise was a bit unconvincing, I did read it many years ago so I may have been naive to form this opinion - I've always meant to reread it for this reason. It's a great book in every other way and kind of reminds me of 'Memoirs of a Survivor' by Doris Lessing, which is one of those books that bored me a bit while I was reading it but had a much more profound effect on me once I'd finished it. I quite agree about The Crystak World.

I haven't read Cocaine Nights, I picked up a copy in a bookshop the other day and was ambling to the till when my other half ambushed me and made me buy something else (which was also very good). I'm going on a long flight soon and will ensure I have a copy to hand. I think it's been (loosely) compared to Theroux's The O-Zone more than once, which I adored when I first read it but can't imagine liking now.

My personal favourite Ballard shorts are The Drowned Giant and The Enormous Space (of which there was a good BBC adaptation called 'Home').
 

crackerjack

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Ccocaine Nights is a cracking book and I'd recommend its successor Super-Cannes too.

Ballard's last four books have all been very similar - superficially 'perfect' societies masking a deep disfunctionality - and I think have deteriorated as they've gone along. Cannes is great, but goes off a bit towards the end when it becomes more like a regular thriller. Millennium People (similar themes again) is a bit daft and by the time the last one came out I'd kinda lost interest.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
I strongly disliked Cocaine Nights - so much so that it put me off reading anything else by him. A prejudice I'm sure that I will get over at some stage.
My problem with Cocaine Nights was that I just didn't believe it, I didn't buy in to the idea about violence being necessary for society to function - and as the book is purely an exercise in getting that idea across I found it totally empty.
 

swears

preppy-kei
I still think his 60s stuff is the best. I just finished The Drowned World for the second time, it's one of those classic sci-fi books that completely takes you over with its atmosphere. The later books like Cocaine Nights and Super-Cannes are still better than most of the drek out there, though.
 

jonny mugwump

exotic pylon
60's and 70's just incredible- they all read like surrealist paintings rather than novels and, like burroughs, i feel he has had more of an influence on music than anything else- i'm not blown away by the recent stuff as i dislike the hints of morality but agreed, still better than averything else knocking around...
 

crackerjack

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I didn't buy in to the idea about violence being necessary for society to function

I didn't think it was specifically violence so much as criminality and fear, the friction that er, oils the wheels (if you'll permit me to mangle the laws of physics) of creativity.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
Sure, I was using violence as a generic term intended to include everything that occurs: criminality, pornography etc. The point is that (to me at least) it all seemed so forced and contrived, you could feel the hand of the author on the characters at every step, they just seemd to be being moved around purely to demonstrate an idea. Which is not something I enjoy at the best of times but when I can't believe in the idea itself it seems doubly pointless.
I remember I read the book at about the same time that Fight Club came out in the cinema and I thought that in some ways they were very similar. They both asked you to accept a peculiar idea (in Fight Club the idea that men will somehow feel a great release if they start fighting each other) and in each case I found that idea very difficult to believe in and that spoiled my enjoyment of the whole thing.
 

crackerjack

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I still think his 60s stuff is the best. I just finished The Drowned World for the second time, it's one of those classic sci-fi books that completely takes you over with its atmosphere. The later books like Cocaine Nights and Super-Cannes are still better than most of the drek out there, though.

I've never read the old stuff. Other than Drowned World, what woould you recommend?
 

swears

preppy-kei
"I remember I read the book at about the same time that Fight Club came out in the cinema and I thought that in some ways they were very similar. They both asked you to accept a peculiar idea (in Fight Club the idea that men will somehow feel a great release if they start fighting each other) and in each case I found that idea very difficult to believe in and that spoiled my enjoyment of the whole thing."

I think Fight Club is misread, though. After the initial rush of violence as a way of rebelling against his bland life, the protagonist finds his new existence as conformist and frustrating as his office worker/consumerist phase. So I guess Chuck Palahniuk and maybe David Fincher were getting at something a bit more satirical or even nihilistic than saying that violence for men is "natural" or redemptive.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
"I think Fight Club is misread, though. After the initial rush of violence as a way of rebelling against his bland life, the protagonist finds his new existence as conformist and frustrating as his office worker/consumerist phase."
Yes, that is true. But in CN is Ballard seriously advocating violence, I think he's saying it's a kind of stimulus for something so I think that the analogy to FC does hold. I also read Choke by Palahniuk which similarly rested on a strange (and to me unnaceptable) premise - that if you pretend you're dying and someone saves you, the saviour will somehow feel responsible for you and give you money forever. Again, this may be used as a jumping-off point for other ideas in the same was as in Fight Club, but, because I couldn't believe in this jumping-off point, the whole book seemed forced to me.
 

jonny mugwump

exotic pylon
I've never read the old stuff. Other than Drowned World, what woould you recommend?

Well, there's the aforementioned Crystal World (Woebot's silly one) and The Drought and some incredible short story collections which are now compiled as the Complete Short Stories and this contains some really fantastic work...

Of the 70's stuff - Atrocity Exhibition has to be read (by far his most 'difficult' if you like due to its totally fractured non-narrative), Crash and Hi-Rise (sorry, this is turning into a bibliography).

A must-read is Baudrillard's essay on Crash in Simulacrum and Simulacra which almost posits itself against the Ballards own later cautionary introduction.

He has been such an incredibly writer to read though- a few years ago i reread as much as i could in a really short period of time thus canceling the requirement to take drugs ever again :cool:
 

jonny mugwump

exotic pylon
oh, and i meant ot say for those that don't know of it- http://www.ballardian.comis about the most ludicrously brilliant reference sourse for information and as some particularly brilliant interviews with various artist, theorists etc etc who have all been influenced by him.
 

Woebot

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the link which i somehow managed to delete is http://www.ballardian.com - many apologies.

i've always been tempted by the re:search book on him too.

@IdleRich: i dont know if i find the "crime=quickens the pulse" equation stupid at all. in my experience (not first hand i hasten to add) that's the one thing that "normal" society doesn't tell you- that crime is a hell of a lot of fun for the people perpertrating it. that that's one of the key reasons why people do it.

it's like how they never told you drugs made you feel fantastic!

as for "the authors hand" i know what you mean but it really applies much more to other ballard books ive read which feel like he's built sets and staffed them with his actors.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
"@idlerich: i dont know if i find the "crime=quickens the pulse" equation stupid at all."
It's not that I find that idea as you state it stupid in itself, I just think he greatly overestimates how important such thrills are to society. In fact it's more that he's not allowing any other type of thrill by his insistence on the fundamental nature of thrills from crime. The ending (and beginning in fact) seemed particularly silly where (if I remember correctly) someone basically sacrifices themselves to this insistence.
 

D84

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It's not that I find that idea as you state it stupid in itself, I just think he greatly overestimates how important such thrills are to society. In fact it's more that he's not allowing any other type of thrill by his insistence on the fundamental nature of thrills from crime. The ending (and beginning in fact) seemed particularly silly where (if I remember correctly) someone basically sacrifices themselves to this insistence.

I'm not sure that's it either.

Ballard is hugely influenced by the surrealist and dadaism - the iconoclastic (whatever shatters icons or preconceived ideals etc) and I think Cocaine Nights reflects this.

I read it as saying basically this society sucks. Look around: its elite gather all the resources and do what with it? They create these dull lifeless leisure zones to which they retire and whence all "life" is drained (like his favourite swimming pools); and they are parasitic on the indigenous Spanish population for that sense of "life" (I think this is developed more fully in Super Cannes iirc). Solution: let's fuck shit up.

Another theme is that life is too short to live in this prepackaged hell.

It's been a while since I've read it so I could be wrong.

Super Cannes is a companion piece obviously and to my mind it explores more how our elites are actually violent bastards preying on the rest of the world, in that case the peons of Cannes - and each other (but nb. see previous paragraph).

In that sense perhaps it's a continuation of his main concerns as outlined in his introduction to Crash:

eg.
Increasingly, our concepts of past, present and future are being forced to revise themselves. Just as the past, in social and psychological terms, became a casualty of Hiroshima and the nuclear age, so in its turn the future is ceasing to exist, devoured by the all-voracious present. We have annexed the future into the present, as merely one of those manifold alternatives open to us. Options multiply around us, and we live in an almost infantile world where any demand, any possibility, whether for life-styles, travel, sexual roles and identities, can be satisfied instantly.

In addition, I feel that the balance between fiction and reality has changed significantly in the past decades. Increasingly their roles are reversed. We live in a world ruled by fictions of every kind — mass-merchandizing, advertising, politics conducted as a branch of advertising, the pre-empting of any original response to experience by the television screen. We live inside an enormous novel. For the writer in particular it is less and less necessary to invent the fictional content of his novel. The fiction is already there. The writer’s task is to invent the reality

...

Throughout Crash I have used the car not only as a sexual image, but as a total metaphor for man’s life in today’s society. As such the novel has a political role quite apart from its sexual content, but I would still like to think that Crash is the first pornographic novel based on technology. In a sense, pornography is the most political form of fiction, dealing with how we use and exploit each other, in the most urgent and ruthless way.

Needless to say, the ultimate role of Crash is cautionary, a warning against that brutal, erotic and overlit realm that beckons more and more persuasively to us from the margins of the technological landscape.

I'll have to look for that Baudrillard essay though...
 
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baboon2004

Darned cockwombles.
Sure, I was using violence as a generic term intended to include everything that occurs: criminality, pornography etc. The point is that (to me at least) it all seemed so forced and contrived, you could feel the hand of the author on the characters at every step, they just seemd to be being moved around purely to demonstrate an idea. Which is not something I enjoy at the best of times but when I can't believe in the idea itself it seems doubly pointless.
I remember I read the book at about the same time that Fight Club came out in the cinema and I thought that in some ways they were very similar. They both asked you to accept a peculiar idea (in Fight Club the idea that men will somehow feel a great release if they start fighting each other) and in each case I found that idea very difficult to believe in and that spoiled my enjoyment of the whole thing.

I agree completely with this, regarding both Ballard and Fight Club. Both seem to be postulating a Big Idea, which takes precedence over every other element of the writing, making it seem pretty lifeless.

The problem, I think, regardless of whether you believe in their veracity or not, is that neither idea is half as profound as it seems to think it is. There seems to be such a tradition of accepting 'big ideas' presented in a certain (supposedly edgy?) way as profound, regardless of their actual content, and this is what makes me cynical about a lot of literature (I'm assuming here that the message in the Fight Club film is congruent to the one in the book). Emperor's New Clothes, I believe they call it.
 

baboon2004

Darned cockwombles.
Regarding your interpretation, D84 - these could be ideas of some interest, true. But why does Ballard trot out a 250-page (?) novel to 'explore' this idea, when the ideas involved could seemingly be covered in a six-page essay far more usefully? I think far too many people conflate literature with Having To Make A Statement.
 
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