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nomadologist
25-10-2007, 12:36 AM
Pursuant to our discussion of the BwO, for those who are interested, I found the reference:
the drugged body is the EMPTY BwO (bold emphasis mine):


The three-body problem. Artaud said that outside the "plane" is another plane surrounding us with "an unilluminated extension or a menace, as the case may be." It is a struggle and as such is never sufficiently clear. "How can we fabricate a BwO for ourselves without its being the cancerous BwO of a fascist inside us, or the empty BwO of a drug addict, paranoiac, or hypochondriac? How can we tell the three Bodies apart? Artaud was constantly grappling with this problem. The extraordinary composition of To Be Done with the Judgment of God: he begins by cursing the cancerous body of America, the body of war and money; he denounces the strata, which he calls "caca"; to the strata he opposes the true Plane, even if it is only peyote, the little trickle of the Tarahumaras; but he also knows about the dangers of a too-sudden, careless destratification. Artaud was constantly grappling with all of that, and flowed with it. Letter to Hitler. "Dear Sir, In 1932 in the Ider Cafe in Berlin, on one of the evening when I made your acquaintance and shortly before you took power, I showed you roadblocks on a map that was not just a map of geography, roadblocks against me, an act of force aimed in a certain number of directions you indicated to me. Today Hitler I lift the road*blocks I set down! The Parisians need gas. Yours, A.A.—P.S. Be it under*stood, dear sir, that this is hardly an invitation, it is above all a warning."22 That map that is not only a map of geography is something like a BwO intensity map, where the roadblocks designate thresholds and the gas, waves or flows. Even if Artaud did not succeed for himself, it is certain that through him something has succeeded for us all.


And another good part:


Could what the drug user or masochist obtains also be obtained in a different fashion in the conditions of the plane, so it would even be possible to use drugs without using drugs, to get soused on pure water, as in Henry Miller's experimentations? Or is it a question of a real passage of substances, an intensive continuum of all the BwO's? Doubtless, anything is possible. All we are saying is that the iden­tity of effects, the continuity of genera, the totality of all BwO's, can be obtained on the plane of consistency only by means of an abstract machine capable of covering and even creating it, by assemblages capable of plug­ging into desire, of effectively taking charge of desires, of assuring their continuous connections and transversal tie-ins. Otherwise, the BwO's of the plane will remain separated by genus, marginalized, reduced to means of bordering, while on the "other plane" the emptied or cancerous doubles will triumph.

read the rest here:
http://www.generation-online.org/p/fpdeleuze2.htm

nomadologist
25-10-2007, 12:45 AM
Maybe the best part:


Why such a dreary parade of sucked-dry, catatonicized, vitrified, sewn-up bodies, when the BwO is also full of gaiety, ecstasy, and dance? So why these examples, why must we start there? Emptied bodies instead full ones. What happened? Were you cautious enough? Not wisdom, cap*tion. In doses. As a rule immanent to experimentation: injections of caution. Many have been defeated in this battle. Is it really so sad and dangerous to be fed up with seeing with your eyes, breathing with your lungs, swallowing with your mouth, talking with your tongue, thinking with your brain, having an anus and larynx, head and legs? Why not walk on your head, sing with your sinuses, see through your skin, breathe with your belly: the simple Thing, the Entity, the full Body, the stationary Voyage, Anorexia, cutaneous Vision, Yoga, Krishna, Love, Experimentation. Where psychoanalysis says, "Stop, find your self again," we should say instead, "Let's go further still, we haven't found our BwO yet, we haven't sufficiently dismantled our self." Substitute forgetting for anamnesis, experimentation for interpretation. Find your body without organs. Find out how to make it. It's a question of life and death, youth and old age, sad*ness and joy. It is where everything is played out.

nomadologist
25-10-2007, 12:53 AM
one more:


Drug users, masochists, schizophrenics, loversó all BwO's pay homage to Spinoza. The BwO is the field of immanence of desire, the plane of consistency specific to desire (with desire defined as a process of production without reference to any exterior agency, whether it be a lack that hollows it out or a pleasure that fills it).

mistersloane
26-10-2007, 03:28 PM
With reference "The Dogon Egg", see also the now discredited Robert Temple, which has always been my favourite myth and one I think about alot when in Africa

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Temple

hundredmillionlifetimes
26-10-2007, 05:23 PM
Nomad, just in case you haven't already seen this, from 3 years ago (Dissensus, BTW, had its origins here): BWO and Spinoza, becoming-intense, becoming inhuman, becoming super-immanent, the flatline (http://k-punk.abstractdynamics.org/archives/003875.html)[and with numerous amusing comments] ...

nomadologist
26-10-2007, 06:33 PM
Thanks and thanks! Never read either...k-punk's piece is very elegant, and i think he's right.

nomadologist
26-10-2007, 08:55 PM
I think the best quote from those comments is:

"Be careful
what
you
wish
for!!"