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slackk
06-08-2008, 04:39 PM
I don't really know what I'm asking for here, but I've got a real urge to listen to just a load of minor chord piano. I however, have none, or any idea where to start.

"Classical" I guess, but more abstract modern stuff as well.

Any recommendations/am I even making sense?

Corpsey
06-08-2008, 04:43 PM
like this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KU-5u2dmXdM&feature=related

Slothrop
06-08-2008, 05:25 PM
Rachmaninov Preludes

Chopin, erm, everything

Beethoven Sonatas (and don't look down your nose at the famous ones just because they're famous)

Bach 48 Preludes and Fugues

And not actually solo, but the Beethoven Piano Concerto no 4 is fantastic - the first movement has a surprisingly modern subtlety to it, the second is deep and then the third just breaks out the full on classical bouncy twiddly joy.

Generally don't be afraid to go into specialist classical shops and ask them for advice as well, particularly if there's a piece you like and you're baffled by the array of recordings of it. They'll normally have a massive classical recordings guide, a few personal opinions, and if you're lucky and it's a quiet afternoon you might end up spending half an hour or so comparing the relative merits of half a dozen different versions on the shop stereo...

3 Body No Problem
06-08-2008, 05:45 PM
If you like stuff that you can't whistle, even after repeated listening, I recommend Schoenberg's piano pieces. They opened classical music for me! Some nice Berg:

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woops
06-08-2008, 05:58 PM
rachmaninov definitely.

seems like the best pianists were russian, sviatoslav richter

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i like this video of georges cziffra warming up for a tv spot. he's hungarian though.

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for more 20th century stuff try debussy i suppose. pre modern (post) impressionism

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then it goes modernism, its not really minor chords at all any more by this point though.

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3 Body No Problem
06-08-2008, 06:22 PM
If it doesn't have to be classical, why not try some Cecil Taylor (http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=cecil+taylor&search_type=)?

noel emits
06-08-2008, 07:45 PM
Charlemagne Palestine's - Strumming Music.

Amazing mimimal tranced out shit.

This clip doesn't help you get an idea at all:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfun7RbEnRo

Dunninger
06-08-2008, 08:03 PM
Get some Erik Satie :D

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zhao
06-08-2008, 08:09 PM
the man asked for MINOR KEYS people. some of the recommendations, while lovely, do not fit the request.

what you are looking for is THE WELL TUNED PIANO.

and look the price is just right:

http://www.amazon.com/LaMonte-Young-Well-Tuned-Piano-NYC/dp/B000009HZ9

(if you can't find download PM me)

also:

Toru Takemitsu : The Complete Solo Piano Music

tons of solo piano by Morton Feldman - if you like it melancholic and sssssllllloooooowwwwwww... the one to start is "For Bunita Marcus". it is amazing.

Harold Budd's last or before last record is solo piano, and gorgeous.

and this is a very enjoyable record, played by Herbert Henck:

Hans Otte - Das Buch der Klange

http://images.bol.de/images-adb/47/7c/477cff4f-2db1-4bac-9dde-8acf49395b6d.jpg



on jazz tip does Mal Waldron have many solo albums? don't remember... there must be quite a few.

does Misha Mengelberg have many or any solo outings? i'm not sure...

John Tilbury has some pretty amazing solo records out but *may* be slightly "difficult" for non initiates

can't recommend Cecil Taylor because i don't get that stuff at ALL.

zhao
06-08-2008, 08:51 PM
and if you were to ask for solo clarinet i would recommend this with out any hessitation:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41C36ETQR3L._SS500_.jpg

noel emits
06-08-2008, 08:59 PM
There's this really beautiful Popol Vuh piece called Spirit Of Peace that can be found on the end of the original 1992 reissue of In Den Garten Pharoas. It's just piano. I don't think it's the same as the album called Spirit Of Peace but I'm not sure.

subvert47
06-08-2008, 09:06 PM
I don't really know what I'm asking for here, but I've got a real urge to listen to just a load of minor chord piano. I however, have none, or any idea where to start.

"Classical" I guess, but more abstract modern stuff as well.

Any recommendations/am I even making sense?

try these:

Chopin - Preludes / Nocturnes
Brahms - Intermezzi
Satie - Pieces Froides / Gnossiennes
Scriabin - Sonata No.9 (Black Mass)

:)

Slothrop
06-08-2008, 09:25 PM
the man asked for MINOR KEYS people. some of the recommendations, while lovely, do not fit the request.

what you are looking for is THE WELL TUNED PIANO.

and look the price is just right:

http://www.amazon.com/LaMonte-Young-Well-Tuned-Piano-NYC/dp/B000009HZ9

If we're talking Young, do the Piano Pieces for David Tudor count as well?

zhao
06-08-2008, 09:33 PM
If we're talking Young, do the Piano Pieces for David Tudor count as well?

i don't know these??? more info please.

Slothrop
06-08-2008, 09:40 PM
i don't know these??? more info please.
Not an entirely serious suggestion - the score for the first one reads:
"Bring a bale of hay and a bucket of water onto the stage for the piano to eat and drink. The performer may then feed the piano or leave it to eat by itself. If the former, the piece is over after the piano has been fed. If the latter, it is over after the piano eats or decides not to."

Martin Dust
06-08-2008, 10:01 PM
Get some Erik Satie :D

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Good call

zhao
06-08-2008, 10:23 PM
Not an entirely serious suggestion - the score for the first one reads:
"Bring a bale of hay and a bucket of water onto the stage for the piano to eat and drink. The performer may then feed the piano or leave it to eat by itself. If the former, the piece is over after the piano has been fed. If the latter, it is over after the piano eats or decides not to."

that SOUNDS great but can i get buck to it?!?!

also, might be a good idea to follow players rather than composers because some of the best ones choose very carefully what they play, and i've discovered a lot of music by paying attention to what they include in the repertoire. like the afore mentioned Henck and also people like Aki Takahashi.

zhao
06-08-2008, 11:59 PM
For Bunita Marcus is so good i just listened to all 3 recordings i have of it back to back. that's 220 minutes of solo piano and i was sad when it was over.

slackk
07-08-2008, 09:23 AM
wow, thanks a lot. hmv is me.

zhao
07-08-2008, 09:46 AM
hey look what do you know, links for the $1000+ box set are still alive:

http://differentwaters.blogspot.com/2007/10/tune-that-piano.html

zhao
07-08-2008, 09:49 AM
wow, thanks a lot. hmv is me.

what is this "hmv" you speak of?

and i recommend this item:

http://static.boomkat.com/images/64391/333.jpg

Domenico De Clario, a visual artist currently living in Australia, was involved in a project called "the quiet in the land: everyday life, contemporary art and the shakers". where he lived in a Shaker village in Maine, by a lake, for a month, and while blindfolded, painted, wrote poems and played piano every day he was there. Apparently Burnt Friedman heard some of these recordings in a car and decided to release it (thank god someone did). another totally random find, what drew me to this CD was first the photography on the cover (funny it's of NYC and not the Shaker village though), and second the packaging looked like a Non-Place release.

knowing nothing about Domenico's other work, the music on this CD is of a very rare quality judged on its own merits. forever autumn, eternal dusk... the artist becomes a medium and these solo piano improvisations recorded at sunset gradually dissipate and dissolve with patient grace, like sunlight slowly dissapearing over the horizon. supposedly with no formal training what so ever, the playing is effortless, and the compositions feel like a direct sonic translation of a meditative inward journey.

an excerpt from text on the sleeve:


"... perceive architecture, city, continent or idea as a body,
dynamicised by its own internal energy-receiving and diffusing structure,
much like our bodies' energy-flows are regulated by the chakras. ...

in order to facilitate this proces I have sat blindfolded within each
body's centre from sunset to sunrise, through solstices, equinoxes,
equinoxes, eclipses and full-moons, all the while touoching the keys of a
piano. I believe that my own body and that of the piano might in this
context function as a receiver-transmitter, receiving/transmuting the
inaudible through my body and sub-sequently transmitting it as
keyboard-sound....

I sit blindfolded at the piano because it helps me to stay longer inside
each second; the paradox is that whilst so blindfolded I am able to "see"
more clearly than before, in this state the seeing becomes more important
than what ever can be seen, enabling one to reach deeper into the self
than any examination of form could ever acheive...

the resultant experience of "blind-listening" might remind us of the
paradox we encounter when, on being asked to describe the "inner" world,
we find it impossible to say what it is or how it is, nbut rather, on
looking at the evidence around us, all we can say is: "not-this".

I offer "not this" to you."

Amplesamples
07-08-2008, 08:58 PM
As a pianist, I can recommend the following:

Chopin Nocturnes and Mazurkas
Rachmaninov
Liszt
Schumann (particularly Fantasiestucke)
Bach - The Art of Fugue
Satie is cool too
Beethoven piano sonatas

jonny mugwump
07-08-2008, 09:32 PM
William Basinski has a quite a few albums of solo piano pieces that are looped and left to decay so there its not classical and there are elements of processing for want of a better word but they are truly truly beautiful and eerie.

Where to start: Pantelleria, Melancholia and The Garden of Brokenness

all ca be found here: http://www.mmlxii.com/music/music.html

Ach!
07-08-2008, 11:52 PM
I was having a rather emotional time a few years back, and I decided to make myself a CD full of moving, minor key piano pieces. 'Metamorphosis One' by Philip Glass (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QL8lQU_1a-w) was on there, as was Brian Eno and Harold Budd's 'Not Yet Remembered' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohY-7mm8kVw).
I'll find the tracklisting and post it, although I must warn you that it may turn you into a blubbering wreck by the fifth track.

Ach!
08-08-2008, 12:35 AM
01_ Aphex Twin - Avril 14th (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfYl6_f2Mdg)
02_ Ludovico Einaudi - Melodia Africana I (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Az0Z3RgvPyA)
03_ Brian Eno & Harold Budd - Steal Away (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7lwt8qRATI)
04_ Erik Satie - 1&#232;re Gymnop&#233;die (played by Jean-Yves Thibaudet) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eStrKU5Jnk)
05_ Aphex Twin - Nanou2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBC6oFgK3Kw)
06_ Brian Eno & Harold Budd - The Chill Air (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVlnbMNFLN4)
07_ Bill Evans - Piece Peace (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjM8G4VwAqY)
08_ Pat Metheny - In Her Family
09_ Vangelis - Memories of Green (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cg0cmhjdiLs)
10_ Brian Eno & Harold Budd - Not Yet Remembered (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVDsD5DGF_Y)
11_ Enya - A Day Without Rain (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bs8AXlTwhJ0)
12_ Wim Mertens - Close Cover (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPdVhjXHdfE)
13_ Craig Armstrong - Morning Breaks
14_ Michael Nyman - Big My Secret (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxJnzcNkiFo)
15_ Aphex Twin - Kesson Dalef (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDfktCwyeyA)
16_ Charles Mingus - Myself When I Am Real
17_ B&#233;la Bart&#243;k - Bagatelle No. 4 'Grave'
18_ Aphex Twin - Petiatil Cx Htdui (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZV_y7nFz0c)
19_ Philip Glass - Metamorphosis One (played by Bruce Brubaker) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QL8lQU_1a-w)
20_ Michael Andrews - Did You Know Him? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSu2fgHnrXQ&feature=related)
21_ Bill Evans - Epilogue
22_ Brian Eno - 1/1 from Ambient 1: Music for Airports (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PypklfMnhw)


The ones I can't find on youtube are very very good too.

ripley
09-08-2008, 02:03 AM
Solo Monk.

melancholy, simple, perfect.

zhao
09-08-2008, 02:09 AM
failed to mention earlier:

Paul Bley

one of, if not the all time, favorite jazz pianist.

Open, To Love - an amazing solo album.

was listening to Bley, Oxley, Peakcock - In the Evenings Out There - on the tube home tonight... sublime. transcendent. so real. so fragile and human... ok i'm officially drunk. good night.

muser
09-08-2008, 04:29 AM
id put forward Maurice El Medioni, turned on to me by dr aurathefts mix "cafe exile" of his stuff, theres one track i havnt been able to figure its name but it is but it puts shivers down my spine everytime. he plays a sort of mixture of jazz, latin/cuban, arabic, classical.

reeltoreel
11-08-2008, 04:19 AM
Chick Corea - Piano Improvisations Vol. 1 is good too...

A bit naff, I guess, but worth a listen or two...

petergunn
11-08-2008, 07:33 AM
has no one mentioned "pictures at an exhibtion" by mussoursky? i know the orchestrated version is more well known, but as a piano piece, it's brilliant...

straight
11-08-2008, 09:36 AM
Hans Otte's Das Buch der Klšnge (The Book of Sounds, 1979-82) is absolutely fanstastic and really doesnt get the respect he deserves. Contrasting pieces of slowly moving ambience and others of traditionally minimal arpeggios

Also, Gonzales solo piano album from a few years ago is pretty great, hadnt heard it in ages but it was on an ipod at a hostel in germany when i was there a few weeks ago

dominic
19-08-2008, 01:59 AM
soft verdict (wim mertins), struggle for pleasure -------------------->

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r93Oayq09Lk