IdleRich
IdleRich
Been pretty controversial in Germany apparently. Wonder if it will be any good.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0765432/plotsummary
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0765432/plotsummary
Baader-Meinhof Film
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well the legacy of baader and meinhof has been made cool a long time before now no? the leather jackets and rebel chic... if i'm not mistaken they've been counterculture icons for a long time? so maybe a Natural Born Killers type flick might not be too out of line? but the passionate conviction of Meinhof's writing should not be portrayed lightly... i love those somber Gerhardt Richter funeral paintings...
crackerjack
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Yeah, it didn't suck tip (that's a bad thing, right?), but nor was I as enthralled as I expected. Too much of it sounded like classroom debates rehashed as dialogue (a hard one to get round, admittedly).
yeah... but considering the premise and subject matter, i think delivering anything not entirely cringe worthy from beginning to end is an impressive feat.
mistersloane
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Piece in the Guardian about it, it looks good
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/sep/28/germany.terrorism
Though I'm more of a Patty Hearst man myself.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/sep/28/germany.terrorism
Though I'm more of a Patty Hearst man myself.
You're right, that would be nothing new, but this sexy rebel view on the RAF has never worked for me.
IdleRich
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Not seen it, heard cautious praise for it from friends who have.
Nope, me neither. I just don't understand any kind of admiration for people who kill innocent people no matter how handsome or well-dressed they are (not that they were that good looking from all the pictures I've ever seen). I mean I'm fairly interested in seeing the film but I hope (I think safely) that that desire is not a manifestation of some subconscious interest in their glamour. I guess though, I'm not exactly quite sure why it is I do want to see it, I'm sure I could learn more from one of the many books on the subject.
crackerjack
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How so? He's normally excellent. I suppose I should read it myself before starting an argument.
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weird i wrote a script about baader-meinhof two years ago. it never got beyond that stage 
i became interested because my dad was stationed in Germany in the early 70's and they were one of the terrorist groups he had to keep an eye on. my script involved a lot of zombies and weird pornography though. i'm not sure what happened. gudrun ensslin was an exotic dancer who made kind of soft core porn before she got with andreas baader. at any rate i pitched the idea to asia argento, who seemed minimally interested. the focus of the film was the mass suicide by members of the baader-meinhof gang in prison in Black October 1977.
i became interested because my dad was stationed in Germany in the early 70's and they were one of the terrorist groups he had to keep an eye on. my script involved a lot of zombies and weird pornography though. i'm not sure what happened. gudrun ensslin was an exotic dancer who made kind of soft core porn before she got with andreas baader. at any rate i pitched the idea to asia argento, who seemed minimally interested. the focus of the film was the mass suicide by members of the baader-meinhof gang in prison in Black October 1977.mistersloane
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Why did you think the article was shit though Oliver? The Baaders were always one of those things I think people thought I was gonna be into - like Godard and fisting - and thus I avoided them so I don't really know about factual accuracy.
To me it just read like a bog standard Observer dinner party type article. I get banned from dinner parties so I quite like reading how banal the conversations are. Was it any worse than anything else the Observer normally prints?
To me it just read like a bog standard Observer dinner party type article. I get banned from dinner parties so I quite like reading how banal the conversations are. Was it any worse than anything else the Observer normally prints?
crackerjack
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I can't see what the fuss is about either. Ascherson has written exactly the kind of article i'd expect from him. So why the beef, Vim & Ollie?
crackerjack
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You've avoided all three? Or only the Baaders?
haha until a second ago i totally thought "fisting" was some obscure cultural reference that i was not well read enough to know about
but speaking of Godard he would have made a decent B+M film no? with his way of simultaneously whimsical and serious.