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satanmcnugget
28-02-2005, 09:05 PM
just thought i'd share this in case anyone is looking for some reading material...a list of the best socialist SF compiled by China Mieville:

http://www.fantasticmetropolis.com/i/50socialist/1/


Via: http://www.livejournal.com/users/douglain/

fldsfslmn
01-03-2005, 07:39 AM
Holy crap, that's timely! For the past few days I've been totally obsessed with the literary potential of the post-apocalyptic (regular or zombie style apocalypse) novel/film, particularly the playing out of all the attendant political questions involved in "starting again." Unfortunately, I'm unable to access the link you posted at the moment.

Since discovering in my mid-teens that I'm hugely pretentious, I've found even the proximity of sci-fi novels quite repellant. But most of them are crap, aren't they? I hope I can access this link soon.

Melchior
01-03-2005, 08:42 AM
No, some are crap, but pleanty are amazing.

That's a great list. I'd like to read through all of them someday...

carlos
01-03-2005, 01:25 PM
i got a look at the list before the link went down- i've read a handful of those...

just to clarify though - the list is actually "Fifty Fantasy & Science Fiction Works That Socialists Should Read" - not the best socialist SF novels- which explains why The Fountainhead is on the list

i actually would like to see a list of socialist SF- specially some recent titles

jimet
01-03-2005, 03:59 PM
Ken McLeod is as good a place as any to start. His Fall Revolution quartet is stunningly good and is entirely built by setting up different societies and having them bump into each other. So The Star Fraction is about a balkanised UK following the collapse of a socialist republic, The Stone Canal traces the roots of that republic to a schism in the Glasgow University Socialist Group in 1974, The Cassini Division constructs an anarcho-socialist economy and has it erode and The Space Road blows them all up. They're the most entertaining SF novels of the '90s.

blissblogger
01-03-2005, 08:47 PM
in that list is The Space Merchants by Frederick Pohl and CM Kornbluth which is this savage, hilarious satire of corporate capitalism set in a future where advertizing has run rife , resources are depleted (jewelry's made of wood cos it's more precious than gold) and there's a subversive underground group called the Consies ( short for Conservationists - Greens under the bed spoofting the Red Scares of when the novel was written)

also Rollerball, while not a book (well i expect there was a spin off novel) is quite an acute satire of corporate capitalism as neo-medievalism

Backjob
02-03-2005, 12:37 AM
Hah! Yes, the Space Merchants is excellent, and extremely grotesquely funny - especially the bits involving the huge ever-growing chicken.

Another big omission is having any comics whatsoever e.g. Jodorowsky's "Incal"

carlos
02-03-2005, 01:30 AM
Fall Revolution quartet

sounds interesting. i'll have to check that out- thanks

Clubberlang
02-03-2005, 04:02 AM
He had a bunch, but def start with More Than Human and unfortunately titled The Cosmic Rape. I also second The Space Merchants which is just ridiculously well done.

adruu
02-03-2005, 02:20 PM
i guess bank's "use of weapons" was the inspiration for global communication's jungle alias, never knew that....